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Sir Slash

I guess I was thinking of the Avenger but I could've sworn there was an 'Ardent' too. Thanks for the info Meng.
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Windigo

seems like a low grade curse to name a ship Ardent in Her Majesty's navy....
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MengJiao

Quote from: Windigo on March 20, 2019, 02:43:45 PM
seems like a low grade curse to name a ship Ardent in Her Majesty's navy....

   In the destroyer/frigate world the A's (Ardent, Argonaut, Arrogant, Ambushcade, Alacrity, Acasta, Agammennon etc.) tend to be the first set of some new approach, so when wars break out the A's are: 1) plentiful 2) somewhat obsolete 3) possibly in need of modifications 4) very useful.  Note how even under sail they were all 64s!   As a counter-example, some of the late Leanders went to the Falklands -- BUT -- being very out-of-date -- they didn't end up in the line of fire as much.
I was sort of wrong.  One of the Leanders (there were 26! Thanks Wikipedia) even had Seawolf (


Four members of the class saw action during the 1982 Falklands war, 3 batch two conversions, HMS Argonaut, HMS Minerva and HMS Penelope [44] Argonaut experienced 15 air attacks in San Carlos Sound and was hits by a number of bombs and cannon fire, it was stranded for six days, with two bombs lodged in the forward Seacat magazine and boiler room.[44] The first Seawolf conversion HMS Andromeda, was one of only three Seawolf fitted frigates available with the Royal Navy's newest missile in the war and served during the war as the critical, 'goalkeeper', last line of defence escort for the carrier, HMS Invincible during the war.[45] The five unconverted, gun-armed, broad-beam Leanders, arrived in the war zone in the last week of the conflict and immediately after it to serve with the post war task force led by the brand new carrier , HMS Illustrious. An Argentine frog man team made a serious attempt to place limpet mines on HMS Adriane at Gibraltar during the 1982 war. The last Leander commissioned in 1973 the frigate like the 2 built for Chile carried special electronic warfare systems, for countering[clarification needed] Exocet missiles, and the Argentine services may have anticipated the Adriane was scheduled for service in the exclusion zone,[citation needed] which in fact did not happen until the end of Operation Corporate.

Sir Slash

This man knows his A's.  :notworthy:
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Gusington



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MengJiao

Quote from: Gusington on March 20, 2019, 08:23:47 PM
AMBUSHCADE!!

The usual 8 Ambushcade/Embushcades (Note that -- true to the traditions of the A's one was a prototype and one was the first steam frigate -- but-- none ever were sunk or blown up):

HMS Ambuscade (1746) was a 40-gun fifth rate, formerly the French ship Embuscade, captured in 1746. She fought off Cape Finisterre, captured the privateer Vainqueen and fought with Boscawen against de la Clue off Lagos. She was sold at Deptford in 1762.
HMS Ambuscade (1773) was a 32-gun fifth rate frigate launched in 1773, captured by the French corvette Bayonnaise in the Action of 14 December 1798 and renamed Embuscade. She was recaptured by the British in 1803 and broken up in 1810.
HMS Ambuscade was the 40-gun French frigate Embuscade, which the Royal Navy captured in 1798. She was renamed HMS Seine when the previous Ambuscade was recaptured in 1803. She was broken up in 1813.
HMS Ambuscade was a 38-gun French frigate Pomone, which the Royal Navy captured in 1811. She was broken up in 1812.
HMS Ambuscade was originally laid down in 1830 as a fifth rate, but was renamed HMS Amphion before finally being launched in 1846 as the first Royal Navy steam-powered frigate.
HMS Ambuscade (1913), launched in 1913, was an Acasta-class destroyer that served in World War I and was scrapped in 1921.
HMS Ambuscade (D38), launched in 1926, was a prototype destroyer which served in World War II and was sold for scrap in 1946.
HMS Ambuscade (F172) was a Type 21 frigate launched in 1973 that fought in the Falklands War. In 1993 she was sold to Pakistan and renamed Tariq.

Gusington

In the reading I've done it seems like every ship built in the world from 1850 on served in WWI and WWII in some capacity.


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Sir Slash

Are the Brits going to stick with the whole, 'His' and, 'Her' Majesty's Ship thing? I thought everything was becoming more non-gender identity oriented. So maybe, 'Our' Majesty or, 'The' Majesty's Ship? Could be, 'Person Majestical Ship'--- PMS. What could be wrong with that?  ::)
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MengJiao

Quote from: Gusington on March 21, 2019, 08:54:29 AM
In the reading I've done it seems like every ship built in the world from 1850 on served in WWI and WWII in some capacity.

  Perhaps usually as targets?  Or breakwaters?  Or oil pier supports (HMS Warrior 1860 was an oil pier support until they decided to rebuild it as a musem)

MengJiao

Quote from: Sir Slash on March 21, 2019, 09:17:14 AM
Are the Brits going to stick with the whole, 'His' and, 'Her' Majesty's Ship thing? I thought everything was becoming more non-gender identity oriented. So maybe, 'Our' Majesty or, 'The' Majesty's Ship? Could be, 'Person Majestical Ship'--- PMS. What could be wrong with that?  ::)

Well, note that it's only the Royal Navy that has this overall HMS quirk.  The British Army was never "royal" as a whole since it was the New Model Army (NMA) that restored the Monarchy in 1660 and was therefore never commissioned by the Crown.   Of course some forces were commissioned by the Crown: the Royal Artillery, the Royal Tank Regiment, the Royal Air Force, the Royal Marines.  Others not so much (the Green Howards, Cold Stream Guards etc.),   PLUS of course, in the King's English, H can stand for "His" or "hers" and following the grammar of the genitive (rather like the 3rd person indefinite in Athapaskan languages at this point), the act of Possession passes to the Crown itself ('s after Majesty).  So "HMS" is (by historical and grammatical accident) really pretty gender-neutral.

Gusington

Targets or breakwaters still qualify!! Even if it's not as sexy as being converted to an aircraft carrier...


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Sir Slash

I don't know. Breakwaters can be pretty sexy too. Especially if you've been out to sea... a looong time.  :coolsmiley:
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HoodedHorseJoe

So there's a PS4 version of WoWS coming out later this month, which we might dabble at looking at. Decided to jump back onto the PC version as I've never really played it before (the late Mr. Cobb was our guy for that game), and I'm quite enjoying it. I understand they've made carriers a bit naff now, which is a shame as I was looking forward to trying them out. Gone down the IJN route for Carriers which I'm told is now the worst carrier line, so... yay?

Just got BS via the UK tree, which I'm told is also quite rubbish until you get to the end. Great Choices R US!

But outside of that, I'm actually quite enjoying it. I'm hoping Wargaming do something spaceship-themed properly now that they've bought Edge Case Games. I always liked the idea of Fractured Space but I just never devoted any time to it. Which is a shame as now the game has ceased development and you can't download it anymore (although you can still play if you already own it).
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Quote from: WargamerJoe on April 04, 2019, 04:11:48 AM
So there's a PS4 version of WoWS coming out later this month, which we might dabble at looking at. Decided to jump back onto the PC version as I've never really played it before (the late Mr. Cobb was our guy for that game), and I'm quite enjoying it. I understand they've made carriers a bit naff now, which is a shame as I was looking forward to trying them out. Gone down the IJN route for Carriers which I'm told is now the worst carrier line, so... yay?

Just got BS via the UK tree, which I'm told is also quite rubbish until you get to the end. Great Choices R US!

But outside of that, I'm actually quite enjoying it. I'm hoping Wargaming do something spaceship-themed properly now that they've bought Edge Case Games. I always liked the idea of Fractured Space but I just never devoted any time to it. Which is a shame as now the game has ceased development and you can't download it anymore (although you can still play if you already own it).

Carriers are hard. Real hard. So hard that I couldn't hit squat with them, despite repeated attempts in the training rooms. You only fire one torp at a time, or one bomb at a time. Jeepers.