Attila: Total War

jomni · January 14, 2015, 08:01:26 PM

Warhammer is a no go for me.

Nefaro · January 14, 2015, 08:51:30 PM

Quote from: undercovergeek on January 14, 2015, 03:11:46 PM

bring on the dwarves

Hell yes.

^-^

Gusington · January 14, 2015, 09:06:01 PM

^YES!

JasonPratt · January 15, 2015, 08:17:40 AM

^^ I heard Gimli's voice agreeing that the tall guys should ride out on horses to their certain deaths while he blows the super-tuba.

Quote from: Nefaro on January 14, 2015, 02:40:06 PM
But it's not WH40k. ???

Not yet.

MengJiao · January 19, 2015, 08:49:50 PM

Quote from: MengJiao on January 07, 2015, 03:18:41 PM
Quote from: mikeck on January 06, 2015, 10:22:54 PM
I don't know...280 turns is a lot, no?

It might work okay. Maybe a lot happens pretty fast in this version of TW.

Campaign Map:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?677856-PREVIEW-full-campaign-map!

Gusington · January 19, 2015, 09:16:17 PM

Looks very similar to the Rome 2 grand campaign map, eh?

Sir Slash · January 19, 2015, 11:38:44 PM

Why yes it does. Except my Rome 2 map is covered with the blood of my smashed armies. And giant red elephant footprints leading away from the gore. I like this one better. I'm not sure about the floating icons replacing the banners carried by the armies. I think I'll miss them but somebody will mod them back quickly I bet.

Gusington · January 20, 2015, 08:41:30 AM

Yeah there have been grumblings over at TWC about the flags being replaced on the campaign map but like you say changes like that are usually quickly and easily modded.

MengJiao · January 20, 2015, 10:07:37 AM

Quote from: Gusington on January 19, 2015, 09:16:17 PM
Looks very similar to the Rome 2 grand campaign map, eh?

Some of the Enraged (now the term for most of the standardized verbal stuff is "rage" in TW circles) are enraged because Athens and Sparta aren't on the Attila map. And Greece is labeled Macedon. Which causes some reflexive rage: "But they use Roman Equipment" (not surprisingly, I would say since the heyday of Macedon happened around 800 years before the world of Attila).

Looking at the map, I end up wondering about the likely flow of events. The Western Empire is all set for a very rapid decline, but the Eastern Empire seems to be facing some more obvious immediate problems.

There's a considerable residue of rage on the topic of which tribes (or factions) are where and which ones aren't there at all. I reserve some rage for thinking the following less enraged thought: there's a lot of tribes out there and historically, they changed names and locations pretty fast. So the overall "a lot of tribes" picture seems plausible.

MengJiao · January 20, 2015, 10:24:06 AM

Quote from: Sir Slash on January 19, 2015, 11:38:44 PM
Why yes it does. Except my Rome 2 map is covered with the blood of my smashed armies. And giant red elephant footprints leading away from the gore. I like this one better. I'm not sure about the floating icons replacing the banners carried by the armies. I think I'll miss them but somebody will mod them back quickly I bet.

There are enough changes to provide residual rage for all! Even of the "kidding" variety. It does seem that the focus of the game has shifted to the West. Here's a residual rage sample:

you have got to be kidding me, Gaul and Iberia have as much settlements as the African Continent, Palestina and Syria..

Sir Slash · January 20, 2015, 11:06:52 AM

One of my finest moments in gaming(and they usually are only moments) was playing the Eastern Romans to victory in the Barbarian Invasion expansion for RTW. What a tough fight that was. Goths, Sanassids, Vandals, and then the Huns show up. I built a Maginot Line of forts to protect Constantinople, something you probably won't be able to do this time. The West Romans I couldn't get past about turn 5 before they fell apart.

MengJiao · January 20, 2015, 12:15:38 PM

Quote from: Sir Slash on January 20, 2015, 11:06:52 AM
One of my finest moments in gaming(and they usually are only moments) was playing the Eastern Romans to victory in the Barbarian Invasion expansion for RTW. What a tough fight that was. Goths, Sanassids, Vandals, and then the Huns show up. I built a Maginot Line of forts to protect Constantinople, something you probably won't be able to do this time. The West Romans I couldn't get past about turn 5 before they fell apart.

Really, you are testing the limits of my rage by causing me to think about how to survive if I ever play as the Eastern Empire. For the moment, my plan is never to play as the Eastern Empire. I'm thinking -- oh -- Franks, Alans and if those go well, then the Western Empire.

But, here is your moment of rage:

That some people can defend that CA weakens the easern Roman Empire by giving them less settlements (Greece Syria/Palestina) just because the AI will never be able to take Constantinopel is quite funny. This way the player probably just need to wait in Constantinopel just because he hasn't the forces and finance to undertake something.

Sir Slash · January 20, 2015, 12:33:12 PM

Playing as either Roman faction in BI was fun and a challenge as was playing the Huns, Goths, Saxons etc. I'm not sure who I'll play as in Attila first but will probably get around to both Roman factions in time.

Gusington · January 20, 2015, 03:51:14 PM

The Vandals are going to be playable immediately upon release, correct? I don't think I have seen the Alans mentioned at all. And at 40 I am done with nerdrage. I just can't marshal the resources for it anymore.

Sir Slash · January 20, 2015, 04:10:35 PM

I have socks in my drawer older than 40, clean ones, but at my age I just can't find them. But they're there and I can't also get real excited about gaming inaccuracies as long as the damn thing plays and doesn't eat my hard drive, then I'm usually happy. But it does make you wonder sometimes if even I can find something not right, who's advising these guys? Perhaps a government conspiracy to alter history? :o