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Title: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Pete Dero on October 04, 2019, 12:33:16 PM
Coming to a PC near you :

https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/61153/Red-Dead-Redemption-2-Coming-to-PC-November-5th

Red Dead Redemption 2 for PC will also be available to pre-order at the Epic Games store, Greenman Gaming, the Humble Store, GameStop and additional digital retailers starting October 23rd with a pre-order bonus of 25 Gold Bars for Red Dead Online. Red Dead Redemption 2 for PC will also be available to purchase on Steam this December.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: al_infierno on October 04, 2019, 12:40:54 PM
Exciting news.  This game played like arse on PS4, so I hope they tighten the controls a LOT for the pc version.  The first RDR is one of my all time favorite games so it'd be an understatement to say I'm anticipating a PC release for the new game, with all the benefits that came with the GTAV pc release.

Did they ever make online worthwhile?  Or is it still a terrible grindfest with autoaim always on?
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: -budd- on October 04, 2019, 07:16:55 PM
I love westerns, played RDR on the PS3, man i hate controllers. Loved the game though. I probably won't pick it up for a long while, i just don't pay $60 for games, well that's not strictly true i payed $65 for WITE complete..........but come on man, thats WW2 :)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Destraex on October 04, 2019, 08:24:35 PM
The advertising I saw was very misleading. It said coming to PC on a certain date. But what it meant was pre-order available on a certain date. At least that is what a mate said. I have never played the games. I hear they are very good.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Grim.Reaper on October 04, 2019, 08:57:33 PM
This is becoming an expensive month for me:(  No doubt on my buy list...
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Grim.Reaper on October 09, 2019, 05:08:11 PM
Available for pre order now from Rockstar Game Launcher platform.......(2) free games come with it from their catalog.  Seems like two editions available, "special" which is $59.99 (regularly $79.99, seems like an upgrade of standard) and "ultimate" for which is $79.99 (regular $99.99).

Very little resistance for me, no doubt I will cave within the week....
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Grim.Reaper on October 09, 2019, 05:44:56 PM
Yowzer, these newer games are starting to test system requirements:)  This recommended is at 12GB of RAM, not as bad as Jedi at 32GB but some folks might struggle with that.

But more eye-catching is the 150GB storage needed!  I really hope the download is big time compressed, otherwise that is like 15+ hours on my crappy internet connection.

Minimum specifications:

OS: Windows 7 - Service Pack 1 (6.1.7601)
Processor: Intel Core i5-2500K / AMD FX-6300
Memory: 8GB
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 770 2GB / AMD Radeon R9 280 3GB HDD
Space: 150GB
Sound Card: DirectX compatible

Recommended specifications:

OS: Windows 10 - April 2018 Update (v1803)
Processor: Intel Core i7-4770K / AMD Ryzen 5 1500X
Memory: 12GB
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB / AMD Radeon RX 480 4GB HDD Space: 150GB
Sound Card: DirectX compatible
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: AchillesLastStand on October 09, 2019, 10:45:20 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on October 09, 2019, 05:44:56 PM
Yowzer, these newer games are starting to test system requirements:)  This recommended is at 12GB of RAM, not as bad as Jedi at 32GB but some folks might struggle with that.

But more eye-catching is the 150GB storage needed!  I really hope the download is big time compressed, otherwise that is like 15+ hours on my crappy internet connection.

Minimum specifications:

OS: Windows 7 - Service Pack 1 (6.1.7601)
Processor: Intel Core i5-2500K / AMD FX-6300
Memory: 8GB
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 770 2GB / AMD Radeon R9 280 3GB HDD
Space: 150GB
Sound Card: DirectX compatible

Recommended specifications:

OS: Windows 10 - April 2018 Update (v1803)
Processor: Intel Core i7-4770K / AMD Ryzen 5 1500X
Memory: 12GB
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB / AMD Radeon RX 480 4GB HDD Space: 150GB
Sound Card: DirectX compatible

Was just going to post these, the cpu/gpu and ram requirements are bad at all, 150 GB HDD space is pretty beastly though. I think the new Call of Duty is around 170 GB.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: SirAndrewD on October 09, 2019, 11:55:02 PM
Insane HDD requirement.  But yeah, I'm likely going to buy this game a second time.

Guess it's to Gamestop for a trade in of my PS4 version for chump change. 

I'm probably going to go all in and finally dig into the online portion.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Grim.Reaper on October 10, 2019, 04:09:40 AM
Quote from: AchillesLastStand on October 09, 2019, 10:45:20 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on October 09, 2019, 05:44:56 PM
Yowzer, these newer games are starting to test system requirements:)  This recommended is at 12GB of RAM, not as bad as Jedi at 32GB but some folks might struggle with that.

But more eye-catching is the 150GB storage needed!  I really hope the download is big time compressed, otherwise that is like 15+ hours on my crappy internet connection.

Minimum specifications:

OS: Windows 7 - Service Pack 1 (6.1.7601)
Processor: Intel Core i5-2500K / AMD FX-6300
Memory: 8GB
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 770 2GB / AMD Radeon R9 280 3GB HDD
Space: 150GB
Sound Card: DirectX compatible

Recommended specifications:

OS: Windows 10 - April 2018 Update (v1803)
Processor: Intel Core i7-4770K / AMD Ryzen 5 1500X
Memory: 12GB
Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB / AMD Radeon RX 480 4GB HDD Space: 150GB
Sound Card: DirectX compatible

Was just going to post these, the cpu/gpu and ram requirements are bad at all, 150 GB HDD space is pretty beastly though. I think the new Call of Duty is around 170 GB.

wow...i pre ordered the call of duty game as well, hopefully they open pre loads soon so i can finish downloading by the time october 25 release date comes:). glad i ended up buying  the 4tb ssd for the computer i bought last year:)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: JasonPratt on October 20, 2019, 02:44:08 PM
I just saw a PC release date of Nov 5th, on a commercial today.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: FlickJax on October 22, 2019, 07:13:49 AM
Will it support mouse and keyboard?
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: jamus34 on October 22, 2019, 08:01:28 AM
Quote from: SirAndrewD on October 09, 2019, 11:55:02 PM
Insane HDD requirement.  But yeah, I'm likely going to buy this game a second time.

Guess it's to Gamestop for a trade in of my PS4 version for chump change. 

I'm probably going to go all in and finally dig into the online portion.

Don't think that too far off from the ps4 requirements at this point, especially with all the patches.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: W8taminute on October 23, 2019, 02:30:58 PM
Quote from: -budd- on October 04, 2019, 07:16:55 PM
...well that's not strictly true i payed $65 for WITE complete..........but come on man, thats WW2 :)

I totally agree with your thinking on this!


I had RDR2 for PS4 and returned it for store credit after a few months.  My reason for trading the game in for store credit are as follows:

1. The main character is lifeless.  I just couldn't find a reason to like him they way I liked John Marston in the first game.
2. Sensory overload and I mean sensory overload.  There is a ton of side quests, mini-games, meta-games, and odds and ends to do that my old brain couldn't handle it.  I barely got through the first chapter of the story because there are just too many shiny objects that whiz by you causing you to lose focus.  I just don't have the patience anymore I'm afraid.
3. The overall story is kind of lame.  Doesn't really connect with the events that happened in the first game and for me that dog don't hunt.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Jarhead0331 on October 23, 2019, 02:40:10 PM
Quote from: W8taminute on October 23, 2019, 02:30:58 PM

2. Sensory overload and I mean sensory overload.  There is a ton of side quests, mini-games, meta-games, and odds and ends to do that my old brain couldn't handle it.  I barely got through the first chapter of the story because there are just too many shiny objects that whiz by you causing you to lose focus.  I just don't have the patience anymore I'm afraid.

This. This times 100! I barely made it out of the first chapter too and once I did, I never went back.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: SirAndrewD on October 23, 2019, 02:48:10 PM
Quote from: W8taminute on October 23, 2019, 02:30:58 PM

I had RDR2 for PS4 and returned it for store credit after a few months.  My reason for trading the game in for store credit are as follows:

1. The main character is lifeless.  I just couldn't find a reason to like him they way I liked John Marston in the first game.
2. Sensory overload and I mean sensory overload.  There is a ton of side quests, mini-games, meta-games, and odds and ends to do that my old brain couldn't handle it.  I barely got through the first chapter of the story because there are just too many shiny objects that whiz by you causing you to lose focus.  I just don't have the patience anymore I'm afraid.
3. The overall story is kind of lame.  Doesn't really connect with the events that happened in the first game and for me that dog don't hunt.

Yikes.  On points 1 and 2 I'm actually kind of shocked that you and I had such fundamentally different experiences. 

Did you get very far in the story?  I agree, Arthur starts as unlikable, but that's kind of the point.   There's a watershed moment after he completes the money lending quests and gets his...cough...that I found super compelling about him when playing it through as a good character. 

And I don't know how you couldn't feel the story didn't connect to the first game, especially with the epilogue chapter. 

For me the only thing I felt was out of place and a let down was Chapter 5 in the Caribbean.   It just felt too long, on rails, and unnecessary.

Maybe I'm too easy to please. 
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Gusington on October 23, 2019, 02:53:43 PM
^Game harlot.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: SirAndrewD on October 23, 2019, 03:01:32 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 23, 2019, 02:53:43 PM
^Game harlot.

I resemble that remark.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: JasonPratt on October 23, 2019, 03:25:40 PM
"Chapter 5 in the Caribbean"

:o

Okay, I wasn't expecting that...
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: SirAndrewD on October 23, 2019, 04:07:12 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on October 23, 2019, 03:25:40 PM
"Chapter 5 in the Caribbean"

:o

Okay, I wasn't expecting that...

Sorry for the spoiler.  I wasn't expecting it either when it happened.   Sadly it's the weakest part of the game.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Moreb on October 23, 2019, 05:18:15 PM
Cowboys of the Caribbean

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.worldemand.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F09%2F06115620%2FPirates-of-the-Caribbean-The-Cowboy-Crew-Member.jpg&hash=64f614e284c86d7213aef0bc887220d0aee67660)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: FlickJax on October 24, 2019, 03:06:54 AM
Quote from: Moreb on October 23, 2019, 05:18:15 PM
Cowboys of the Caribbean

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.worldemand.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F09%2F06115620%2FPirates-of-the-Caribbean-The-Cowboy-Crew-Member.jpg&hash=64f614e284c86d7213aef0bc887220d0aee67660)

Not only a cowboy but a re-incarnated James Dean to boot :)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: JasonPratt on October 24, 2019, 11:54:11 AM
After that, the little figures talking to Jack Sparrow looked like Jack Sparrow...  ;D
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Tpek on November 01, 2019, 05:17:10 PM
Holy Moly! The Pre-Load alone is over 100GB!
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 01, 2019, 05:21:09 PM
that's nothing, call of duty was around 130gb
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Tpek on November 01, 2019, 05:49:21 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 01, 2019, 05:21:09 PM
that's nothing, call of duty was around 130gb

That's a lot of Duty!
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Gusington on November 01, 2019, 07:42:54 PM
 ^-^
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: al_infierno on November 05, 2019, 12:39:07 PM
Released on PC today.  Anybody playing?  Lots of day 1 performance issues reported on the RDR subreddit, unsurprisingly.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: JudgeDredd on November 05, 2019, 01:08:53 PM
I'm good with my PS4 version  ;D
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Pete Dero on November 05, 2019, 01:30:01 PM
Quote from: al_infierno on November 05, 2019, 12:39:07 PM
Released on PC today.  Anybody playing?  Lots of day 1 performance issues reported on the RDR subreddit, unsurprisingly.

I'm waiting for the Steam release next month.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Father Ted on November 05, 2019, 01:38:23 PM
Quote from: Pete Dero on November 05, 2019, 01:30:01 PM
Quote from: al_infierno on November 05, 2019, 12:39:07 PM
Released on PC today.  Anybody playing?  Lots of day 1 performance issues reported on the RDR subreddit, unsurprisingly.

I'm waiting for the Steam release next month.

Ditto, but also nervously eyeing the recommended specs (thank goodness for Steam refund)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 05, 2019, 05:09:43 PM
Of course bought and downloaded:). Just have to find time to actually play it
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Pete Dero on November 06, 2019, 11:13:09 AM
Quote from: Father Ted on November 05, 2019, 01:38:23 PM
Ditto, but also nervously eyeing the recommended specs (thank goodness for Steam refund)

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/red_dead_redemption_2_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,3.html

The majority of modern graphics card will run this game pretty well, but simply not at the heaviest quality settings, that so far is a fact. Probably everybody will need to balance things out a little if you aim for that super image quality, or better playability framerate wise.The big advantage on a PC, of course, remains that image quality is something you can configure, as otherwise, you'd be playing on a console. It's a good looking game at high-quality and at best quality settings. At the best settings in Ultra HD you'll need some serious serious horsepower (pardon the pun) to reach that 60 FPS domain. But here again, please do fiddle and twiddle a little with the image quality settings as these are the conundrum of all complexity. With any reasonably modern graphics card, up-to 1920x1080 really is not an issue, the WQHD domain is easy enough for any modern card to ooze out decent framerates at that Favor performance modus. Memory wise anything starting at 4GB is the minimum alright, with 6GB being a superb choice but really, 8 GB it is the absolute 2019 sweet spot. Aside from a random occasional stutter and some FPS drops the game is playable and enjoyable.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Jarhead0331 on November 06, 2019, 11:22:29 AM
My RTX 2080ti with 11GB should shred this, but I'm still most likely going to hold out until it comes out on Steam. I had trouble getting into it on the console...maybe on the PC it will take hold?
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Dammit Carl! on November 06, 2019, 12:17:05 PM
(Ears perk up)

PC release?  Whaaaa?
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Gusington on November 06, 2019, 01:18:40 PM
It's out for PC, just not for Steam for another month.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Pete Dero on November 06, 2019, 01:48:54 PM
If you wait for the Steam edition to avoid another layer of DRM you could be out of luck :

A Steam version will reportedly follow in December of this year, though it looks like it too will require the Rockstar Games Launcher, much like how the Grand Theft Auto V PC version was patched to require RGL earlier this year.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/11/red-dead-redemption-2-launches-on-pc-we-take-a-mosey-through-its-upgrades/
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Pete Dero on November 06, 2019, 01:50:04 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on November 06, 2019, 11:22:29 AM
My RTX 2080ti with 11GB should shred this, but I'm still most likely going to hold out until it comes out on Steam. I had trouble getting into it on the console...maybe on the PC it will take hold?

Otherwise, my 1440p gameplay worked with near-max graphics settings at roughly 70fps, which only required a settings downscale of the game's "distant volumetric" settings (which got me nearly 18% of my frames back with zero apparent difference in terms of visuals). Keep that toggle in mind if you're using a system weaker than mine (i7-8770K, RTX 2080 Ti, 32GB of DDR-3000 RAM, SSD drive).


https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/11/red-dead-redemption-2-launches-on-pc-we-take-a-mosey-through-its-upgrades/
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: al_infierno on November 06, 2019, 02:51:02 PM
I bought it through the Rockstar launcher to minimize the number of DRM layers.  So far, haven't been able to launch the game at all.  It gets to the splash screen and crashes at the same spot every time.  Updated drivers and BIOS didn't help.  Buyer beware.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Gusington on November 06, 2019, 03:18:42 PM
:/
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: al_infierno on November 06, 2019, 03:49:51 PM
 Looks like BitDefender was the issue.  I had added RDR2.exe and the rockstarlauncher.exe and rockstarpatcher.exe to my exceptions for Malwarebytes and Windows Firewall, but forgot about BitDefender.  Now I'm rockin' and rollin' O0
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Gusington on November 06, 2019, 06:02:34 PM
How's it running?
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: al_infierno on November 06, 2019, 06:09:57 PM
Smooth as butter on my Intel i7 6700k, 16 GB RAM, and GTX 1070.  It even alt tabs smoothly  :smitten:

My settings defaulted to mostly high with a few mediums here and there, and the game looks incredible.  I assume I'd need a beefier GPU to get the most out of ultra graphics.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 06, 2019, 06:45:27 PM
Haven't played much, but things working fine for me.  I have BitDefender/Malware Bytes too, didn't have to exclude the game or anything so far...
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Gusington on November 06, 2019, 09:10:09 PM
Is it purely a Western, or is it an rpg/action game with some western flavor? Or is it something else entirely?

It isn't like GTA set in the 1890s American West, is it?
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: bboyer66 on November 07, 2019, 10:24:54 AM
Quote from: Gusington on November 06, 2019, 09:10:09 PM
Is it purely a Western, or is it an rpg/action game with some western flavor? Or is it something else entirely?

It isn't like GTA set in the 1890s American West, is it?

It is one of my favorites of all time. It's a slow burn story wise, but that is good. You will be doing, and discovering a thousand things, that have nothing to do with the main story. It's biggest weakness is that you still have the rigid Rockstar style mission structure (pass or fail), to advance the main story line. But other then that, the game is a masterpiece. I'm big on games that can totally immerse you, and this is one of them. Scenery, hunting, so many different characters, and side missions. It's the closest you will ever get to a Western themed RPG.  For fucks sakes, it actually made me tear up a little at one point, it's that immersive.  So many little nuggets of fun as well, from trying to track a serial killer, to possible vampire killings in Saint Denis. The world is so fleshed out that you just don't want to leave.
But the most entertaining part overall for me is just travelling around the different landscapes, either hunting, or looking for lost treasures possibly. At one point I was on a cliff face of a mountain looking across almost half the map area thinking to myself , this is pretty fuckin cool.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Dammit Carl! on November 07, 2019, 11:08:03 AM
Quote from: bboyer66 on November 07, 2019, 10:24:54 AM
Quote from: Gusington on November 06, 2019, 09:10:09 PM
Is it purely a Western, or is it an rpg/action game with some western flavor? Or is it something else entirely?

It isn't like GTA set in the 1890s American West, is it?
It is one of my favorites of all time. It's a slow burn story wise, but that is good. You will be doing, and discovering a thousand things, that have nothing to do with the main story....But the most entertaining part overall for me is just travelling around the different landscapes, either hunting, or looking for lost treasures possibly. At one point I was on a cliff face of a mountain looking across almost half the map area thinking to myself , this is pretty fuckin cool.

Yup.  Sums it up pretty dang well (and I'm just going off of the first RDR's memories for me).

Makes me hanker for a good western pen & paper rpg...
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Tpek on November 07, 2019, 12:30:13 PM
Quote from: Gusington on November 06, 2019, 09:10:09 PM
Is it purely a Western, or is it an rpg/action game with some western flavor? Or is it something else entirely?

It isn't like GTA set in the 1890s American West, is it?

It's a pure Western, no Sci-Fi or Fantasy elements as far as I can tell.

I've only played it for a few hours so far, but it runs smoothly on my very aging rig (though it does make my GPU run hotter than it usually does, ~62C).

The beginning really reminded me of Tarantino's Hateful Eight.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Gusington on November 07, 2019, 12:36:07 PM
Thanks guys. Sounds like there are some 'out there' elements...like the (possible) vampires that Boyer mentions above.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: JasonPratt on November 07, 2019, 07:11:10 PM
Quote from: Gusington on November 06, 2019, 09:10:09 PM
Is it purely a Western, or is it an rpg/action game with some western flavor? Or is it something else entirely?

It isn't like GTA set in the 1890s American West, is it?

The first game was very much "spaghetti western" in flavor (and everything I've seen of the prequel confirms); and consequently there are some supernatural elements on occasion. Ghosts mostly, and a mysterious guy dressed like a funeral-home director who appears and disappears and knows WAAAAAAYYY more about people than he should. Is he a ghost of someone slain by your character before the game started? Death? the Devil? God? (Probably God, putting all the things he says together, but he's written to be vague.)

There's creepy spaghetti western music throughout the whole game which gives the whole thing a spooky edge even when supernatural things aren't happening.

The alternate-canon extension to the end of the first game, Undead Nightmare, takes all those more subtle factors and ramps them up to 11 starting with a zombie outbreak. It's still very much in a spaghetti-western mode though.


Other than that, I'm not sure what you mean by "purely a Western". The setting is totally a western in every regard, and you go around doing "western" things of all kinds. You could mostly ignore the main story and just go around towns and settlements playing blackjack and poker in tournaments if you wanted to. I let my nieces ride around the map on a horse, with the provision that THEY MUST NOT STOP AND GET OFF FOR ANY REASON! -- because this is a hard-R rated game. One of them was showing off for the grandparents and parents while I was off entertaining the other niece, and when I came back into the room she had stopped to see what was up with a guy who was crying over his dead wife slain by bandits. Before I could get her back on the horse and away, he had shot himself in his grief. That put an end to them playing this game for the foreseeable future. ;)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: SirAndrewD on November 07, 2019, 09:04:29 PM
Quote from: Gusington on November 07, 2019, 12:36:07 PM
Thanks guys. Sounds like there are some 'out there' elements...like the (possible) vampires that Boyer mentions above.

You pretty much have to actively go looking for them for the most part.  It's not as front and center as GTA games. 

Lets just say that you should be careful staying in the Swamp north of St. Denis at night.

And if you find the right burnt out cabin that takes you into the mountains at a certain time, you might get the answer to the question "are we alone?"

Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Gusington on November 07, 2019, 09:12:58 PM
^Cool...by 'purely a Western' I mean it doesn't have any other themes going on, spooky or otherwise.

Also - I have never played a Rockstar game.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: JasonPratt on November 07, 2019, 10:01:14 PM
The Undead Nightmare expansion for the original game pushes it, but even that's very much western-themed -- including how it was caused and solved.

The epilogue to the original game (which has one new mission and otherwise an open sandbox to mess around and fill out lingering things), is set in 1911 at the start of WW1! -- but is still very much western-themed.

This is why many fans, myself included, were hoping for a true sequel (maybe not with Marston's whiny-sounding son ;) ) set during WW1 and America's tensions with Germans in Mexico, such as our invasion of Valencia. (Or Vera Cruz or whatever that city was, I forget. It was the last invasion of Mexico by the United States until now.)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Gusington on November 08, 2019, 08:14:09 AM
Vera Cruz, IIRC. That's in this new game?? Please say yes even if it isn't.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: JasonPratt on November 08, 2019, 08:29:08 AM
YES!

(No, this is a prequel taking place 10+ years before the first game.)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Gusington on November 08, 2019, 09:53:46 AM
 :-[
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: bboyer66 on November 08, 2019, 10:21:56 AM
In RDR2 lets just say that you might wind up on a jungle island off the coast of Cuba, helping a revolution against a tyrannical dictator.  Similar somewhat to the missions in RDR1 Mexico, but with more jungle, and less desert.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Gusington on November 08, 2019, 01:28:24 PM
^This is the kind of info I am looking for. That sounds...incredible.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: JasonPratt on November 08, 2019, 03:17:32 PM
Also still very spaghetti westernish.  :coolsmiley:

Gus, loin thyself with this RDR1 / Humbling River trailer.

Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: al_infierno on November 08, 2019, 04:51:19 PM
I do gotta say that the lack of Mexico is still by far the biggest letdown of RDR2.  They even added New Austin from RDR1 to the RDR2 map, but lopped off Nuevo Paraiso.  You can at least hear the old Mexico music in the new game if you hang around the river that separates New Austin from Mexico for long enough.

Speaking of music, I can't wait for the inevitable mod to come that adds the ambient music from RDR1 to the RDR1 areas of RDR2.   :dreamer:
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: SirAndrewD on November 08, 2019, 05:40:26 PM
Quote from: Gusington on November 08, 2019, 01:28:24 PM
^This is the kind of info I am looking for. That sounds...incredible.

Sadly it's the weakest part of the game. 

That might however just be a testament to how strong the other parts of the game are comparatively. 
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Gusington on November 09, 2019, 03:21:31 PM
You're toying with my emotions!
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: solops on November 11, 2019, 06:08:19 PM
Weapons - all old West historical? i thought I saw an automatic in one screenshot. If so, I want Desert Eagle 44 mag, not the 50 cal.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: JasonPratt on November 11, 2019, 07:06:05 PM
Original game had a super-obsolete pistol (the Volcano) as one of the better guns, and a rifle that wasn't invented until 1914 (game is set in 1911), plus another rifle that would have been a lot rarer in Western America than the game suggests. (Like, maybe one collector-piece in the whole area, not something anyone could buy from the local market with enough cash.) It pushes the limits. There's also a pistol that merges a Browning Hi-power with something else for a fictional piece, which is odd because Colt 1911 should have been available (if very expensive).

The devs do try to provide period-appropriate pieces which make sense for the setting. Gatlings are the only machine guns for example, even though by 1911 others were probably available.

No idea yet about RDR2 which is set in 1899.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: al_infierno on November 11, 2019, 09:32:48 PM
Quote from: solops on November 11, 2019, 06:08:19 PM
Weapons - all old West historical? i thought I saw an automatic in one screenshot. If so, I want Desert Eagle 44 mag, not the 50 cal.

Apparently there's an "M1899" which is based on the Browning M1900.  Is that what you're thinking of?  I've actually never seen the gun in-game, it seems to be pretty rare.

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/reddeadredemption/images/e/e3/M1899Pistol.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: Gusington on November 11, 2019, 09:51:00 PM
1899 eh? Is there any type of steampunk aesthetic?
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: al_infierno on November 11, 2019, 10:10:53 PM
Quote from: Gusington on November 11, 2019, 09:51:00 PM
1899 eh? Is there any type of steampunk aesthetic?

I've seen a mod where somebody turned themselves into a tinman-esque steam powered robot  ;D

In the vanilla game though, no, the aesthetic and feel is strictly historical.  The locations on the game map are made up, but with an authentic feel like you're in different parts of the American deep south in 1899, and with references to real places like California and New York City so it feels grounded in the real world.  As far as I can tell, everything in the game represents something that authentically existed in 1899.  Aside from those fantastical easter eggs people have mentioned of course, but you'll generally only find those if you're looking for them.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: SirAndrewD on November 11, 2019, 10:14:14 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on November 11, 2019, 07:06:05 PM


The devs do try to provide period-appropriate pieces which make sense for the setting. Gatlings are the only machine guns for example, even though by 1911 others were probably available.

No idea yet about RDR2 which is set in 1899.

Machine guns in RDR2 are present in the game, especially in the hands of the hyper-anachronistic Confederate Holdout Lemoyne Raiders.  They're of the Maxim type.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: mbar on November 12, 2019, 08:38:27 AM
Quote from: al_infierno on November 11, 2019, 09:32:48 PM
Quote from: solops on November 11, 2019, 06:08:19 PM
Weapons - all old West historical? i thought I saw an automatic in one screenshot. If so, I want Desert Eagle 44 mag, not the 50 cal.

Apparently there's an "M1899" which is based on the Browning M1900.  Is that what you're thinking of?  I've actually never seen the gun in-game, it seems to be pretty rare.

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/reddeadredemption/images/e/e3/M1899Pistol.jpg)

DAM! That is detailed!
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: bboyer66 on November 12, 2019, 09:11:42 AM
The amount of detail that goes into everything is just mind boggling. The only equivalent I would say is The Witcher III in the amount of detail.

You can really gussy up your weapons with a myriad of options, from different metals, engravings, woods, etc.
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gamengadgets.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F12%2FRevolvers.jpg&hash=6d5c5d9ee58d099815d27fedbb896b63c606ba04)

Oh by the way, one of the most entertaining things I did was hunt legendary animals for the cool hats, and outfits their pelts make.

  (https://preview.redd.it/5v26rtlv7kw11.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=6f91080897ce7bbaecb91ea03aef58a97e9e50a1)
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: solops on November 12, 2019, 10:22:24 AM
Quote from: al_infierno on November 11, 2019, 09:32:48 PM
Quote from: solops on November 11, 2019, 06:08:19 PM
Weapons - all old West historical? i thought I saw an automatic in one screenshot. If so, I want Desert Eagle 44 mag, not the 50 cal.

Apparently there's an "M1899" which is based on the Browning M1900.  Is that what you're thinking of?  I've actually never seen the gun in-game, it seems to be pretty rare.

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/reddeadredemption/images/e/e3/M1899Pistol.jpg)
Yes, this is the pic that sparked my question. I thought the game was more 1870 to 1890.
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: bboyer66 on November 13, 2019, 08:36:41 AM
1899
Title: Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
Post by: al_infierno on November 15, 2019, 07:53:35 PM
Word of warning for anybody still on the fence about picking this up on PC.  https://www.reddit.com/r/PCRedDead/comments/dwjp1t/i_think_ive_just_made_a_discovery_about_a_big/

Short version:

Quote
Core drain rate and weight loss rate is directly and incorrectly bound to whatever fps the game is running at.

Reason why this is a problem - Arthur will be at his lowest weight very fast no matter what you do if yo have a high fps and your cores will always be low.

It seems that the problem is the game classes frames as actual units of time passing so at a high fps of 120 the code treats 1 day as technically 4 days long. Even if you limit your fps to a steady 60 Arthur will need to eat twice as much as he would on consoles to not become massively underweight.

Not a game-breaking bug by any means, but it's certainly immersion breaking.  I did notice that my Arthur seemed to be rapidly losing weight every day despite how much I ate.  I've never had a problem with my cores dropping lightning fast as described in the post, which would be more annoying as they basically represent your health, stamina, etc.