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Title: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: Anguille on September 19, 2021, 01:50:22 PM


New game by Haemimont Games  8)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1084160/Jagged_Alliance_3/
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: al_infierno on September 19, 2021, 02:10:17 PM
I thought this thread looked familiar :buck2:

http://www.grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=25891.0

As others have mentioned, I'm cautiously optimistic.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: Anguille on September 20, 2021, 02:01:03 AM
Quote from: al_infierno on September 19, 2021, 02:10:17 PM
I thought this thread looked familiar :buck2:

http://www.grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=25891.0

As others have mentioned, I'm cautiously optimistic.
My bad  :hide:

I've always had fun with games from Haemimont even though they are not perfect.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 13, 2023, 08:42:27 AM
Releases tomorrow....some reviews are in, I know IGN isn't often reliable, but they gave it a 9/10.  Sounds like it might be good for me, lot of options and seems not overly complicated.  I did pre order so will try this weekend.

Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: Gusington on July 13, 2023, 09:03:06 AM
Loitering with intent on this one, although I have never played any of the other games.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: undercovergeek on July 13, 2023, 09:29:03 AM
Quote from: Gusington on July 13, 2023, 09:03:06 AMLoitering with intent on this one, although I have never played any of the other games.

Also loitering

Played the one everyone is supposed to 1.13(?) without realising it was a lot deeper than shoot these guys and collect money

I'm not one of those 'you can never recreate the original' purists - as long as it's a good game its pedigree doesn't concern me
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: devoncop on July 13, 2023, 09:45:01 AM
The couple of folk I have seen on You Tube seem to be pretty impressed with it which give the steaming pile of excrement some of the earlier attempts to cash in on JA2 came up with sounds really encouraging.

The UI is not the best from what they have said and what I have seen but other than that it looks a lot of fun in a Wasteland 3 type of way when it comes to tactical combat. It isn't overrun with trying to show how politically correct it is either which as I am an unreconstructed dinosaur is a huge plus for me in this day and age.

Looks to be one to pick up I think.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: JasonPratt on July 13, 2023, 10:05:00 AM
Quote from: Gusington on July 13, 2023, 09:03:06 AMLoitering with intent on this one...

Somehow I read that as loining / moistering with intent...  :HideEyes:
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: Gusington on July 13, 2023, 10:19:32 AM
Same thing.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: SirAndrewD on July 13, 2023, 10:36:04 AM
I pre ordered some time ago.

I'm ready for some 3rd World exploitation.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 13, 2023, 11:33:09 AM
First game I pre ordered in years.  Where's my damned key?
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: CJReich46 on July 13, 2023, 11:59:52 AM
DasTactic is doing a stream right now on Twitch with Jagged Alliance 3.

But I will be waiting for release and waiting.

Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 13, 2023, 12:26:02 PM
Bah.  Release date moved back a day.  Boooo
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: devoncop on July 13, 2023, 12:40:54 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 13, 2023, 12:26:02 PMBah.  Release date moved back a day.  Boooo

The stream I saw mentioned a decent sized release day patch was due so they may be incorporating that prior to release which is to be applauded.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 13, 2023, 01:02:46 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 13, 2023, 12:26:02 PMBah.  Release date moved back a day.  Boooo

Where do you see that as I still see July 14th which has always been the date.  Would be odd to release on a Saturday if pushed back a day.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: SirAndrewD on July 13, 2023, 01:16:06 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on July 13, 2023, 01:02:46 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 13, 2023, 12:26:02 PMBah.  Release date moved back a day.  Boooo

Where do you see that as I still see July 14th which has always been the date.  Would be odd to release on a Saturday if pushed back a day.

Yeah, I'm still showing July 14 with no Steam announcement.  It'd be unheard of to release on a Saturday.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 13, 2023, 01:19:14 PM
I bought mine from GMG.  They had a release date of July 13 listed.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: SirAndrewD on July 13, 2023, 01:24:30 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 13, 2023, 01:19:14 PMI bought mine from GMG.  They had a release date of July 13 listed.

Gotcha.  Weird. 

Steam's said July 14 since the start.  Maybe they were accounting for different time zones.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 13, 2023, 01:33:49 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 13, 2023, 01:19:14 PMI bought mine from GMG.  They had a release date of July 13 listed.

Weird as I bought from gmg as well and thought always the 14th.......maybe a time zone thing
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: JasonPratt on July 13, 2023, 07:23:53 PM
Maybe the difference amounts to the Steam sale? -- which ended on July 13th (today), near noon.

Steam definitely says the 14th, 12:31:32 remaining at this moment. So 8am Central Standard Time.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 14, 2023, 06:56:50 AM
Unlocks in an hour or so, although work will prevent it from being played until later tonight:)  GMG hasn't sent out their keys yet, but they are usually pretty good sending them out right before the release time, or shortly there after.  Continue to look at many reviews and impressions, so far they continue to be very positive....hope the game holds up to those expectations.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: devoncop on July 14, 2023, 11:29:52 AM
Mixed reviews on Steam almost all relate to janky multi player....This is of zero interest to me in this sort of game so I am not worried but for those who are looking for that in this title it's something to be aware of.

Will pick this up tomorrow I think.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: SirAndrewD on July 14, 2023, 11:57:01 AM
I'll dig into it a bit later today.

I'm not going to get too worked up on early reviews.  There were a very vocal number of people that had been in the Steam forums already making it every clear that they were unhappy with the game's X-Com like direction and intended to review bomb it before the return window closed.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: devoncop on July 14, 2023, 12:31:53 PM
After stating I was waiting until tomorrow to buy it I am now downloading it as I type.£23 seems a reasonable price.

I agree totally re the early reviews.

Negative review because there is no German voice acting for the characters 🙄🙄🙄 Negative review because no Chinese regionalisation 🙄🙄🙄.

Last time I checked the Chinese are not exactly backward in IT so I am sure there are software companies over there with content in Chinese....the same goes for Germany. (Rant over)

Looking forward to my first dive into the Jagged Alliance franchise in a couple of hours time.
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Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: SirAndrewD on July 14, 2023, 02:19:00 PM
First impressions on the first mission are good here.

I don't get what everyone complaining is saying about the UI being weird and hard to read or there being performance issues.  See none of that here.  Admittedly I'm running it on a 4090.

And yeah, it's very heavily X-Com influenced which I find a good thing.  I think it's  a better fit than the old queued real time system and so far it feels very comfortable and easy to get into. 

Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 14, 2023, 02:21:56 PM
Had a hard crash about 15 minutes in.  Not sure why.  Doing a file integrity check and updating GFX drivers.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: W8taminute on July 14, 2023, 02:30:30 PM
If there is one thing I find annoying it is having to filter out all the complaints about games not being in a language of such and such a playerbase.  I get it but I hate how those reviews skew actual gameplay reviews which might all be positive but the final score is dragged down to trash.

Back on topic.  It's good to see all of the positive feedback so far from grogs.  I will most likely end up picking up this game at some point. 
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: devoncop on July 14, 2023, 02:32:07 PM
Played about an hour. Cleared the first sector. Fox got shot up pretty bad as I was learning the mechanics and as I am already smitten with her I obviously had to use all oy meds to heal her up (always a soft touch :grin: ).

So far loving the atmosphere and the different personality of the 4 mercs I have chosen....Looking like awinner to me as I get more familiar with the options. Hacking for intel and scouting operations are really useful as they reveal locations of enemies/stashes/ safer routes in the adjacent regions you need to conquer next.

No technical issues at all but I went into the set up options and reset FPS to 60FPS...for some odd reason the default is 240FPS which may be causing some folk problems.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: SirAndrewD on July 14, 2023, 02:40:37 PM
Don't let Fox die!   :smitten:  :smitten:  :smitten:

And yes I immediately found the FPS cap.   That would've been bad leaving that to max. 
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 14, 2023, 02:52:32 PM
Yeah, I lowered the FPS cap to 120 and haven't had a 2nd crash.

Thrilled to see Grunty back in the game.  Devastated that he refused to work for me until I get rid of the scrubs in my squad.

Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: SirAndrewD on July 14, 2023, 02:58:24 PM
Another tip easily missed. 

Spend the $7k and build a Merc with the personality test in the laptop.

The built Merc is "you" and doesn't require a weekly upkeep.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: devoncop on July 14, 2023, 03:25:09 PM
Quote from: SirAndrewD on July 14, 2023, 02:58:24 PMAnother tip easily missed. 

Spend the $7k and build a Merc with the personality test in the laptop.

The built Merc is "you" and doesn't require a weekly upkeep.


"Easily missed"........BY ME  :idiot2:

Thanks Sir !

I have just reached the village of Ernie at the end of the tutorial island (although to be fair there is very little hand holding or formal tutorial that I have seen). I am assuming I can add the extra free upkeep merc when I jump back into the game via the laptop app you mention .
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: SirAndrewD on July 14, 2023, 03:26:50 PM
Quote from: devoncop on July 14, 2023, 03:25:09 PM
Quote from: SirAndrewD on July 14, 2023, 02:58:24 PMAnother tip easily missed. 

Spend the $7k and build a Merc with the personality test in the laptop.

The built Merc is "you" and doesn't require a weekly upkeep.

"Easily missed"........BY ME  :idiot2:

Thanks Sir !

I have just reached the village of Ernie at the end of the tutorial island (although to be fair there is very little hand holding or formal tutorial that I have seen). I am assuming I can add the extra free upkeep merc when I jump back into the game via the laptop app you mention .


Yeah, you can add or subtract Mercs at will or wait for a contract to run out. 
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 15, 2023, 04:50:43 AM
Liking this so far.  Only issue I have seen and is probably something related to me is edge scrolling to the right doesn't seem to always work, not sure why.  Have to use the arrow key to pan in that direction, all other directions seem fine.  Game does require my fan to run constantly, but nothing too crazy yet.  Really like the uniqueness of the characters although some of their sayings are repeated often.  Haven't figured out how to master all the actions and the  overall system, but that will come with practice.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: devoncop on July 15, 2023, 05:13:29 AM
Agree with your verdict Mr Reaper !

Did you reduce the FPS to 60 from the default 240 ? That will help the fan no end I would think.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 15, 2023, 05:17:12 AM
Quote from: devoncop on July 15, 2023, 05:13:29 AMAgree with your verdict Mr Reaper !

Did you reduce the FPS to 60 from the default 240 ? That will help the fan no end I would think.

Yep, as soon as I installed the game I went through all options and noticed FPS cap was set very high, much more than my system could handle so I immediately reduced it to 60.  I haven't played with all the other graphic options yet but right now not overly worried as my machine isn't getting too hot, just the noise of the fan which isn't uncommon with games nowadays.  More of my issue is figuring out this right edge scrolling issue as I have never seen then in any other games I own so not sure what is different:(  Annoying to use the mouse on all other directions but have to use arrow key to pan right.  Strange.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 15, 2023, 05:24:24 AM
Just found a post where others having my issue scrolling, appears to happen when you have multiple monitors.  Other games work fine so hoping future update fixes this.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: devoncop on July 15, 2023, 06:00:34 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on July 15, 2023, 05:24:24 AMJust found a post where others having my issue scrolling, appears to happen when you have multiple monitors.  Other games work fine so hoping future update fixes this.

Ahhh multiple monitors.

I am reassured the problem is only affecting the rich  :tophat:

:-)
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 15, 2023, 07:21:06 AM
Quote from: devoncop on July 15, 2023, 06:00:34 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on July 15, 2023, 05:24:24 AMJust found a post where others having my issue scrolling, appears to happen when you have multiple monitors.  Other games work fine so hoping future update fixes this.

Ahhh multiple monitors.

I am reassured the problem is only affecting the rich  :tophat:

:-)

I guess I must be rich then for having a $80 second monitor:)

Turning down some of the graphic settings helped me reduce the amount of fan usage, luckily no crashes yet.  I much prefer these style games with "human" characters versus aliens so think this one is going to stick with me for awhile.  I wasn't a big player of past versions so still trying to figure things out.  How long should I offer contracts?  How many mercs should I have? During a fight, how to best leverage coverage and such to minimize death, already lost one of my people.  Haven't fully figured out how to utilize stealth as it always seems the enemy discovers me.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: Pete Dero on July 28, 2023, 01:36:40 PM
Demo available on Steam :

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1084160/Jagged_Alliance_3/

This demo will allow players to explore Ernie Island, the starting region of the game.
Title: Re: Jagged Alliance 3 announced
Post by: ArizonaTank on August 05, 2023, 11:58:51 AM
Have put about 10 hours into it and liking it.

But the first 3 or 4 hours were rocky...I could list a half dozen things that I have issues with, but overall, the game slowly won me over.