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Title: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: bayonetbrant on April 17, 2016, 08:25:34 PM
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this one's coming fast-and-furious for the next few days...
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: JasonPratt on April 17, 2016, 09:14:39 PM
Subscribed!  :D

(Note that this isn't the mp game I'm working on with Bartheart, but rather Banzai Cat's single player vs the AI. So potential buyers can get a good look at both kinds of play.)
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 17, 2016, 10:29:39 PM
Couple of corrections.  Your starting influence cannot go anywhere in the world.  If you're playing as the US, you have to put your 7 points in Western Europe.  Remember that Turkey and Canada are included in Western Europe in this game.  If you're the USSR, your 6 points have to go into Eastern Europe.  Finland and Austria are counted in both western and eastern Europe.

You can only attempt the Space Race once per turn until you get far enough along the track that you're permitted to try twice.
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: JasonPratt on April 18, 2016, 12:06:19 PM
Quote from: Banzai_Cart, presumablyThis game can drive you mad as a newbie. A veteran player would clearly see the best possible path, while all I see are nothing BUT paths, like some homicidal Choose Your Own Adventure book with twenty page choices.

O0 :smitten:
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: BanzaiCat on April 19, 2016, 06:38:30 AM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 17, 2016, 10:29:39 PM
Couple of corrections.  Your starting influence cannot go anywhere in the world.  If you're playing as the US, you have to put your 7 points in Western Europe.  Remember that Turkey and Canada are included in Western Europe in this game.  If you're the USSR, your 6 points have to go into Eastern Europe.  Finland and Austria are counted in both western and eastern Europe.

You can only attempt the Space Race once per turn until you get far enough along the track that you're permitted to try twice.

I figured I'd misrepresent something at some point even though I felt certain I had it down. Thanks for the corrections, SDR!  O0
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 19, 2016, 04:02:46 PM
I screw up rules all the time.  It's my forte.

Regarding AAR, pt 3.  It's usually better to try for a coup than go for a realignment when the defcon situation allows for it.  You usually have a better chance at a coup, you get the military points you need, and if you try for a battleground state, you make it harder for your opponent to counter-coup.
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: BanzaiCat on April 21, 2016, 05:53:22 PM
Wish I could discuss Turn 2; I just submitted it to Brant, though, so I'll wait until those rounds get posted.
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: Barthheart on April 22, 2016, 10:58:19 AM
In part 6, just below the Asia Scoring scoreboard, you write:

QuoteI have a Presence in the Middle East, giving me +4 VP. However, he has Domination in the Middle East, giving him +9 VP. This is a net +3 VP for his Communist ideals. Add that to the +2 USSR VP that was already there and he now the Victory Track reflects +9 USSR VP.

Bad cold medicine? It was Asia Scoring not Middle east, 9-4 is 5 not 3, and the Commie final score is 7 not 9.  :idiot2:

Don't we have an editor....  ???
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: bayonetbrant on April 22, 2016, 11:09:51 AM
Quote from: Barthheart on April 22, 2016, 10:58:19 AMDon't we have an editor....  ???


news to me!  >:D
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: BanzaiCat on April 22, 2016, 05:19:43 PM
I suck at writing, too.
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: bayonetbrant on April 22, 2016, 08:59:25 PM
first week of AARs is now all up...  more coming on Sunday :)
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: Marty Ward on April 25, 2016, 03:57:54 PM
Is this both a single player and multiplayer?
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: Barthheart on April 25, 2016, 04:58:09 PM
Quote from: Marty Ward on April 25, 2016, 03:57:54 PM
Is this both a single player and multiplayer?

Yes.
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: Marty Ward on April 26, 2016, 09:08:01 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on April 25, 2016, 04:58:09 PM
Quote from: Marty Ward on April 25, 2016, 03:57:54 PM
Is this both a single player and multiplayer?

Yes.

Who sells it?  I don't see a link in the AAR.
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: Barthheart on April 26, 2016, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Marty Ward on April 26, 2016, 09:08:01 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on April 25, 2016, 04:58:09 PM
Quote from: Marty Ward on April 25, 2016, 03:57:54 PM
Is this both a single player and multiplayer?

Yes.

Who sells it?  I don't see a link in the AAR.

I believe it's only through Steam.
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: Marty Ward on April 26, 2016, 09:50:22 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on April 26, 2016, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Marty Ward on April 26, 2016, 09:08:01 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on April 25, 2016, 04:58:09 PM
Quote from: Marty Ward on April 25, 2016, 03:57:54 PM
Is this both a single player and multiplayer?

Yes.

Who sells it?  I don't see a link in the AAR.

I believe it's only through Steam.

Thanks. Price looks good and the reviews are positive. Might have to give it a try.
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: Barthheart on April 27, 2016, 05:22:25 AM
Quote from: Marty Ward on April 26, 2016, 09:50:22 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on April 26, 2016, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Marty Ward on April 26, 2016, 09:08:01 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on April 25, 2016, 04:58:09 PM
Quote from: Marty Ward on April 25, 2016, 03:57:54 PM
Is this both a single player and multiplayer?

Yes.

Who sells it?  I don't see a link in the AAR.

I believe it's only through Steam.

Thanks. Price looks good and the reviews are positive. Might have to give it a try.

It's a fun interesting tense game. Be prepared to get creamed the first few games though. The mechanics are easy to pick up but the overall strategy takes a bit of work to figure out.
Well worth the effort though . Fantastic port of a board game. Great UI and great atmosphere.
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: JasonPratt on April 28, 2016, 10:21:27 AM
The best port of a boardgame I've ever bought, and I'm including things like the Carcassone and Agricola and Stone Age and LeHavre ports. Those, and several others, are high bars.
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 29, 2016, 09:46:17 AM
One of the keys to the game is getting familiar with the card decks.  I think it's something that really only comes with experience.  After having my ass handed to me a dozen or more times, I finally got a feel for the early war deck.  I'm moderately familiar with the mid war deck and non familiar at all with the late war deck as near every game I've played has ended by mid war. 

I bring this up as I see you're getting lured by the AI into dumping influence into Africa on turn 2.  Remember that in the early war turns, the only scoring cards are Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. 
Title: Re: Feedback on Twilight Struggle AAR
Post by: Marty Ward on May 01, 2016, 09:22:23 AM
Damn this is one tough game.