An Idiots Guide To Losing Your CV's Before 1942: WiTP:AE KyzBP vs UCG

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BanzaiCat

Photobucket was giving me endless grief yesterday with my FCN AAR, so I definitely feel your pain there, KyzBP.

JasonPratt

I'm dubious that the game engine allows putting B-25s even temporarily on a carrier. Doolittle's raid worked partly because he was crazy.

If Geek hadn't taken Attu, something could have been arranged (once Attu's field facilities had been improved a bit perhaps), but as it is... we're talking a huuuuuuuge leap from Dutch.

Maybe something could be worked out with the Russians in-game? Or are there other possible fields besides Attu?
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KyzBP

Quote from: Staggerwing on January 23, 2016, 09:11:36 AM
If you are trying to draw him north what about giving him a whiff of possible medium or heavy bombers near your AM holdings? Is there any way to leapfrog a few B-25 or even a Fortress or two near there just long enough to tease his spotters and then pull those planes back? Does the game make it possible to recreate the Doolittle raid in a place of your choosing?

What you're suggesting, Stagger, is pretty much what I'm going to have to do.  First though, I need the airfields completed (3 more days is my guess) and then I need Base Forces.
Bases Forces provide the support for the units at the base.  Most importantly they provide ground crews for the aircraft stationed at a base.  Without the ground crews the aircraft
pretty much just sit in hangers or crates.  They don't fly.  In my haste to kick off AM I neglected to send any Base Forces with the landings.  This wasn't a problem at first.  I was only going to be here long enough to draw his carriers out of the Central/South Pacific.  Since it doesn't appear that Geek took the bait, I'm loading some Base Forces now and will be sending them shortly.  That means my carriers will have to escort them in.  AM has just turned permanent.

I have some B-26's and a few B-25's in Alaska that will either be flown in, once the airfields are done, or they will be crated and shipped in.  I'm also very tempted to bombard one of his ports on Hokkaido and see if that grabs his attention.

As far as I know there's no mechanic to recreate Doolittle's Raid.  For a plane to be based on a carrier it has to be "carrier capable".  The only planes that are carrier capable are the Navy bombers (torp and dive) and the Navy Fighters.  I'm not sure if later in the game something changes.  I've never played this far into the AE addition. 

KyzBP

Quote from: Banzai_Cat on January 23, 2016, 09:17:06 AM
Photobucket was giving me endless grief yesterday with my FCN AAR, so I definitely feel your pain there, KyzBP.

It's frustrating as heck.  I think it has something to do with the ads that run.  I'm almost tempted to pay the damn $.99 a month and be done with it.

BanzaiCat

I understand, but even for such a cheap price, I won't cave. I can't complain too much since it's a free service, but it's hardly ever given me issues before. Was it hanging for you, too? Mine kept getting stuck at 90%. Every so often, if I waited two minutes and refreshed, it would appear in my library. That quickly stopped working, though.

KyzBP

Quote from: JasonPratt on January 23, 2016, 09:27:34 AM
I'm dubious that the game engine allows putting B-25s even temporarily on a carrier. Doolittle's raid worked partly because he was crazy.

If Geek hadn't taken Attu, something could have been arranged (once Attu's field facilities had been improved a bit perhaps), but as it is... we're talking a huuuuuuuge leap from Dutch.

Maybe something could be worked out with the Russians in-game? Or are there other possible fields besides Attu?

I'm going to get the airfield at Amchitka Is. up and running shortly.  I'll try to fly something out from there but the reality is they are probably going to be shipped in.

KyzBP

Quote from: Banzai_Cat on January 23, 2016, 09:36:09 AM
I understand, but even for such a cheap price, I won't cave. I can't complain too much since it's a free service, but it's hardly ever given me issues before. Was it hanging for you, too? Mine kept getting stuck at 90%. Every so often, if I waited two minutes and refreshed, it would appear in my library. That quickly stopped working, though.

Lol.  That's pretty much exactly what keeps happening.  If I try to load screens by bulk it sometimes only loads a few and then will refuse to load the others. I don't see any better alternative so I'll just keep plugging away.

KyzBP

February 27th, 1942

I say good bye to Palmyra with a parting shot.

I'm leaving the area for a bit so I thought I'd bombard Palmyra a final time.  I'm going to gather everyone up at Pearl and see
what kind of mischief I can cause.  I'm also hoping he sends his carriers this way so I can release the convoys that will be
holding at Canton, Pago Pago, and Suva.  If I can get some of the troop transports through to the bases around the Coral Sea,
I can get the airfields up and running.  I'll then load them down with fighters, bring the bomber laden carriers here and, protected
by land based CAP, see if I can't find a favorable battle.

Ships and troops lost at Port Blair.

Geek rolled into port and sunk a convoy that was unloading, ironically, a Coastal Defense unit.  I've been trying to pin down this raiding
group with aircraft but it's been nothing but thunderstorms for almost a week.  What's the fun of temporary air superiority if you can't
use it.

The air war over Siberoet.

Our small group of determined fighters made a good showing as Geek continues to go after my transports unloading here.
Unfortunately, we couldn't stop him forever.

I lost a lot of transports in this area.  I have to make sure I plan better the next time I begin base building in enemy territory.

Geek beats me to Rockhampton.

This sucks!  I have remnant troops just 2 days away and a bunch of DD's, CL's, and a CA 2 days away as well.  I'll divert the ships
to Brisbane so they can form up.  The troops will continue to Rockhampton.  As much as I want to try bombing his ships I'll have to
focus on bombing his ground troops to try and keep them disorganized to buy myself more time.

The troops begin landing at Rockhampton.

Something good needs to happen, and quick.  I don't know what Geek needs for Auto Victory but if I lose Brisbane and Sydney I would
bet this game will be over.  I need to not only stop him but take some points back as well.

KyzBP

February 28th, 1942

Sorry about the delay.  Let's get to it.

The morning (mourning?) begins with a bombardment of Rockhampton.

Not a lot of casualties but he's certainly softening up my troops.  There's still some troops on the way here.  If they get here in time
I may be able to delay the inevitable long enough to get troops in place at Brisbane and Sydney.

The Banshees strike.

Maybe that was a little exaggerated but they did hit the Fuso.  One bomb, unless straight down the stack , isn't going to make much
of an impact.  Considering that the Banshee pilots average about 38 experience I'll take what I can get with these guys.

The sub war continued.

We actually hit a ship with troops aboard.

Here a ballsy sub captain goes to guns in the an enemy harbor, in broad daylight.

All 3 of these attacks were by Dutch subs, I think.  They have easily been the most effective of my sub forces.  I don't post any of the
American misses.  They take a lot of shots but the damn torps won't detonate.  I wonder if fully functional torpedoes could've changed
the course of the war.

I think Geek is officially tired of Buna.

It looks like he's coming ashore.  I have some decent troops there but they're woefully under supplied. There's nowhere for them to run
this time so if they're defeated then they'll be surrendering.  I really need these harassment troops. Anything that keeps him from fully
focusing on the front lines buys me time.

Geek continues to hammer my supply ships at Siberoet.

At least there were no troops on any of the ships in harbor.  I need to distract him away from here for a few turns so I can get the Hurricanes
assembled and in the air.  I'd like to ambush him in the air here or in one of these places where he sends a large formation of bombers and a
small escort.  I'm still planning on trying to build up this area.  Once I get my airfields staffed I should be able to not only preoccupy Geek but
start taking back territory.

Geek's large carrier TF.

It looks like he's headed to either Suva or into the slot between Suva and the New Hebrides (The New He-Brides could be a cool band name.).
I have over 50 Airacobras at Efate and about the same in Warhawks at Suva.  We should be able to put up a decent fight should he decide to
attack either of these areas.  What I don't have is bombers.  I have a couple of small, obsolete torpedo squadrons at Suva.  I don't hold much hope
in them getting through to his carriers though.

AM is silent.  I decided to keep the CV's on station since his carriers showed up in the South Pacific.  I have a couple of squadrons of PBY's keeping
me up to date on all the ship movements in the area.  If a carrier force does show up I should have enough warning to get out of here...if I chose.

Sir Slash

Has Geek's landings in Australia effected your sub war at all? I mean in terms of the bases he's taken. Has this hurt your sub forces at all?
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KyzBP

Quote from: Sir Slash on January 30, 2016, 09:49:24 AM
Has Geek's landings in Australia effected your sub war at all? I mean in terms of the bases he's taken. Has this hurt your sub forces at all?
Not as Australia goes.  The bases I use for subs there are still intact.  The bases on Java and Manila ARE affecting my sub forces.  Manila has no more torpedoes and Java has no more bases.  The subs in this area now have to go to Colombo, Midway, or Pearl to rearm.  Darwin is almost out of sub supplies and I haven't been able to get resupply through yet.

Tuna


KyzBP

Quote from: Tuna on January 30, 2016, 12:53:43 PM
Phew, I was going through withdrawal!

Blame Photobucket.  I had some time yesterday but Photobucket was down for "maintenance'.  I'll get a couple more days worth up here shortly.

As always: Thanks for following along! O0

BanzaiCat

Quote from: KyzBP on January 30, 2016, 01:08:30 PM
Photobucket was down for "maintenance'. 

I saw that pop up, somewhere. Hopefully that was the issue they were having. I'll have to get back to my AAR as well, now, if they have their stuff together finally.

KyzBP

Quote from: Banzai_Cat on January 30, 2016, 01:23:06 PM
Quote from: KyzBP on January 30, 2016, 01:08:30 PM
Photobucket was down for "maintenance'. 

I saw that pop up, somewhere. Hopefully that was the issue they were having. I'll have to get back to my AAR as well, now, if they have their stuff together finally.
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