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GDS_Starfury

#30
October 20, 2014, 10:58:18 AM
Im sure there will be a directors edition.
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bayonetbrant

#31
October 20, 2014, 11:19:14 AM
aaaaaannnd...

here's a self-absorbed dork babbling on about the movie
https://www.facebook.com/groups/221051524573205/permalink/877386012273083/

QuoteRegarding the film "Fury," which Wargamers presumably will be seeing:
I shared my concern about the film "Fury" undermining the Honor of the U.S. Army and the Laws of War with 3 key, high ranking Army officers and within just a couple hours ... on Sunday! ... 2 of them responded. At the least, the Army does not endorse films, but I hope it will denounce this one.
Commissioned, honorable officers stop/prevent the murder of prisoners and rape. Islamic State warriors perpetrate crimes like these, not American *soldiers*, and I have been fighting this soldier vs. "warrior" issue for years, now.
I will view the film ... someday ... for its tank combat sequences and to verify what I have heard and written about it. Other Army veterans are starting to speak out as well, and that is good to see.

The real kicker?  Dude doesn't even live in the US.  He left the US for Norway years ago.

oy...
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Sir Slash

#32
October 20, 2014, 11:58:04 AM
I hope you're right about the Director's cut Star because I couldn't help but notice not all of the scenes in the very good trailer were in the movie. Might be some damn good parts were left out. I could've looked at the Tiger tank all night. Or your avatar. Or your avatar riding the Tiger tank. I'm getting hot just thinking about it.
"Take a look at that". Sgt. Wilkerson-- CMBN. His last words after spotting a German tank on the other side of a hedgerow.

JudgeDredd

#33
October 21, 2014, 05:28:23 PM
Well - I saw the movie.

The good

  • Great action scenes
  • Superb looking battlefields - very authentic looking
  • Fantastic looking tanks
  • Great characters

The bad

  • What? I mean - who were they? As Slash said - they fought the war together and I just got incredible animosity and dislike and disrespect from them to each other
  • The SS seemed tactically inept

Again - like Sir Slash - not a bad movie - not at all. Well worth a visit to the cinema and a Blu-Ray purchase. But I didn't get their relationship. They'd been cooked up in that tank "fightin Germans in North Africa, fightin Germans in France and now fightin Germans in Germany"...and I really got the impression there wasn't a lot of love lost between them...only when the chips were down did I get the feeling of camaraderie - and even then it was kind of minor.

Don't regret it - just didn't get "it"...whatever "it" was.

And for the record I don't go to movies looking for some deep meaning or other morality issue being forced on me. I don't expect it, don't look for it and, very often, don't even see it if it's there. I'm kind of a "skin deep" guy when watching movies.

I know I sound like I didn't like it but I did. It was just missing something I put that on the characters.
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GDS_Starfury

#34
October 21, 2014, 06:08:26 PM
Im not trying to make excuses for the director but by that time in the war the SS werent anywhere near what they were pre 1943.
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Gus - I use sweatpants with flannel shorts to soak up my crotch sweat.

Banzai Cat - There is no "partial credit" in grammar. Like anal sex. It's either in, or it's not.

Mirth - We learned long ago that they key isn't to outrun Star, it's to outrun Gus.

Martok - I don't know if it's possible to have an "anti-boner"...but I now have one.

Gus - Celery is vile and has no reason to exist. Like underwear on Star.

Sir Slash

#35
October 21, 2014, 06:26:19 PM
Yeah, but blind, pacifist, Boy Scouts could've done better. These guys couldn't sing or fight. ;D Except for the sniper. They should've sent him in first. Of course who wouldn't just lay down and die fighting Brad. :uglystupid2:
"Take a look at that". Sgt. Wilkerson-- CMBN. His last words after spotting a German tank on the other side of a hedgerow.

Centurion40

#36
October 22, 2014, 08:48:57 AM
Quote from: Sir Slash on October 21, 2014, 06:26:19 PM
Yeah, but blind, pacifist, Boy Scouts could've done better. These guys couldn't sing or fight. ;D Except for the sniper. They should've sent him in first. Of course who wouldn't just lay down and die fighting Brad. :uglystupid2:

The Hitler Youth did do better, if you recall the scene where the column of tanks were rolling along the edge of the forest.
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JudgeDredd

#37
October 22, 2014, 08:53:54 AM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on October 21, 2014, 06:08:26 PM
Im not trying to make excuses for the director but by that time in the war the SS werent anywhere near what they were pre 1943.
It was really more to do with the fact that they couldn't seem to work out that all the guns on the tank faced forward and therefore there was a BIG juicy Sherman arse waiting to have a panzerfaust shoved up it.
Alba gu' brath

Sir Slash

#38
October 22, 2014, 10:14:05 AM
Agreed Judge. And another thing in the minor, picky-rant category, the guys in the tank lose a tread to a mine and then have no problem hoping-out and wandering all around on foot. It's like they KNEW there weren't any more mines around. :o Centurion, I thought the Hitler Youth scene was one of best in the movie.
"Take a look at that". Sgt. Wilkerson-- CMBN. His last words after spotting a German tank on the other side of a hedgerow.

JudgeDredd

#39
October 22, 2014, 10:56:50 AM
Yep.

It seems really down that we're talking it down. Daft really as it was a good movie but definitely the characters (not individually which I thought were played superb) but as a group - I just didn't get how they didn't knit together better. They seemed like they resented each other but especially the Sarge. It just didn't really make sense for a group that had been together for so long.

It was that aspect that left me kind of in purgatory - not really knowing what to think except "That was a great movie - but wtf?"

But definitely worth a watch...and as I said, individually the characters were, I thought, superb for the most part.
Alba gu' brath

Centurion40

#40
October 22, 2014, 12:47:20 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on October 22, 2014, 10:14:05 AM
Agreed Judge. And another thing in the minor, picky-rant category, the guys in the tank lose a tread to a mine and then have no problem hoping-out and wandering all around on foot.

Oh yeah!  That struck me too!  An AT mine might not get set-off by an individual soldier walking on it, but jumping on it (from down-off a tank) might be a different story.
Any time is a good time for pie.

Barthheart

#41
October 22, 2014, 12:49:49 PM
Quote from: Centurion40 on October 22, 2014, 12:47:20 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on October 22, 2014, 10:14:05 AM
Agreed Judge. And another thing in the minor, picky-rant category, the guys in the tank lose a tread to a mine and then have no problem hoping-out and wandering all around on foot.

Oh yeah!  That struck me too!  An AT mine might not get set-off by an individual soldier walking on it, but jumping on it (from down-off a tank) might be a different story.

Plus you normally mix in AP mines for just such an occurrence.

bayonetbrant

#42
October 22, 2014, 01:40:58 PM
Quote from: Centurion40 on October 22, 2014, 12:47:20 PMAn AT mine might not get set-off by an individual soldier walking on it, but jumping on it (from down-off a tank) might be a different story.

Quote from: Barthheart on October 22, 2014, 12:49:49 PMPlus you normally mix in AP mines for just such an occurrence.

You mix in AP mines with AT mines to make life suck for anyone that tries to clear the AT ones.
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endfire79

#43
October 22, 2014, 05:08:25 PM
The problem is everyone wanted a Steel Panthers movie.  Grogs are so picky, even after throwing in Tyler durdab
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Silent Disapproval Robot

#44
October 24, 2014, 01:31:33 AM
Come on, the entire final battle scene was pretty ridiculous.  I get that the target audience isn't really the grog crowd but even for the general populace, the actions of the Germans are absurd.



*********SPOILERS*************

We're treated to a scene showing the SS battalion marching in column and dozens of panzerfausts are in evidence.  Why on earth aren't those being used by AT teams from several directions after dark?

Why didn't the SS just bypass the tank entirely?  It's not like it was part of their mission and it definitely wasn't going anywhere.  Leave a small detachment behind to deal with the crew once they get out of the tank to work on the tracks.




*********  END SPOILERS*************
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