Old School Tactical up on Kickstarter

[Ubercat]

<cough!>Vassal<cough!>

[Jamm]

3 days in the game world  :)
Day 1 3 seperate battles.
Day 2 choose reinforcements for those battles.
Day 3 final battle with all forces on the map.
Map is sectioned on first 2 days.

Could be played with teams, which would be cool.

[Jamm]

Some new units.  This StuIG33 can collapse building hexes and break up that tea party of Russian Guards  >:D

[Barthheart]

Cool stuff Jamm.  O0 Can't wait to get it on my table.

[Kev. Sharp]

Yep the lock is in If I compared this to Holdfast that costs $5 to make and went pre pub on KS for $60 for a stock map, paper box and 30 blocks...This will have 3 maps shizea loads of counters and if Walker is doing the scenarios you know they will be knife fights.

The rules are ok and need some polish tho. I hope the developer/designer invests in making them more consumable than LnL was, sorry Mark Love ya but your rules always needed a lot of work.
I think Vance is on the money about it being a different game. Fire, Op fire assault etc are all very different. So is the command aspect.

That said we have lots of choices, so it needs to be Pretty Fing Awesome PFA to become a series of note.
I'm in @ $55 and glad for it, would be happy at $70 also for what you get.

[TacticalWargames]

I hope it uses a different spotting mechanic than Lock n Load series.  Being unable to shoot at buildings that may have an enemy in or do recon by fire to me is a very odd design decision in that series.

[Barthheart]

There are no spotting rules in this game. You can shoot at anything on the map... as long as you have a clear LoS.


Spotting in LnL is one of my favourite mechanisms in that series. It takes away the need for hidden units and some to the "All Seeing Eye" aspect.

[TacticalWargames]

I suppose I can see it being OK for the boardgame but it felt odd in the PC game. It actually went against German urban combat doctrine used in Stalingrad.

[GJK]

I understand that there's no structured turn sequence; that the phasing player just keeps going until he runs out of activations. Is there any kind of reaction fire that can take place during the phasing players portion of the turn?  If so, can you react to fire combat as well as movement?

[Barthheart]

I understand that there's no structured turn sequence; that the phasing player just keeps going until he runs out of activations. Is there any kind of reaction fire that can take place during the phasing players portion of the turn?  If so, can you react to fire combat as well as movement?

Not quite. Each player has a pool of impulse points to use during a turn. Player A uses an impulse, then Player B, then A again etc.
You can only pass on using an impulse if you currently have fewer points left than your opponent.
The opposing player can use impulse points to take defensive fire options at moving units.... not sure about reacting to fire but I'll check.

[bob48]

Sounds a little like CoH

[Jamm]

In CoH all units have a number of inherent action pts so all units will be able to move and fire.
With the Impulse pts, the player chooses which units perform what actions.
Move a tank, fire a Rifle squad, Rally a broken squad that is in danger of being assaulted, etc.  the decisions are up to you as you will rarely have all the Impulse pts that you would like.
Your Impulse pt total is also reduced by increased casualties.

[Barthheart]

WooHoo! Second stretch goal met! +$25K.

What's up next Jamm?

[Barthheart]

Played last night over VASSAL with Mark and Shayne there to watch and answer questions.

Interesting system. Takes some getting used to the kind of free form turn but once you get going it flows well.
I like the infantry CRT, no chance to use the AP one yet. Unit morale is set by scenario rather than on the counter. When taking fire and you shake or break you have a chance to shrug it off if you can make a roll against your morale. But when you take casualties you always take casualties.

Good stuff.  O0

[bob48]

OK Vance, now you definitely have my interest up  O0