Middle Provincial Era GROGPUBLIC game thread

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IncompetentIdiot

Cornelius will drop all his cash on a knight.

JasonPratt

Done! -- the Aristocrat's normal vote tally goes up to 8. At the moment your 15 total Influence is being beaten by the Conservatives at 16, so your knight will only get a normal extra vote, not an activist double vote. But this could change during the Senate Phase.

Last but not least, Tripoli's Militarist Faction! Rolling for deck or event:

[blockquote]Rolled 2d6 : 6, 3, total 9[/blockquote]
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Not 7, so it's a Scenario card. It's the second and last Plebian Secession! (This one historically in 449 BCE.) It doesn't create a Drought event, thanks to your Agrarian Unrest Land Bill, and so is simply discarded. So is the Agrarian Event reminder now.

This leaves 9 cards in the Latin Era deck, which means it'll be Turn Four at least before the Italian Era starts. It also means, y'all are about to be socked with your remaining Latin Wars arriving all together over the next two or maybe three turns. Or even over the next one turn!

Neither Manlius nor Julius is mox enough yet to even possibly persuade anyone else's senator to join the Militarists.

Tripoli left prior instructions that Manly's 5 Talents should be used to automatically persuade a knight, and that's what happens. Normal votes increase to 7, and Manlius' Military skill increases to 6 -- which by normal rules is literally un-possible!  :D Ah, the benefits of being able to train your minions to serve as your Headquarters staff.  O0

Presumably Tripoli keeps Manlius as his Faction Leader, but if not I'll retcon that for you within a reasonable time frame. Just let me know.

With this, the Forum Phase ends, and the clock starts for ransoming those two senators before the end of the Forum Phase next Turn.

I'll do the Population Phase soon, and the start of the Senate Phase, by early this afternoon my time.
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POPULATION PHASE
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Population phase mechanics: no major corruption markers yet. No threat of Concession destruction yet. No destroyed Concessions or family Senators to respawn yet. Roll 1d6 for each Aging Enemy Leader, discard if >=5.

[blockquote]Rolled 1d6 : 6, total 6[/blockquote]
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Wow! -- Coriolanus drops dead before his War arrives! That'll be handy!

Time for Appius Claudius of the Plutocrats to open the Senate with his State of the Republic speech!

3d6 roll, minus 3, plus 0 for Appius' Popularity.

[blockquote]Rolled 3d6 : 3, 4, 6, total 13[/blockquote]
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13-3=10 adjusted result. This adds +1 to the Unrest level, but nothing else, now up to 4.

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SENATE PHASE begins!
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I'll post snapshot updates of the current state of the gameboard and mats:



Not actually much happening this Turn, so the Senate Phase should be easier than last time! I'll report specific relevant stats soon.






The Frog's Plutocrats:


ArizonaTank's Conservatives:


Malize's Populists:


Erax's Progressives:
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Erax

We may have to run some Games next turn before Unrest rises any more.

JasonPratt

Relevant information:

1 Active Legion; 6 potential Legions in Force Pool.

39 Talents in the Republic's Treasury, with an extra 25 on the way next Turn beyond the normal income factors.

There are no Wars in view, yet. (The doors of the Temple of Mars have been shut for now. Or was it Janus...?)

You can generally expect nearby cities to start agitating for War within the next few Turns. But Coriolanus died in exile before he could lead one of those Wars, so that's helpful!

Two senators are being held hostage by the barbarians who sacked Rome, but there isn't anything the Senate can officially do about that. (Also, it's impossible to strike back at the barbarians. For now, they're beyond Rome's reach. ...for now.  ^-^ That'll change a few generations later, in the Provincial periods.)

There are still only two Senatorial offices, the Roman and Field Consuls.

The only Mandatory Business this Turn will be to elect a new pair of Consuls. Only the current Consuls, Cincinnatus and Appius, are ineligible for nomination. The two captive senators are not in Rome, so can't be nominated either. Prior Consul Fulvius of the Plutocrats is eligible again.

For non-Mandatory business, you could disband your remaining 4th Legion if you really wanted to, but you'd only end up needing to raise it again sooner than its disbanding would save money on.

Another non-Mandatory option open right now is to raise new Legions. However, you'll have to pay upkeep on them next Revenue Phase, and you don't actually need any right now; and if you do need some next Turn (which is highly probable), you'll have time to raise and send them during the next Senate. Of course you might not have the cash next Turn, but if you spent the cash now you'd be even farther in the hole.

Your last non-Mandatory option would be to pass another land bill to try to reduce unrest to a more manageable level. The financial stresses aren't good for that, though: a Type 2 Land Bill reduces Unrest by 2 when it's passed, but you'll be paying upkeep of 5 Talents per Turn in perpetuity. A Type 3 Land Bill reduces Unrest by 3, but you'll be paying upkeep of 10 Talents. Note that you don't get a new Unrest drop each Turn! -- but you do have to keep paying each Turn. Repealing them later will bring back the same Unrest you reduced.

If you're feeling confident in staying financially solvent next Turn, you may consider voting for the Populist Statesman Lucius Junius Brutus as your new Roman Consul (and thus HRAO), since he'll add +4 to his Speech, plus his +1 Popularity to start the Senate next Turn, and so give you a small but real chance at reducing Unrest that way (and a little better chance to avoid the worst results).
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Quote from: Erax on October 07, 2018, 01:48:24 PM
We may have to run some Games next turn before Unrest rises any more.

Only senators can pay for Games, not the Republic itself, but that's certainly an option -- but someone will need to remember to assign enough cash distribution to make that work. Minimum is 7 Talents per senator. As many senators can sponsor games as they want, if they can afford it! Sponsoring senators pick up some Popularity for doing that, too: +1 for 7 Talents.

This choice will show up, for senators with enough cash (which hasn't happened yet), in the Forum Phase. (Technically Appius Claudius had enough cash previously at one point, but he donated it immediately to the Republic's Treasury so didn't have it anymore when the option for sponsoring games came up.)
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So: the only Mandatory business first!

The Frog must now propose two nominees for the new Roman and Field Consuls. Other Factions can discuss and make recommendations, both publicly and privately (by p-mail).
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Erax

There's a few events that may limit or even prevent us from raising legions, so I say we raise as many as possible this turn. I don't want to run the risk of multiple wars and no legions to raise. The 6-talent cost is worth it IMO.

JasonPratt

Quote from: Erax on October 07, 2018, 03:30:46 PM
There's a few events that may limit or even prevent us from raising legions, so I say we raise as many as possible this turn. I don't want to run the risk of multiple wars and no legions to raise. The 6-talent cost is worth it IMO.

Strictly speaking then, you can raise 3 legions without going under 0 in expenses; or 5 legions with the understanding that the Allied Enthusiasms will pay for the next two quickly next turn. Or all 6 currently possible Legions, expecting the normal income to pay for the final 10 Talents. (You'd have all 7 Legions active then.) But you'd want to make sure you elect the Plutocrat Fulvius as Roman Consul now, so that you'd have a safety net for the negative expenses until you recover.
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Erax

I'm not sure how deficit spending (with a Plutocrat Consul) works so I meant 3 legions now.

Ethel the Frog

Okay.  It is time for a new election.  I am stepping down as Roman Consul.

I need to nominate two new Consuls. I nominate Cornelius for Roman Consul, and Fabius for Field Consul.