Hearts of Iron IV

[acctingman]

The more and more I read here and other forums I think I'll just stick to playing minor nations to get more experience playing this game and wait to play the majors when a few patches come out.

But HOT DAMN....I wants me some Essex carriers!! 

[jomni]

I disbanded the guys in Japan.  After sometime, went to war with Nationalist China.  Then they joined Allies.  So it's a full blown Allies vs. Comintern World War raging around the Balkans and China.
Have to admit, game is fun despite the freaky results.

And how do I disable the window with the dog?   

[Pete Dero]

And how do I disable the window with the dog?

????

[Ian C]

give us some credit! i think you can discuss things here.

I know, but I meant for example, that I wanted to discuss the effectiveness of subs and ASW early in the game and whether DD's are a bit over-powered too early on. That sort of thing tends to go into specifics and get lost in a general thread. However, creating that topic in a general computer game forum is pretty specific.

Definitely keep the conversations here at Grogheads. Its ok to create other threads. We won't mod them. If there are enough threads and enough interest, we could create a subforum for the game.

Thanks Jarhead. Starting new thread.

[acctingman]

Appreciate everything your contributing to the HoI 4 communication here Ian. It's helping this noobie out immensely.

[jamus34]

So, my current game I'm playing as Japan and going after the Bear. My plan so far is to take as much of lower Asia as I can and declare on Russia once Germany goes after them.

I am trying to avoid a war with the us.

Let's see if I can pull this off. Currently in 39 and Europe is starting to heat up. Main issues for me are production and air power, which is bad since it's so OP right now.

Made some mistakes already here and there but this is my first game after the tutorial so I'm letting it ride.

[mikeck]

New Beta patch is up:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-1-1-0-beta-patch.951818/

[Ian C]

Appreciate everything your contributing to the HoI 4 communication here Ian. It's helping this noobie out immensely.

You're welcome. I have a lot of spare time right now and I like to pursue my interests 8)

[Ian C]

New Beta patch is up:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-1-1-0-beta-patch.951818/

Why beta patch and should you download it:
This patch might contain new errors. QA has not had a lot of time to test everything like we normally would, and some of the hardware related issues is stuff that is just much easier to have the people experiencing problems check themselves.
So, if you know how to use beta patches and dare to live a little dangerously (I wouldnt attempt ironman on this build tbh in case it ruins your save), and would love to help then check this out. I am not going to promote this patch outside the forum because, well, its beta and not fully supported. If you run into problems, just roll back to default version.




Features
- It is now possible to set a command group to execute orders in different manners: carefully, balanced, and rush.
- Added achievements indicator in game setup telling you if you can get achievements or not
- Now possible to start from scratch with an empty division template by selecting New in the designer drop down]

UI
- Division designer difference indicators now have tooltips showing how much
- Added open air base button to the air mission entry
- Now shift+click on the category in the production will make visible only that category
- Interface tweaks so long texts in other languages does fit in several places
- Added buttons for airwing limit to make easier to adjust values in big steps
- Now navy commander can now also be assigned while fleet is not in the port
- Added tooltip and toggling icon to indicate if current settings let you unlock achievements
- You can now merge fleets that are not in the same location, the merging fleet will then travel to its merge target and then merge with it.
- Now it is possible to assign airplanes to a mission area before the arrive to the new base
- Division template window has now better tooltips for equipment, manpower, training time.
- Clarified "no trading while fighting"-tooltip
- Added yellow highlight to deployment date for units
- Changed string format for convoys in topbar to prevent overflow
- Opinion in interface will now also return a value capped between min and max values
- removed useless decimals in logistics screen
- Logistics screen now show 1 decimal when over 1k

Bugfixes
- Fixed issue when sometimes frontlines was not updated after occupation.
- Now Nation A liberates Nation B if Nation B is friend or giving military access to Nation A, otherwise occupies
- Fixing quiting to menu achivement bug
- Fixed some focus that couldnt be aborted
- Fixed issue where it was impossible to do naval transfers where you have the theatres. Also player couldn't RMB on some naval ports but the systems allowed for the transportation (GUI issue).
- Building cosntruction triggers checked for owned state/province. Now checks for controlled instead
- Added on_action to the add_to_faction effect which should fix lack of achivements for faction joining
- Modified flags for Holland
- Fixed so equipment cost list doesn´t cut of 11th entry in div designer
- Efficiency retention techs now actually help (no efficiency loss at max all techs now!)
- Fixed spelling error in FRA, BRAZ for "Ottowa"-class ship
- Intel overview of nation now also lists airplanes in stockpile
- The political advisor type "Ideological Crusader", which are supposed to increase same ideology opinion with 20%, now has an effect.
- Added custom trigger description depending on type of idea for better tooltips
- Border occupation now account situations when you attack trough the country which is from the same war, but not in the same faction, plus border flip afterwards also account for countries from the same war.
- The game option "Pause on Notifications" now also pauses NF/research.
- Proper data cleanup when kicked, banned, connection lost, server lost.
- Fixed glitch in the front sections calculations, causing sometimes the fronts to be split/malformed.
- Skybox is no longer visible when you toggle UI off
- Changed font on animated map text so it show cryllic and polish characters
- Fixed fighter icon for polish dlc
- Fixed text on Mod tools button in launcher that didn't fit in Spanish
- Kick and ban buttons in mp lobby should now be aligned (important!)
- Maldives now looks a tad better, changed the heightmap, made some of the islands smaller and nudged unit positions
- Fixed script error in Pearl Harbor Gambit focus
- Carrier deck size now matches everywhere.
- No longer allowed to declare war on someone you are fighting a war together with.
- Convoy count in topbar now can show 5 digits
- Fixed Issue where long air region names goes out of dedicated area
- Added triggers to block multiple news event options
- Fixed issue when take all states action did not changed the price when other country puppet the loser
- Drawing offensive orders now takes better choice which def.line to attach the arrow to.
- Added ability to disable debug saves and made them turned off as default
- Added bypass to Pearl Harbor gambit focus for USA
- Fixed malformed frontlines against master/puppet for countries being in faction with the master.
- Disabled the system_debug.log when not running with "-debug" launch option.
- Fixed pausing of the game on the fullscreen
- Patched mysterious issue when airbase was lost and the air wings still remained in void space. Now they are send back to the warehouse.
- Fix for flickering airbase icon in the airbase view
- Nations who are done in a peace deal will no longer give remaining points to anyone in faction, just people with same ideology
- Parts of unit map icons will no longer "trap" the zoom-in with mouse
- Fixed artillery starting with 0 defense
- Now peaceconference saves will happen only with -debug while start up
- Now occupation breakdown updates properly after exiting to main menu
- Fixed occupation rules
- Fixed a bug where you could avoid civil war by inviting back trotsky
- Warscore from bombing is now saved in save game.
- Warscore from bombing is now much lower + added monthly falloff.
- Fixed issues with country rules not clearing properly and not updating every day
- Added special case for showing shortcut icons "," and "."
- Changed price calculation for new divisions so now it does not add up cost for group if it is first group
- Increased modifier that prevents spain from joining axis early
- Fixed bug where a country without the rule of occupying neutral countries could occupy them.
- Fixed the bug when airings manpower was not updated
- King G now only dies once
- Browser now remembers last page
- Naval strikes can now also hit navally transfered troops outside combats
- Added event that allows merges of 2 communist chinas
- Fix for peace conference turns not taking scor einto consideration properly
- Fixed bug where it was possible to send a single unit as exp.force twice!
- Changed a lot of popus to use the definite article
- Fixed a bug that gave USA extra PP for certain NF
- Warscore is no longer added from dropped countries in war merging.
- Trade routes over land now get correct tooltip on day 1


AI
- Tweaked deployment AI to not get crippled when their armies are taking damage.
- Air mission AI is better at prioritizing the most important regions in stead of getting stuck in local optima of groups of regions.
- Tweaked down AI desire for motorized a bit.
- Added scriptable AI strategy to tweak factory assignment to equipment types and SIGNIFICANTLY boosted fighter production.
- Tweaked up AI production balance for infantry equipment.
- Tweaked guarantee desire to go down the more enemies a country has. Should keep Allies from going guarantee crazy while in wars.
- Added a define for min steps for unit controller to strategically redeploy to front location and boosted it from 4 to 8 to reduce lots of small redeployments along fronts.
- Made AI capable of determining if a template was created by them or not. Germany should no longer replace their divisions with templates from Austria.
- Tweaked area defense and pocket handling AI to be better at handling coastal defense.
- Tied countries naval base IC fraction to their naval AI focus, primarily meaning Germany will not be building as many of them, at least initially.
- Improved unitcontrollers capability to recognize when units should join as support in a combat (effects both player and AI).
- The AI now launches naval invasions against the same enemy area at the same time rather than separately.
- Tweaked AI template designing
- Having a common enemy will now make AI very accepting to granting and accepting military access as long as both are democracies.
- Neutral countries now consider guarantees when deciding on which faction it would rather join.
- AI is now properly checking if having common enemy when looking at asking for and granting military access, and is also more eager to do
- Soviet and Germany should no longer bail from the Unholy alliance as soon as they can
- AI containment score no longer goes massively negative if a major is farther away than germany meaning Allies can guarantee vs soviet aggression if they are worse than Germany
- Made non-core states count as half compared to core states when deciding on number of units for area defense.
- Added Women in Aviation to historical focus list for soviet
- Moved Claims in Baltic up the historical focus list for soviet
- Improved AI naval deployment to strategic regions
- Tweaked front assignment AI. Should mean AI is better at multi front wars.
- Further tweaks to AI front assignment to attempt to reduce bad stuff happening in multi front wars.
- Further tweaked the AI front balancing, and made sure France does not completely mess up their Italian front and Germany pushes hard against Poland when war breaks out
- AI should now be able to respond to naval invasions with naval bombers
- Made sure fascist majors are much more likely to go for war economy
- Polish AI will no longer randomly change its ideology by picking ministers
- AI should no longer use garrison divisions as infantry.
- Changed trigger condition for UK focus Benelux Intervention to require a bit more fascist/communist support, preventing the AI from taking it immediately.
- Naval AI will now deploy all its fleets (previously it would generally deploy less than 1/3 of all its ships). AI will now split fleets it cannot find a mission for, allowing it to spread them out better
- AI is now able to set naval bombers to try to prevent others from sending reinforcements over water.
- Tweaked AI down prio of non war/dangerous fronts.
- AI will no longer guarantee against leaders of other naughty factions (like soviet) if there is a much much worse faction around doing bad stuff (Axis)
- AI nations will no longer spam you with requests for military access at game start and nations who would rather occupy someone than liberate wont ask for military access
- AI can now feed puppets/liberated/change government countries with states in peace conferences giving much saner outcomes
- Made sure unitcontroller does not interfere with retreating units.


Database & Balance
- Changed German democratic party to Zentrum
- NF completion for Poland 39 start
- Fixed spanish communist crusader using male portrait
- Focus Lessons of War and Sov-Ger research agreement now give less armor research
- Added AFG leader portrait Zahir Shah, VEN leader portrait Lopez Contreras and 3 new middle eastern generic portraits
- Replaced incorrect japanese general
- Added Xi'an to PRC
- Added straits to denmark to make them more surrendermonkeys [Balance]
- Several name corrections in OOB files
- Province 3860 is now a part of state 527 instead of 328. (Manchuria/Korea)
- Added an event to move PRC capital to Beijing or Nanjing after Chinese Civil War.
- Added a requirement of more than 15% world tension to War Economy policy.
- Removed Hungarian claims from Northern Transylvania and Vojvodina
- Removed generic Tank Designer idea from Canada.
- Moved Sao Paulo to be part of the Sao Paulo state.
- Found a better Serbian fascist party leader.
- Adjustment to Paraguay and Nicaraguan political 36 and 39 starts.
- Republican Spain and Nationalist Spain now have the same National Unity
- Added more ai_choice triggers for Czechoslovakia's response to German demands.
- Added localisation for Libyan adjectives
- Changed names for neutral Nicaragua and Paraguay
- Fixed Finland starting as democratic in 1939
- Added ENG cores to French cores when Anglo-French Union happens
- If the Munich agreement can't happen (depending on various wars for GER or CZE) CZE will now get a different event about ceding the Sudetenland or giving GER a wargoal.
- Soviet now gets one armor research bonus and one land doctrine, rather than three armor research.
- Fate of Czechoslovakia now correctly adds claims and an annex CB if CZE resists GER.
- Fixed text overflow in Balearic Islands headline.
- Expanded the final event for RAJ's Azad Hind, and added several removal points for the Azad Hind idea.
- Removed eng core from state 687-British Guyana
- Added fixedsize to countrystate view state owner and foreign claims
- Fixed heightmap error on denmark
- Fixed so all building in the maldives are on land again
- German march order music now has correct path
- State name corrections.
- Added names for (unreleased) country tags.
- Lowered time for Demand Balearic islands for Italy
- Moved capital of Brazil to Rio
- Subdue the Warlords now requires that China does not exist or is a puppet of Japan
- Johnson Island Garrison renamed to Johnston Island Garrison
- Corrected JAP_1939 unit history.
- Fixed a bug where an achievement wouldn't fire because of it was using any_country trigger
- Soviet foci New Soviet Man and Women in Aviation have switched places
- Added general to Ireland
- Nerfed skill 5 generals for BRA AST AFG CAN
- Changed German Admirals traits for variety
- Bumped population of some of the smaller islands
- Changed ideology of country leader for DEN FIN FRA NOR SWE
- Changed start trade to use factories instead of specific amount of factories for trade
- Increased air range on rocket interceptors now that local coverage isnt always 100%
- Mass assault doctrine now gets -10% lower requirement on training for deploying divisions
- Political parties and leaders for Brazil. From forum.
- Great depression now limits faction joining at an extra 20%
- Human pause now has a superior priority to the automatic pause
- Fixed issue with fleet splitting failing because it forgot to assign base
- Now state controller switches properly after capitulation
- Added 3 new generic asian stateleader portraits and 2 new generic asian warlord portraits
- Added 6 new generic Arabian portraits
- Sheng Shicai got a minor facelift
- USA now gets a slightly different shade of blue to differentiate them from france
- Fixed inconsistent finnish flags
- Added additional flags for Jordan

Stability & Performance
- Will no longer overwrite ironman saves if writing of current failed
- Optimizations for air interface and mapmode
- Parser now handles large tokens without crashing on savegame load
- Optimization for releasing countries
- Fixed several memory leaks
- Fixed CTD for airwing transfer when base in invalid
- Fix for potential CTD in splitting navy when you have no home base.
- Fixed rare ctd when loading an old savegame from ingame with active naval combats
- Fixed several rare CTDs

User Modding
- Added possibility to script in historical aces in name pools
- Moved dynamic country tags into a separate file
- Manpower in field trigger no longer counts expeditionary forces from other nations
- Fixed issues with tooltip for ships in port trigger
- Added defines to tweak unit assignment importance for different kinds of orders.
- Added possibility to script desired amount of factories to spend on a trade
- Fixed crash from default bookmark being later than 1936
- Added add_ai_strategy effect
- In debug mode the country flag tooltip will now show AI strategy values
- Fixed map icon crash from having more than 128 country capitals in view

Multiplayer
- Supplysystem should now update for all players when changing country controller (OOS fix)
- Observers no longer get asked for co-op acces as well as main player


So how do I get this?
1. In steam right click the game in the list of games and pick Properties
2. Go to the Betas tab
3. in the drop-down select 1.1.0_beta (if it doesnt appear you might have to restart steam)
4. Close Properties. Steam should now queue up an update and will display the game in the list as Hearts of Iron IV [1.1.0_beta]
5. if all went well the last bit of the version number in launcher should display "(c285)" which should be the correct checksum
6. Once we go official you can just remove the beta branch and go back to main by doing this again and selecting NONE.

[jamus34]

So here I was trying to conquer  Sinkiang...and I didn't realize that a country can join a faction after it is at war.

They declared to Comintern...and that was that...I was not ready to poke the Bear at that point and they marched right through me.

ON to the next game with lessons learned.

[jomni]

So here I was trying to conquer  Sinkiang...and I didn't realize that a country can join a faction after it is at war.

They declared to Comintern...and that was that...I was not ready to poke the Bear at that point and they marched right through me.

ON to the next game with lessons learned.

Yeah Nationalist China did that on me.  Joined Allies (as stated above).  Now our local war is now part of the world war.  And we (Comintern) are losing against the Free World.

[Con]

Trying to play as Italy my earlier failures where getting swatted out of the sky by thousands of allied planes.  Now I am trying to focus on air superiority and am trying to determine the following

1. Go for 1940 fighters onlyas soon as possible
2. Go for a mix of some early heavy fighters and hordes of 1940 fighters
3. Double down and focus on getting 1940 heavy fighters and 1940 fighters and just build these

What do people prefer to try and win the air wars?

Con

[acctingman]

Just wondering how you all are setting up your divisions?

[jomni]

So my country has capitulated to Nationalist China.  But the war is still on.  Watching Soviet Union fight off the rest of the world.
The funny thing is, I can still play.  My guys are still making research breakthroughs (Nuclear).  And I was able to assign my fighters to Moscow to help the Soviets.
I'm even still plotting coups on Nationalist China.  Who knows?  I may still regain my country after the Peace talks.  Then I'll blow up everyone with nukes.

[Ian C]

Regarding the new patch, I particularly welcome these changes:


You now need to give someone military access to walk through your land. there is no auto access for having same enemy (so no soviets in allied territory)


It is now possible to set a command group to execute orders in different manners: carefully, balanced, and rush.

Now possible to start from scratch with an empty division template by selecting New in the designer drop down

Now shift+click on the category in the production will make visible only that category

Added buttons for airwing limit to make easier to adjust values in big steps

Now navy commander can now also be assigned while fleet is not in the port

You can now merge fleets that are not in the same location, the merging fleet will then travel to its merge target and then merge with it.

Now it is possible to assign airplanes to a mission area before the arrive to the new base

Added scriptable AI strategy to tweak factory assignment to equipment types and SIGNIFICANTLY boosted fighter production.

Made AI capable of determining if a template was created by them or not. Germany should no longer replace their divisions with templates from Austria.

Tweaked area defense and pocket handling AI to be better at handling coastal defense.

The AI now launches naval invasions against the same enemy area at the same time rather than separately.

Improved AI naval deployment to strategic regions

AI is better at multi front wars

Naval strikes can now also hit navally transfered troops outside combats

AI should now be able to respond to naval invasions with naval bombers

AI is now able to set naval bombers to try to prevent others from sending reinforcements over water.