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Started by republic, October 28, 2013, 06:25:38 AM

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JudgeDredd

I would think from a sim like DCS, ultimately the complete immersion would be that you learn all the controls in the cockpit and fly by clicking buttons...either with the mouse, or with (as suggested) gloves or even just the controls.

That's a big ask - but they are study sims and at least from an immersion perspective, that would be as close as anyone is going to get to sitting in a Hawg.

On the other hand, it might just not be practical for an "keyboard heavy" game
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JudgeDredd

That "Tron" image sounds very cool. :coolsmiley:
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Pete Dero

Quote from: JudgeDredd on September 23, 2016, 05:00:15 AM
I would think from a sim like DCS, ultimately the complete immersion would be that you learn all the controls in the cockpit and fly by clicking buttons...either with the mouse, or with (as suggested) gloves or even just the controls.

I think that knowing your way around in the clickable cockpit might even be easier than remembering all those key commands.

I don't know how you click those buttons in VR but if this is easily done than you can fly DCS without the need for a keyboard (at least in single player - you can check your flightplan in the cockpit).
I'm not sure how you can take notes if needed in multiplayer (a virtual notepad ?)

Nefaro

Quote from: Pete Dero on September 23, 2016, 06:45:30 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on September 23, 2016, 05:00:15 AM
I would think from a sim like DCS, ultimately the complete immersion would be that you learn all the controls in the cockpit and fly by clicking buttons...either with the mouse, or with (as suggested) gloves or even just the controls.

I think that knowing your way around in the clickable cockpit might even be easier than remembering all those key commands.

I don't know how you click those buttons in VR but if this is easily done than you can fly DCS without the need for a keyboard (at least in single player - you can check your flightplan in the cockpit).
I'm not sure how you can take notes if needed in multiplayer (a virtual notepad ?)


Well... some DCS.   Many of the current multi-role fighters in the game have the "standard" avionics modelling.  Which means no clickable 'pits. 

I imagine something like an "air mouse" glove, with it's gyroscopic movement built in, would be ideal for the ones with advanced pits.  Although they would still probably be a bit bulky.  Plus, I seem to recall the odd keyboard command not having a working virtual cockpit hot spot in an aircraft or two.  IIRC, things like the door hatch on the Ka-50.


To me, it sounds like the manufacturers just need to create a version with an open section at the bottom, with a flip cover for opening/closing.  I'm sure some solutions will show up in newer generations of VR.  Ahhh capitalism!  ^-^

JudgeDredd

Yeah - I was specifically referring to their "study sim" range - which was mentioned in another post but not the one quoted  :)
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Millipede

In addition to the F-5E, Matt Wagner talks about where DCS is going in regard to VR. The whole video is cool but the VR discussion is in the first 10 minutes or so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMyfrcM5Plg

JudgeDredd

Yet another email from DCS telling me there's a campaign available for the A-10 - a training campaign to learn the systems and yet again, I find out it's 1.5 only.

I would have thought a training campaign would've been ideal for what the Nevada map was meant to be - a training tool!  :knuppel2:
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Nefaro

Quote from: JudgeDredd on September 30, 2016, 04:04:34 PM
Yet another email from DCS telling me there's a campaign available for the A-10 - a training campaign to learn the systems and yet again, I find out it's 1.5 only.

I would have thought a training campaign would've been ideal for what the Nevada map was meant to be - a training tool!  :knuppel2:

Work on 2.0, and it's only current map (Nevada), has been slow to progress. 

I'll just blame it on them splitting their efforts too much between the WW2 map/planes and the bulk of their content (modern jets/maps).  Still think they should've just stuck with what they had going and left the WW2 stuff to the other guys.

Fortunately they've still been updating v1.5 so I'm fine using that for now.  With their efforts spread out so much, I imagine it will be the standard for awhile to come.  At least we're not forced to run the unfinished v2.0 and be Beta Testers.   :)


Nefaro

I'm preparing to get back into a flight sim.  Likely DCS v1.5 and it's multi-player, after getting reacquainted.



Anyway... for getting in the mood, I bring some baudy pilot songs from a pair of Viper pilots.  Hilarious.   :2funny:   ;D


(warning:  There Will Be Language!)



















Tuna

Our first excursion into MP today  8)


Nefaro

Quote from: Tuna on October 13, 2016, 01:03:02 PM
Our first excursion into MP today  8)







That fireball in the grass is me.   ;D


My throttle was backwards.  So, after starting my engines, I shot straight out of the parking area and through the grass.  On afterburner.

:))


After two tries I got it fixed.

But the in-game key mapping didn't work on my DCS client.  So I still have to exit to main menu and use the Settings there.  :-\

Tuna

Actually that was the 'end' the landing where the Nose Steering didn't turn off.. Looked awesome like a Rail Dragster wiping out!

When we did get up in the air, I was a lot slower than Nef (due to extra fuel tanks).. So I put on the afterburners and thought I was following and catching up with him, because I caught some contrails off in the distance after initially losing visual.. I catch up, and notice he's awful big!, and there's a rotating disk on the top.. Guess I was escorting the AWACs plane.  :crazy2:

At least we both 'landed' at the same time.. sort of.

Nefaro

Quote from: Tuna on October 13, 2016, 03:19:00 PM
Actually that was the 'end' the landing where the Nose Steering didn't turn off.. Looked awesome like a Rail Dragster wiping out!

When we did get up in the air, I was a lot slower than Nef (due to extra fuel tanks).. So I put on the afterburners and thought I was following and catching up with him, because I caught some contrails off in the distance after initially losing visual.. I catch up, and notice he's awful big!, and there's a rotating disk on the top.. Guess I was escorting the AWACs plane.  :crazy2:

At least we both 'landed' at the same time.. sort of.




Found out my Nose Wheel Steering problem, too, after you left.

Instead of having it's Disengage command mapped, I had some other nose wheel command set to my pinky switch.  Whatever it previously was, it was something you don't want to use while taking off or landing!   :))


Hopefully no more button mapping surprises in store.   :uglystupid2:

Tuna

Well I got my first MP kill.. Too bad it was a friendly. But at least it was Nef!.. oh well.. torp friends in WoW... Splash my friends in DCS!

Tuna

Me n Nef on the tarmac ready to start a mission. Of course Murphy's law. the server restarted as soon as we finally hooked up in the sky.