Microsoft Flight Simulator...

[RyanE]

This one almost brings a tear to my eyes.

https://youtu.be/isvWpUXgKgM

[smittyohio]

Keep in mind that first time PC building is not as simple as some people, who have done it a few times, make out.  I watched my son struggle through school of hard knocks.  Whether it was sizing the wrong power supply, screwing his thermal paste, kinking his liquid cooling hoses, motherboard connectors, etc.  He spent two days troubleshooting the pin-outs for fans on the mother board and a couple days figuring his drives and the SATA wiring out.  In all, he spent a full week just building and trouble shooting.  And he's an electrical engineer with a pretty good innate understanding of PCs.  His biggest mistake was ordering the wrong motherboard.  Lost a week in returning and getting a new one.

But when he helped my other son build his, it took a weekend.

PS - Don't forget you need a LEGAL copy of windows on a build.  That's another $100.

Totally agree.  I've built most of my machines for the last 20 years, and it still can be nerve wracking when nothing happens when you hit that power switch.   It can be a total pain to figure out what you did wrong, or if you have a bad part (and which one??)

[RyanE]

Patch is available.  Just start up MSFS20 and it'll automatically take you through the update.

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/news-patch-version-1-7-14-0-update/245576

[RyanE]

New patch...

https://www.flightsimulator.com/patch-version-1-8-3-0-is-now-available/

Seems to address a lot of stuff.  Five minutes of flying and the airliners are much smoother, even in heavy cities.

[Redwolf]

Question: if I buy the cheap standard version, can I later buy the planes and airports in the other editions?

I hear there is some kind of shop, but I can't check before I buy.

[Grim.Reaper]

Question: if I buy the cheap standard version, can I later buy the planes and airports in the other editions?

I hear there is some kind of shop, but I can't check before I buy.

There is a marketplace in the game where you can buy additional airports, scenery, planes, etc.  I looked up some of the airports that came with the deluxe and premium versions and I could only find one (O'Hare) that is available as a separate purchase versus buying the deluxe/premium bundles.  You can also upgrade from standard to one of the other bundles within the marketplace.  No idea if they plan to eventually add the other stuff as separate purchases or whether you'll always need to upgrade to one of the bundles.

[Yskonyn]

Question: if I buy the cheap standard version, can I later buy the planes and airports in the other editions?

I hear there is some kind of shop, but I can't check before I buy.

There is a marketplace in the game where you can buy additional airports, scenery, planes, etc.  I looked up some of the airports that came with the deluxe and premium versions and I could only find one (O'Hare) that is available as a separate purchase versus buying the deluxe/premium bundles.  You can also upgrade from standard to one of the other bundles within the marketplace.  No idea if they plan to eventually add the other stuff as separate purchases or whether you'll always need to upgrade to one of the bundles.

Traditionally the aircraft and airports were only availlable to those who bought the higher tier versions, but with this version you can upgrade later.
Of course there is the distinction between 3rd party work as well; the aircraft / airports (especially) might be re-done by a third party group and that would enable you to buy it seperately. However, the deal on the upgraded tiers is pretty sweet IMO if those give you airports you will frequent often, as airport addons usually go for 20 to 30 a piece.

[Redwolf]

Thanks, folks. Buying the upgrade packages later is exactly what I need. I just don't want to overspend before I'm sure I like it.

Also, I want a F-4 Phantom II in there :)

[hellfish6]

I just ordered a brand new computer specifically for this. I'm not even all that keen on the flying... I just want to go sightseeing.

[Bardolph]

I just ordered a brand new computer specifically for this. I'm not even all that keen on the flying... I just want to go sightseeing.

I haven't even plugged a stick or pedals in so far, just been visiting various places using an Xbox controller just to sightsee.

[Redwolf]

It is downloading the 110 GB for more than 24 hours now. Is that normal?

[Grim.Reaper]

It is downloading the 110 GB for more than 24 hours now. Is that normal?

I guess depends on your internet connection...I consider my connection on the slower side, still on DSL.  With this I am able to download about 10-11GB per hour, which would take me about 10 hrs to download (roughly what I remembered when I downloaded---did not take 24 hours).  So in my case, 24 hours would seem excessive unless your internet connection is about twice as slow as mine.

[Redwolf]

It is downloading the 110 GB for more than 24 hours now. Is that normal?

I guess depends on your internet connection...I consider my connection on the slower side, still on DSL.  With this I am able to download about 10-11GB per hour, which would take me about 10 hrs to download (roughly what I remembered when I downloaded---did not take 24 hours).  So in my case, 24 hours would seem excessive unless your internet connection is about twice as slow as mine.

I have Gbit. Turns out the download was hanging on a specific patch. I nuked some stuff and restarted the patching.

Download is complete, but now I'm waiting for loading. Seems like I should move this install off the magnetic drive and use a SSD.

[Redwolf]

How is everybody doing with this thing?

I cannot say that it meets my expectations. In fact I am thinking about canceling my PC upgrade program since more and more games aren't worth the expense. I think Assetto Corsa Competitione is the only game I play and like that would really benefit from new hardware.

[hellfish6]

I love it. It's exactly what I expected it to be, which is rare.