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Nefaro

#840
January 27, 2018, 06:25:04 PM
Some informative Q&A with Wags regarding new & planned features in v2.5:

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/01/26/the-flare-path-jets-jungle-and-jack-yards/

Something I've not heard of before - plans to add integrated persistent multi-player campaign features.   :coolsmiley:

QuoteRPS: MBot's dynamic campaigns for DCS World seem popular. Have they influenced ED's thinking at all?

Matt: While we certainly applaud his efforts, we have much bigger plans for DCS World on this front. We are pursuing much more ambitious plans that incorporate community, cause-and-effect continuity, strategic and tactical goals, player performance tracking and rewards, and accounting for time periods.

A bit too early to go into more detail, but this is very much a high priority for us moving forward post-2.5.

Yskonyn

#841
January 28, 2018, 01:38:59 AM
Something to look forward to in 2030! 😜
"Pilots do not get paid for what they do daily, but they get paid for what they are capable of doing.
However, if pilots would need to do daily what they are capable of doing, nobody would dare to fly anymore."

Nefaro

#842
January 28, 2018, 03:47:29 PM
Quote from: Yskonyn on January 28, 2018, 01:38:59 AM
Something to look forward to in 2030! 😜

;)   :2funny:

Toonces

#843
January 29, 2018, 07:22:12 AM
Seriously.   ::)

Welcome to 1998, DCS!
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JudgeDredd

#844
January 29, 2018, 05:43:55 PM
I have absolutely zero willpower - and I'm ok with that  :buck2:

Alba gu' brath

Toonces

#845
January 29, 2018, 07:48:04 PM
It's going to be fantastic.  I'm stoked for you.  I'll be getting this at some point, but I need to wait for DCS to stabilize a bit.  I just don't play it enough to keep up with the patches and such.
"If you had a chance, right now, to go back in time and stop Hitler, wouldn't you do it?  I mean, I personally wouldn't stop him because I think he's awesome." - Eric Cartman

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RyanE

#846
January 29, 2018, 07:55:45 PM
As real life planes evolve with new capabilities, does DCS update the in game planes?  Or is this one of those things where the planes take so long to develop that they are out of date immediately.

Nefaro

#847
January 29, 2018, 11:19:41 PM Last Edit: January 29, 2018, 11:21:52 PM by Nefaro
Quote from: RyanE on January 29, 2018, 07:55:45 PM
As real life planes evolve with new capabilities, does DCS update the in game planes?  Or is this one of those things where the planes take so long to develop that they are out of date immediately.

The aircraft models are snapshots in time.  They model a specific model at a specific time, or stretch of history.

From what I've gathered, they don't do the fully featured aircraft unless they have access to all the data on them.  So they end up creating versions which have either had their systems and flight info declassified or have been given permission to use the manufacturer's info & such.

For example, the F-18 module will be based on an F/A-18C from around the mid-2000s period.  The developers got permission, and have partnered with Boeing (the current manufacturer/owner) to get all the info they need to simulate the aircraft.

As an opposite comparison, they reportedly wanted to do a MiG-23 module but the Russian gov't slammed the door on that because they wanted to keep some of the data classified despite it's age. 

JudgeDredd

#848
January 30, 2018, 01:38:34 AM
IIRC DCS have said in the past they wouldn't make a model unless they had access to all the data to make a full representation of the aircraft.

I don't know if they've ever changed or strayed from that statement.
Alba gu' brath

JudgeDredd

#849
January 30, 2018, 01:40:39 AM
Quote from: Toonces on January 29, 2018, 07:48:04 PM
It's going to be fantastic.  I'm stoked for you.  I'll be getting this at some point, but I need to wait for DCS to stabilize a bit.  I just don't play it enough to keep up with the patches and such.
imo, $20 was quite a saving and I would be buying it anyway. It didn't make sense to not pre-purchase.
Alba gu' brath

Skoop

#850
January 30, 2018, 02:38:55 PM
^ Me too...been a long time coming, can't wait.  Flying the harrier in the meantime.  You could just buy the hornet and never buy any other aircraft in dcs, it does a little of everything well.  I'll probably fly nothing else until they make dcs f-16 or a mudhen.

RyanE

#851
January 30, 2018, 02:48:29 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on January 29, 2018, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: RyanE on January 29, 2018, 07:55:45 PM
As real life planes evolve with new capabilities, does DCS update the in game planes?  Or is this one of those things where the planes take so long to develop that they are out of date immediately.

The aircraft models are snapshots in time.  They model a specific model at a specific time, or stretch of history.

From what I've gathered, they don't do the fully featured aircraft unless they have access to all the data on them.  So they end up creating versions which have either had their systems and flight info declassified or have been given permission to use the manufacturer's info & such.

For example, the F-18 module will be based on an F/A-18C from around the mid-2000s period.  The developers got permission, and have partnered with Boeing (the current manufacturer/owner) to get all the info they need to simulate the aircraft.

As an opposite comparison, they reportedly wanted to do a MiG-23 module but the Russian gov't slammed the door on that because they wanted to keep some of the data classified despite it's age.

I would think this limits the ability to broaden the WW2 aircraft.  There were dozens of veriosn of Me-109s and Fw-190s.  I don't think there aren't many of them flying.

Jarhead0331

#852
January 30, 2018, 02:55:27 PM
Quote from: Skoop on January 30, 2018, 02:38:55 PM
^ Me too...been a long time coming, can't wait.  Flying the harrier in the meantime.  You could just buy the hornet and never buy any other aircraft in dcs, it does a little of everything well.  I'll probably fly nothing else until they make dcs f-16 or a mudhen.

:2funny: As if! And monkeys might fly out of my butt!
Grogheads Uber Alles
Semper Grog
"No beast is more alpha than JH." Gusington, 10/23/18

Jarhead0331

#853
January 30, 2018, 07:50:33 PM
...aaaaaaannnd 2.5.0 is out! Install detected 2.0 Alpha and asked if I wanted to move files and delete. So far, install was seemless.

Cover my 6. I'm going in.
Grogheads Uber Alles
Semper Grog
"No beast is more alpha than JH." Gusington, 10/23/18

Nefaro

#854
January 30, 2018, 11:04:01 PM
Guess I started downloading later than some.  Took 6 hours to get the extra ~17GB downloaded.  Alright, though, as I didn't plan on firing it up for a day or two anyway.

Had to do the command line start on the updater to force the open beta download.

They put out a new official vid for 2.5.  Pretty  :coolsmiley: :

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