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Re: Russia's War Against Ukraine
« Reply #3345 on: August 10, 2022, 09:28:38 PM »
and I cant deny that theres a huge part of my cold war upbringing that just wants to get involved and fuck these people up once and for all.
this whole war could almost be described as amateur bullshit.  I watched video today of Uk troops inspecting another abandoned tank and they found that all the ERA blocks were either filled with rubber inserts or empty.
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Re: Russia's War Against Ukraine
« Reply #3346 on: August 11, 2022, 04:38:21 AM »
This is certainly a publicity win for the Ukrainians.  Do we know whether it had any material impact on the war, or just whether it's giving the Russians one more thing to worry about?

My understanding is that the Ukrainians were hoping to launch a counteroffensive in the direction of Kherson.  I gather not hearing much about that lately means either they haven't had much success or they haven't achieved anything worth bragging about?

  From what I've seen, the Ukrainians are systematically blowing up all military targets in the Kherson region.  The Ukrainian attacks are much more focused on actual military targets of value.  Unlike Russian attacks which seem to consist of throwing HE everywhere.  They are bragging about it, but it kind of goes under the radar since they are knocking out real targets (ammo dumps and railroads for example) pretty
routinely and at a relatively high rate.

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Re: Russia's War Against Ukraine
« Reply #3347 on: August 11, 2022, 05:22:15 AM »
^Goes along with the Russian aims of obliterating Ukraine altogether…both civilian and military targets. Ukraine started out by trying to hold the Russians, and now shifted to destroying Russian military targets. But I wonder how long we have until this turns into a war of vengeance on the Ukrainian side too.
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Re: Russia's War Against Ukraine
« Reply #3348 on: August 11, 2022, 06:49:47 AM »
everything on the bottom row was destroyed.
what limited footage from the ground post strike is from that area and everything is plastered.

Ah, good!   :clap: They must have cleared them off the line pronto in the damage-assessment shot.

I watched video today of Uk troops inspecting another abandoned tank and they found that all the ERA blocks were either filled with rubber inserts or empty.

Good lord! -- no wonder the reactive armor hasn't been helping them as much as expected!

Of course, even when the blocks are filled with charges, the quality could be crap. Or even if the quality is good, the wiring might be crap. Or non-existent. It's hard to find the end of the rabbit-hole of "pretending to work while pretending to be paid"...  :buck2:
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Re: Russia's War Against Ukraine
« Reply #3349 on: August 11, 2022, 06:52:37 AM »
From what I've seen, the Ukrainians are systematically blowing up all military targets in the Kherson region.  The Ukrainian attacks are much more focused on actual military targets of value.  Unlike Russian attacks which seem to consist of throwing HE everywhere.  They are bragging about it, but it kind of goes under the radar since they are knocking out real targets (ammo dumps and railroads for example) pretty routinely and at a relatively high rate.

I briefly saw an article yesterday snorfing at the Ukrainians for their Kherson drive supposedly stalling out of the gate, and I didn't have time to read it; but picking off the enemy forces "with an iron hand" beforehand is surely the way to prepare for a successful drive.
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Re: Russia's War Against Ukraine
« Reply #3350 on: August 11, 2022, 08:23:09 AM »
From what I've seen, the Ukrainians are systematically blowing up all military targets in the Kherson region.  The Ukrainian attacks are much more focused on actual military targets of value.  Unlike Russian attacks which seem to consist of throwing HE everywhere.  They are bragging about it, but it kind of goes under the radar since they are knocking out real targets (ammo dumps and railroads for example) pretty routinely and at a relatively high rate.

I briefly saw an article yesterday snorfing at the Ukrainians for their Kherson drive supposedly stalling out of the gate, and I didn't have time to read it; but picking off the enemy forces "with an iron hand" beforehand is surely the way to prepare for a successful drive.

  I guess it doesn't matter if they "stall" but obliterate the Russian forces in the area.  Why go there if their partizans can give info resulting in devastatingly precise targetting?  They can just wait
while they get more and more firepower and increase their dominance of the area while they can target the Russians precisely and the Russians have no idea what's going on.
Possibly this is a new mode of warfare: destroy the enemy with precision weapons and then see what happens.  Do the Russians keep feeding trucks in (since apparently the railroads in the
area aren't functional)?  Or what?

  Once the Russians are dominated in the area, the Ukrainians can explore other options -- but why should they attack if they are effectively wiping out Russia's forces?  Why give up the advantage
of having a foe who has staked himself out to be slaughtered?

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Re: Russia's War Against Ukraine
« Reply #3351 on: August 11, 2022, 08:41:17 AM »
there is a point where you have to attack while keeping in mind there are other areas of the front that are competing for the same resources.
theres also the pr aspect to it.
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Re: Russia's War Against Ukraine
« Reply #3352 on: August 11, 2022, 11:04:23 AM »
there is a point where you have to attack while keeping in mind there are other areas of the front that are competing for the same resources.
theres also the pr aspect to it.

  Yeah,but look at in terms of what choices the Russians have: they can keep reinforcing the Kherson area where adding extra forces just adds to the targets without giving any benefits
and also depletes their push in the Donbas or they can let the Kherson area go while sort of beating on the Donbas.  It's a lose-lose situation and the Ukrainians are stressing this by saying
the Crimea is their target so the Russians have an even worse situation in that they have no choice but to dribble forces into the Kherson area at some minimal rate
to protect the Crimea thus gaining themselves nothing
but steadily accellerating losses and less and less pressure on the Donbas.  The overall loss to the Ukrainians is losing ground in the Donbas, but Russian forces continue to spiral downward.

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Re: Russia's War Against Ukraine
« Reply #3353 on: August 11, 2022, 01:08:38 PM »
reports are now that the UkA disabled or damaged all four main bridges that used to supply Russian troops in Kherson.
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Re: Russia's War Against Ukraine
« Reply #3354 on: August 11, 2022, 02:07:12 PM »
reports are now that the UkA disabled or damaged all four main bridges that used to supply Russian troops in Kherson.

And I think we've seen the Ukraines show patience ... they'll starve them out.
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Re: Russia's War Against Ukraine
« Reply #3355 on: August 11, 2022, 02:08:53 PM »
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Re: Russia's War Against Ukraine
« Reply #3356 on: August 11, 2022, 02:23:15 PM »
it'd be easier if you knew if they meant 'whole and complete' airplane.
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Re: Russia's War Against Ukraine
« Reply #3357 on: August 11, 2022, 02:45:46 PM »
there is the 'none' option  <:-)
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Re: Russia's War Against Ukraine
« Reply #3358 on: August 11, 2022, 09:01:39 PM »
That some pretty funny dark humor.

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Re: Russia's War Against Ukraine
« Reply #3359 on: August 11, 2022, 09:15:50 PM »
have you met me?   :bd:
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