https://store.steampowered.com/app/1047210/Cold_War_Game/
About This Game
Cold War Game - a real-time tactical strategy (RTT) that simulates interaction of various types of troops. Command your troops, show your martial ingenuity and complete all tasks.
In the 1970-80s, the world was divided into two camps. Ideological systems are at the peak of military, economic and geopolitical confrontation. The arms race is getting up to the highest boiling-point. The parties threaten each other in various ways - from deployment of ballistic missiles in the allied countries to strategic defense initiative in space. During this time difficult negotiations are underway to reduce all types of weapons. Let's simulate what could happen if the parties did not find a common language?
In our game, as alternative history we propose choosing a side in a hypothetical conflict between two competing blocs led by the USSR and the USA.
Actions deploy on the territory of divided Germany in the 1970s.
PLACE OF ACTIONS: GERMANY 1970s
Realize your military tactical conception on large maps of divided Germany of the 1970s, based on historical cartography. Competently use your tactical advantages of the position.
CO-OPERATION AND INTERACTION BETWEEN VARIOUS TYPES OF TROOPS
In the battle do not forget about interaction between various types of troops: cover your ground troops with aviation, defend against air raids with air defense, scout enemy positions, strike enemy troops' gatherings by artillery and replenish ammunition in time.
HISTORICALLY ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF MACHINERY AND EQUIPMENT APPEARANCE
More than 50 highly detailed 3D-models of military machinery and equipment have been transferred to your command.
ADVANCED DAMAGE MULTIFACTOR MODEL
Our game has an advanced system of registration of equipment damage instead of a health-bar (life-bar). Panzer vehicle schemes correspond to real prototypes. Our algorithms take into account the thickness, type and inclination of the armoured sheets when calculating the damage. The damage mode calculation counts the nearness of the hit to the place of a crew, engine, ammunition and chassis. Class of ammunition, the firing distance and the angle of impact – all that counts in the model. Thanks to this, the planning of tactical maneuvers can destroy enemy superior in strength.
At first glance it looks like a Wargame game clone which really isn't a bad thing. EA release will be next Month.
Heh, I was about to say can't you include the damn name of the game in the thread title? Then I realised it actually is called...Cold War Game. ::)
Anyway, yeah, it does look very reminiscent of Eugen Systems games. Which is great!
I would say "very reminiscent" is an understatement. It looks exactly like the Eugen system titles and seems to follow the same naming conventions. Eugen gave us "wargame", these guys are giving us "Cold Wargame". :idiot2:
Yikes. Is this an asset flip? I've not heard of the developer.
It looks like Eugen all right.
WTF?
I hope its a quality product.
I really wish Eugen would have made a Wargame WW2, instead they went with SD1/2 which aren't near as popular. They have also stated they are indeed done with the Wargame series.
On EA release in November will be skirmish mode against the AI only, multiplayer wont be added until on down the road.
That title is uh, hm.
Quote from: al_infierno on October 07, 2019, 09:52:56 PM
That title is uh, hm.
Provocative?
That's what I'd call it.
After looking at this it's hard to imagine they aren't using some assets from Eugen.
It goes beyond similar style.
They don't seem to be advertising any kind of licencing or partnership, so I'm wondering if some controversy might be afoot.
I'm not the best investigator in the world, but I thought I'd be able to find some kind of listing for a company called 'Room 301'.
Since we're making Eugen connections I thought this might be another French company but unless I'm looking in the wrong place, there's no company with that name registered with the French authorities that govern these things (leaving a wide margin for error there).
Certainly not a UK company, at least. Haven't check America yet.
It certainly looks similar, although the graphics seem to be of a better quality than the original Wargame, which is, what, at least half a decade old now?
They've certainly copied the style to a large degree, whether they've done more than that I think is just speculation at this point.
My understanding is that this developer is Russian.
Official website...
https://vk.com/coldwg (https://vk.com/coldwg)
Couple of other things are catching my attention. No crew in the helicopters and no fixed wing aircraft...meh.
Out for early access. $34.99.
Surprised they would release during the summer sale event.
In general I have mixed feelings about the WG series, but I'm surprised at how annoyed I am that these guys just ripped it off so blatantly. I was watching a video of a preview build on youtube, and everything about it looked the exact same as WG. I think the guy playing the preview's only comment was that the models looked much better than WG... which should hardly be surprising as the last WG title came out six years ago.
Quote from: hellfish6 on July 02, 2020, 08:19:53 AM
In general I have mixed feelings about the WG series, but I'm surprised at how annoyed I am that these guys just ripped it off so blatantly.
+1
I mean, this looks like 'theft of intellectual property' lawsuit-level copying.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on July 02, 2020, 06:28:14 AM
Out for early access. $34.99.
Surprised they would release during the summer sale event.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand its off steam already :2funny:
I made my opinion known about this title in another thread here, but to quickly recap, I'm all for more games set during the Cold War because I am extremely interested in that time period. However, Cold War Game was more of an insult than anything. All of the assets and features are ripped from other games, not just Wargame. Some of the sound files for the Soviet voices are taken straight out of World in Conflict for example.
There is a good way to go about taking inspiration from previous games (Regiments appears to do this very well, being somewhat of a hybrid of features from Wargame and World in Conflict while still being its own game) and I'm all for that. But blatantly ripping other games is just wrong. I'm honestly glad to see it go.
Hmmm. Glad I did not put any money on steam yet.
If their were specific assets and the engine etc stolen then I understand it. But if it was just another game in the same vein the same as command and conquer clones used to be or movies then I don't. The cold war is the cold war, It's history and free domain. So are terrain sizes. What would you say if another total war competitor turned up with battles inside of a campaign map set in rome? Is it only ripping something off when it has thus far been unique?
What exactly was stolen? From memory you were saying some of the voice overs?
I watched a YouTube clip of gameplay in which I heard Soviet infantry say lines literally straight out of World in Conflict. Another person I talked to said the helicopter pilot lines were also ripped from Wargame: European Escalation.
I am not making the argument that only one game can cover one time period or anything absurd like that. Nor am I making the argument that games cannot share similar features. After all, games sharing similar features is how genre's are created. First person shooters are largely similar in overall mechanics and experience, but most of them have the decency to create their own artwork, lines, stories, etc to fill out the single FPS feature. Cold War Game clearly did not do that. It is a carbon copy of Wargame with ripped assets from it and other games covering a similar time period. Aside from some minor paintjob differences and a new engine (unreal apparently) I honestly cannot see the difference between it and Wargame.
Here's the thing too; if they had created this game with the Wargame dev's blessing in some way, I would be fine with it. As I said, I want more Cold War games because it is one of my all time favorite periods of military history, and because there are so few games right now that cover that era. But I cannot support something that is so sleazy.
And for what its worth, I think Regiments is a very promising game. That is a great example of a game that draws some very clear inspiration from other games (Wargame, Company of Heroes, and World in Conflct) but does it in its own way. I'm very excited to see how Regiments develops as it gets closer to its Fall release date, and I'm hoping that it is successful enough to prompt more studios to work on more games set in that era. Sea Power also gets an honorable mention in this category as well. There are great new games being developed right now that are either direct sequels to, or directly inspired by past amazing games, and I'm all for it. The way Cold War Games decided to go was the wrong way.
Was just going to mention this, game was only on Steam a few hours before it up and vanished like a fart in the wind.
Would Steam be responsible for its removal?
Or did Eugen sic their dogs on em?
Quote from: IICptMillerII on July 03, 2020, 01:10:12 AM
I watched a YouTube clip of gameplay in which I heard Soviet infantry say lines literally straight out of World in Conflict. Another person I talked to said the helicopter pilot lines were also ripped from Wargame: European Escalation.
I am not making the argument that only one game can cover one time period or anything absurd like that. Nor am I making the argument that games cannot share similar features. After all, games sharing similar features is how genre's are created. First person shooters are largely similar in overall mechanics and experience, but most of them have the decency to create their own artwork, lines, stories, etc to fill out the single FPS feature. Cold War Game clearly did not do that. It is a carbon copy of Wargame with ripped assets from it and other games covering a similar time period. Aside from some minor paintjob differences and a new engine (unreal apparently) I honestly cannot see the difference between it and Wargame.
Here's the thing too; if they had created this game with the Wargame dev's blessing in some way, I would be fine with it. As I said, I want more Cold War games because it is one of my all time favorite periods of military history, and because there are so few games right now that cover that era. But I cannot support something that is so sleazy.
And for what its worth, I think Regiments is a very promising game. That is a great example of a game that draws some very clear inspiration from other games (Wargame, Company of Heroes, and World in Conflct) but does it in its own way. I'm very excited to see how Regiments develops as it gets closer to its Fall release date, and I'm hoping that it is successful enough to prompt more studios to work on more games set in that era. Sea Power also gets an honorable mention in this category as well. There are great new games being developed right now that are either direct sequels to, or directly inspired by past amazing games, and I'm all for it. The way Cold War Games decided to go was the wrong way.
Thanks mate. I hope they come back with whatever it is fixed, but not at the expense of wargame. I own every tiny little bit of Eugen's stuff and love them to death. So I have some loyalty that way for sure.
As for Regiments. No multiplayer means no dice for me. I am a social creature when it comes to gaming.