Diablo II - Resurrected

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CJReich46

" He either fears his fate too much
Or his deserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch
To win or lose it all."  - James Graham 1st Marquis of Montrose

al_infierno

Everyone download the old version of Diablo II before they take it offline forever.
A War of a Madman's Making - a text-based war planning and political survival RPG

It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge.  War endures.  As well ask men what they think of stone.  War was always here.  Before man was, war waited for him.  The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner.  That is the way it was and will be.  That way and not some other way.
- Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian


If they made nothing but WWII games, I'd be perfectly content.  Hypothetical matchups from alternate history 1980s, asymmetrical US-bashes-some-3rd world guerillas, or minor wars between Upper Bumblescum and outer Kaboomistan hold no appeal for me.
- Silent Disapproval Robot


I guess it's sort of nice that the word "tactical" seems to refer to some kind of seriousness during your moments of mental clarity.
- MengJiao

smittyohio

Quote from: al_infierno on February 19, 2021, 08:05:18 PM
Everyone download the old version of Diablo II before they take it offline forever.

I tried getting back into D2 some months back, but it was just not happening even with the nostalgia factor.  While D3 had a (deservedly) rough start, it blossomed into a really run game that I still binge on from time to time.

Gusington

I can't believe it's really been that long since the release of D2. I can't help but be interested in this. I love D3 too. Just big stupid fun.


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Destraex

Consult your doctor to see if your clicking finger will survive!  :D
"They only asked the Light Brigade to do it once"

al_infierno

A War of a Madman's Making - a text-based war planning and political survival RPG

It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge.  War endures.  As well ask men what they think of stone.  War was always here.  Before man was, war waited for him.  The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner.  That is the way it was and will be.  That way and not some other way.
- Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian


If they made nothing but WWII games, I'd be perfectly content.  Hypothetical matchups from alternate history 1980s, asymmetrical US-bashes-some-3rd world guerillas, or minor wars between Upper Bumblescum and outer Kaboomistan hold no appeal for me.
- Silent Disapproval Robot


I guess it's sort of nice that the word "tactical" seems to refer to some kind of seriousness during your moments of mental clarity.
- MengJiao

CJReich46

" He either fears his fate too much
Or his deserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch
To win or lose it all."  - James Graham 1st Marquis of Montrose

al_infierno

^ Great link.  I love how each point has a lengthy paragraph explaining it, but then you get this brief and to-the-point "f#&! off, nerds" bit at the bottom.   :DD

QuoteLadder is still called ladder: "We don't call it seasons," Gallerani said.
A War of a Madman's Making - a text-based war planning and political survival RPG

It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge.  War endures.  As well ask men what they think of stone.  War was always here.  Before man was, war waited for him.  The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner.  That is the way it was and will be.  That way and not some other way.
- Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian


If they made nothing but WWII games, I'd be perfectly content.  Hypothetical matchups from alternate history 1980s, asymmetrical US-bashes-some-3rd world guerillas, or minor wars between Upper Bumblescum and outer Kaboomistan hold no appeal for me.
- Silent Disapproval Robot


I guess it's sort of nice that the word "tactical" seems to refer to some kind of seriousness during your moments of mental clarity.
- MengJiao

JasonPratt

Interesting. They're keeping the classic code (with tighter security) and using that the run the newfangled 3D engine and sounds, in order to ensure fidelity (a blocky puppeteer and a lifelike puppet), although it looks like they'll have to make some tweaks to area effects to account for modern screen rectangularities.

I can see some people trying to play the original graphics (swappable on the fly) in 4:3 resolutions and complaining that the hitboxes and area effects are slightly off now...  ::)
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Destraex

Well I guess it will not be exactly the same look as diablo2. It's funny how some stuff gets the policial correctness treatment but then other stuff is just as lude, inappropriate or just plain wrong and basically encouraged in society nowadays.

"Diablo 2 developer Matt Uelmen: "My only strong opinion is that it needs to ... and not succumb to the temptation to make a censored version."

It seems as though Blizzard has already succumbed. From what we've seen so far: Andariel and the Dark Rangers have their butts covered. Amazon now has a full kilt on, hiding her thighs and side-butt. Assassin's thighs are covered. Sorceress lost her underboob, has briefs on under her skirt, and has a longer skirt. Sorry folks, but this game is looking more and more censored with each video/announcement.

Also, the Amazon looks like an old man. The Barbarian looks like a 58 year old retired wrestler with low testosterone. The Druid found a hair dresser. The Sorceress turned into a thicc latina. The Assassin turned into Shang Tsung. The Necromancer looks alright, but older. The Paladin needs to visit the Druid's hair dresser.

Say what you want, but the lack of censorship was as much a part of Diablo 2's success as was killing demons.

For the love of Tyrael, please show off Andy's butt. Them cheeks were a wonder to look at while cutting her down."

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/blizzard/t/diablo-2-resurrected-censored-edition/15412/3
"They only asked the Light Brigade to do it once"

al_infierno

Looks like a creative decision to me, not some external pressure forcing them to censor anything.  And let's not really pretend that some pixelated butts were really that important to the D2 experience...
A War of a Madman's Making - a text-based war planning and political survival RPG

It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge.  War endures.  As well ask men what they think of stone.  War was always here.  Before man was, war waited for him.  The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner.  That is the way it was and will be.  That way and not some other way.
- Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian


If they made nothing but WWII games, I'd be perfectly content.  Hypothetical matchups from alternate history 1980s, asymmetrical US-bashes-some-3rd world guerillas, or minor wars between Upper Bumblescum and outer Kaboomistan hold no appeal for me.
- Silent Disapproval Robot


I guess it's sort of nice that the word "tactical" seems to refer to some kind of seriousness during your moments of mental clarity.
- MengJiao

Yskonyn

I reckon you're a fan of the nude mods for Tomb Raider, Des?  :peace:
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Destraex

Quote from: Yskonyn on April 17, 2021, 01:33:21 AM
I reckon you're a fan of the nude mods for Tomb Raider, Des?  :peace:

Actually I am a bit of a prude. Always considered people who need pixelated nudity to be crass and deprived. But I am a little disappointed that old stuff must be changed due to new correctness or even to market to younger audiences. I am sure some D2 veterans will be disappointed by things being a little less authentic, less true to the original. The days of PC games being made for niche geeky audiences are well over I guess.
"They only asked the Light Brigade to do it once"

al_infierno

#13
Oh, come on.  Are "niche geeky audiences" exclusively straight males?

I'm not trying to start an argument or get this moved to R&P or anything, I just don't really get how covering a pixelated butt somehow means the end of niche geeky games.
A War of a Madman's Making - a text-based war planning and political survival RPG

It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge.  War endures.  As well ask men what they think of stone.  War was always here.  Before man was, war waited for him.  The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner.  That is the way it was and will be.  That way and not some other way.
- Cormac McCarthy, Blood Meridian


If they made nothing but WWII games, I'd be perfectly content.  Hypothetical matchups from alternate history 1980s, asymmetrical US-bashes-some-3rd world guerillas, or minor wars between Upper Bumblescum and outer Kaboomistan hold no appeal for me.
- Silent Disapproval Robot


I guess it's sort of nice that the word "tactical" seems to refer to some kind of seriousness during your moments of mental clarity.
- MengJiao

Destraex

#14
Quote from: al_infierno on April 17, 2021, 01:07:49 PM
Oh, come on.  Are "niche geeky audiences" exclusively straight males?

I'm not trying to start an argument or get this moved to R&P or anything, I just don't really get how covering a pixelated butt somehow means the end of niche geeky games.
I meant exclusively made for a niche pc gaming audience. Back when diablo 2 was made (maybe I am thinking of diablo 1) pc gaming was the geek in the corners domain that the general media had veryblittle care about. Now it is front and centre, so not only do geeks need to be taken care of, but even if a game is made exclusively for the geeks, it must moreso than before, be suitable for mucb wider audiences. Even if only a tiny percentage of that wider audience are interested. However with regard to diablo specifically, times have changed and now thst it is cool to be into pc gaming and to be geeky, diablo dungeons and dragons stuff is these days very wide audienfe stuff. So remakes must get the treatment. Games must be made for less specialised audiences while perhaps still covering very niche specialised subject matter. I am sure if you go back far enough in dungeon crawler history there was a time where they were almost exclusively for geeky niche audiences and no other walks of life were considered or needed to be. Was diablo2 originally ma15 plus?

So no al_infierno. Geeky audiences in this day, right now, are no longer overwhelmingly straight males like I would say they were in the past. Now they are in fact more likely to be more diverse than most walks of life. However my perception when I was growing up may not have been your experience. But generally speaking, you would not find a girl within miles of a serious geeky PC game screen when I was a young lad. Now it's common and now the PC computer hobby in general is much less technical and easier to get into. There is a much wider audience. Plus now we have a lot of lobby groups that did not exist in the past.
"They only asked the Light Brigade to do it once"