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Title: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 24, 2020, 06:32:54 PM
Isn't tomorrow the usual start of the Matrix holiday sale, I think they typically begin the day before Thanksgiving?

I hate to admit it but even if they have a sale, there really isn't a single thing I want as in past sales I pretty much picked up everything I wanted.  Oh well, another tradition down the drain.....
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: W8taminute on November 24, 2020, 06:43:10 PM
Don't give up hope.  You never know what your eye my catch if the price is right.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: berto on November 24, 2020, 08:22:22 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 24, 2020, 06:32:54 PM
Isn't tomorrow the usual start of the Matrix holiday sale, I think they typically begin the day before Thanksgiving?
Yes, Thanksgiving Eve, IIRC.

QuoteI hate to admit it but even if they have a sale, there really isn't a single thing I want as in past sales I pretty much picked up everything I wanted.
+1

If I am honest, I confess I will likely cave in and pick up a title or two or three.  If I am brutally honest, I must admit that I will likely never take time to learn or play them.  So what's the point?  :P
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: airboy on November 24, 2020, 09:39:09 PM
Order of Battle is very good (except Kriegsmarine).

Stirring Abyss is new and I liked it quite a bit.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: FarAway Sooner on November 25, 2020, 11:12:52 AM
It's easy for me to remember when the Matrix Holiday Sale starts, because it is invariably 1-6 days AFTER my Anniversary Discount coupon expires!   ;D

Ah well, I had a good excuse to pick up Shadow Empire.  It's like Distant Worlds Universe meets Gamma World!
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 25, 2020, 11:23:36 AM
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on November 25, 2020, 11:12:52 AM
It's easy for me to remember when the Matrix Holiday Sale starts, because it is invariably 1-6 days AFTER my Anniversary Discount coupon expires!   ;D

Ah well, I had a good excuse to pick up Shadow Empire.  It's like Distant Worlds Universe meets Gamma World!

Yep, mine expired 8 days ago.....
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Lotti Fuehrscheim on November 25, 2020, 12:58:02 PM
Mine overlap, so I will buy some modules for Gladius, Galactica and Fantasy General.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Pete Dero on November 25, 2020, 01:24:10 PM
No Matrix sale but Steam sale just started.

Order of Battle DLC is 60% off.  (and most Matrix/Slitherine games are also on sale : Fantasy General -40% - Gladius -65% - ...).


Of course many other non-Matrix games are also included in the fall sale.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Dammit Carl! on November 25, 2020, 03:06:01 PM
Can say, matter-of-factly, that there is absolutely nothing I want from Matrix at this point in time.  I'm good.

(but, I've not looked at the Matrix site in a bit...so just one look won't hurt...right?)

Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Gusington on November 25, 2020, 03:20:31 PM
 8)

Fantasy General 2 is on sale, you say?
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: WYBaugh on November 25, 2020, 05:50:09 PM
I should probably know this but would you guys recommend BG Deadlock or Gladius?
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 25, 2020, 06:10:03 PM
Kind of strange that there is no sale today or really any talk of one...maybe they are skipping it this year....
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Father Ted on November 25, 2020, 06:12:09 PM
Quote from: Dammit Carl! on November 25, 2020, 03:06:01 PM
Can say, matter-of-factly, that there is absolutely nothing I want from Matrix at this point in time.  I'm good.


This where I'm at.  I keep looking through the catalogue, but there is nothing I don't have, or that has been championed on these boards as something I *should* have.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Lotti Fuehrscheim on November 25, 2020, 06:22:53 PM
Quote from: WYBaugh on November 25, 2020, 05:50:09 PM
I should probably know this but would you guys recommend BG Deadlock or Gladius?

I have had 27 hours of fun with Gladius and only 7 hours with Galactica.

I have tried watching the current Galactica TV shows, but I rather read 1950's pulp SF, instead of what they made of it there.
The mechanics of BGD space combat are dimensionally absurd, but still interesting challenges, I guess.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: WYBaugh on November 25, 2020, 06:40:22 PM
Quote from: Lotti Fuehrscheim on November 25, 2020, 06:22:53 PM
Quote from: WYBaugh on November 25, 2020, 05:50:09 PM
I should probably know this but would you guys recommend BG Deadlock or Gladius?

I have had 27 hours of fun with Gladius and only 7 hours with Galactica.

I have tried watching the current Galactica TV shows, but I rather read 1950's pulp SF, instead of what they made of it there.
The mechanics of BGD space combat are dimensionally absurd, but still interesting challenges, I guess.

Thank you for the feedback.  BGD has great reviews but I have to agree with you that I was questioning the combat from watching videos.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: -budd- on November 25, 2020, 08:16:06 PM
Thought the sale always started on the black Friday. I might pick up some Gladius DLC, or maybe Piercing Fortress Europe. Been looking at Fortress Europe for years.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 25, 2020, 08:41:04 PM
Quote from: -budd- on November 25, 2020, 08:16:06 PM
Thought the sale always started on the black Friday. I might pick up some Gladius DLC, or maybe Piercing Fortress Europe. Been looking at Fortress Europe for years.

Nope, last year as an example started on Nov. 26th, which was actually 2 days before Thanksgiving. 
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Boggit on November 26, 2020, 12:41:29 AM
Quote from: WYBaugh on November 25, 2020, 05:50:09 PM
I should probably know this but would you guys recommend BG Deadlock or Gladius?
The BSG collection is great if you're into tactical ship content and the BSG lore.

Gladius is a fun game, but can get a bit repetitive after a while. There is however a fair bit of choice amongst the factions (plus their DLC).
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Yskonyn on November 26, 2020, 02:11:26 AM
If only Distant Worlds 2 was available for pre-order. I still got an anniversary coupon ready .
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 26, 2020, 09:30:07 AM
And it has arrived.....

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4916469&mpage=1&key=%26%2365533%3B
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Gusington on November 26, 2020, 12:32:04 PM
 :pullhair:
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Redwolf on November 26, 2020, 12:57:29 PM
Interesting that they have Combat Mission: Shock Force 2 on sale.

BFC (the developer) was always vehemently opposed to participating in Steam-like game sales. Quite a bit of a change combined with being on Steam in the first place. I hope good things come from this.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Lotti Fuehrscheim on November 26, 2020, 02:52:51 PM
Yeay, and here is 31% anniversary coupon to combine with the Holiday Sale. And the energy company returned €600 because my landlord installed a new high-efficiency boiler for a €20/month increase in rent. I was anxious for this year-end bill to learn if this was a good deal, but that seems to be OK. So there is a huge psychological budget. Should I pick up CMO?
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Tripoli on November 26, 2020, 03:01:47 PM
Quote from: Lotti Fuehrscheim on November 26, 2020, 02:52:51 PM
...
Should I pick up CMO?

Yes.  It is a deep game.  Good sized learning curve.  But it is excellent.  How many other games released in 2013 are still going strong?
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Elvis on November 26, 2020, 03:08:24 PM
Quote from: Redwolf on November 26, 2020, 12:57:29 PM
Interesting that they have Combat Mission: Shock Force 2 on sale.

BFC (the developer) was always vehemently opposed to participating in Steam-like game sales. Quite a bit of a change combined with being on Steam in the first place. I hope good things come from this.

When we first released Shock Force 2 on Steam we mirrored the discounted price on the Battlefront website. We've done the same now (and actually will every time there is a Matrix and Steam sale).

Also, if the game is purchased through Matrix (or Battlefront) it gives you Steam access as well.  If it continues to prove worthwhile we expect other Combat Mission titles to become available on Steam.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Redwolf on November 26, 2020, 03:13:05 PM
Quote from: Elvis on November 26, 2020, 03:08:24 PM
Quote from: Redwolf on November 26, 2020, 12:57:29 PM
Interesting that they have Combat Mission: Shock Force 2 on sale.

BFC (the developer) was always vehemently opposed to participating in Steam-like game sales. Quite a bit of a change combined with being on Steam in the first place. I hope good things come from this.

When we first released Shock Force 2 on Steam we mirrored the discounted price on the Battlefront website. We've done the same now (and actually will every time there is a Matrix and Steam sale).

Also, if the game is purchased through Matrix (or Battlefront) it gives you Steam access as well.  If it continues to prove worthwhile we expect other Combat Mission titles to become available on Steam.

Sounds good to me. A real A/B test of the two pricing styles. Best of luck.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Sir Slash on November 26, 2020, 11:14:03 PM
I'll second that.  :clap:
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Toonces on November 27, 2020, 12:26:18 PM
I'm looking very closely at War Plan Orange and Empires in Arms. 

I've been wanting WPO for absolute donkeys; I think it's time to pull the trigger.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Toonces on November 27, 2020, 12:27:04 PM
I took a quick browse in the EiA forum and it's hard to determine how the game plays single player right now.  It looks like it's being heavily updated.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Skoop on November 27, 2020, 01:28:00 PM
Quote from: Redwolf on November 26, 2020, 03:13:05 PM
Quote from: Elvis on November 26, 2020, 03:08:24 PM
Quote from: Redwolf on November 26, 2020, 12:57:29 PM
Interesting that they have Combat Mission: Shock Force 2 on sale.

BFC (the developer) was always vehemently opposed to participating in Steam-like game sales. Quite a bit of a change combined with being on Steam in the first place. I hope good things come from this.

When we first released Shock Force 2 on Steam we mirrored the discounted price on the Battlefront website. We've done the same now (and actually will every time there is a Matrix and Steam sale).

Also, if the game is purchased through Matrix (or Battlefront) it gives you Steam access as well.  If it continues to prove worthwhile we expect other Combat Mission titles to become available on Steam.

Sounds good to me. A real A/B test of the two pricing styles. Best of luck.

So the BF site discount for former owners of SF1 is the same as the discount offered on steam sale for SF2 ?
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: hellfish6 on November 27, 2020, 01:31:36 PM
Just picked up War in the Pacific AE for 80% off. Thanks for the tipper. I'd been reading AARs for the game lately and while it looks way too involved for me, I wanted to give it a chance.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Sir Slash on November 27, 2020, 03:33:44 PM
I like Monster Wargames, but it was too much for me.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Boggit on November 27, 2020, 04:57:03 PM
I think Jejo68 and Atilla60 recently finished their game of WitP AE --- and it literally took them years!!!  :wow:
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Toonces on November 27, 2020, 06:32:19 PM
@Hellfish6, I've been working through the stock Guadalcanal scenario and I'm quite enjoying it.  Turns move much more quickly since there are much fewer units and a much smaller area with which to be concerned.  The focus is really tight.

I'd recommend starting with that if you're new to the game before jumping into the full campaign. 

There are also a couple of smaller scenarios available for download; I posted links to them a while back in the main WitP:AE thread here on Grogheads.  I can't remember where I got them from at this point but a search should turn them up.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: hellfish6 on November 27, 2020, 09:56:50 PM
I started the Aleutian scenario. It seemed a bit more manageable and I know almost nothing about that theater of the war. Once I'm comfortable with the game, I'll move on to Guadalcanal. I want to make a battleship god out of Ching Lee, just like he was in real life.

I did learn you can't alt-tab the game without screwing up all the fonts. Uff... 11-year-old hex games.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Elvis on November 28, 2020, 06:53:29 PM
Quote from: Skoop on November 27, 2020, 01:28:00 PM
Quote from: Redwolf on November 26, 2020, 03:13:05 PM
Quote from: Elvis on November 26, 2020, 03:08:24 PM
Quote from: Redwolf on November 26, 2020, 12:57:29 PM
Interesting that they have Combat Mission: Shock Force 2 on sale.

BFC (the developer) was always vehemently opposed to participating in Steam-like game sales. Quite a bit of a change combined with being on Steam in the first place. I hope good things come from this.

When we first released Shock Force 2 on Steam we mirrored the discounted price on the Battlefront website. We've done the same now (and actually will every time there is a Matrix and Steam sale).

Also, if the game is purchased through Matrix (or Battlefront) it gives you Steam access as well.  If it continues to prove worthwhile we expect other Combat Mission titles to become available on Steam.

Sounds good to me. A real A/B test of the two pricing styles. Best of luck.

So the BF site discount for former owners of SF1 is the same as the discount offered on steam sale for SF2 ?

No. People who owned all of the original series can get everything Upgraded to CMSF2 for only $35 (compared to about $81 during the sale and $115 normally) . A lot less than the full package on either our site or Steam's. Same with the base game. If you only have the original base game it is only $15 to Upgrade it to CMSF2 (compared to $42 during the sale and $60 normally). Those Upgrades can only be done through the Battlefront site but they do give you access to the Steam version too.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: airboy on November 28, 2020, 08:10:05 PM
I picked up Shadow Empires.  Read most of the manual before purchasing.  Now to actually figure it out in play.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: jamus34 on November 29, 2020, 06:58:33 AM
It's been mentioned but DasTactic has a great "Let's Learn" series for SE on YouTube.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Crossroads on November 29, 2020, 12:11:46 PM
Not a sales item, but I had no idea this was in the making: Decisive Campaigns: Ardennes Offensive

https://twitter.com/Matrix_Wargames/status/1333093795613855749

:notworthy:

Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Sir Slash on November 29, 2020, 12:16:37 PM
FINALLY, 2020 has produced something to live through it for.  :clap:
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Crossroads on November 29, 2020, 12:42:56 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on November 29, 2020, 12:16:37 PM
FINALLY, 2020 has produced something to live through it for.  :clap:
Indeed! Also, I think I saw an advert for Flashpoint Campaigns: Southern Storm nearing completion as well  :smitten:
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: nelmsm on November 29, 2020, 08:38:59 PM
Quote from: Crossroads on November 29, 2020, 12:42:56 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on November 29, 2020, 12:16:37 PM
FINALLY, 2020 has produced something to live through it for.  :clap:
Indeed! Also, I think I saw an advert for Flashpoint Campaigns: Southern Storm nearing completion as well  :smitten:
Flashpoint Campaign news caught my eye as well. Been waiting for that one!
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Crossroads on November 30, 2020, 11:57:29 AM
Quote from: nelmsm on November 29, 2020, 08:38:59 PM
Quote from: Crossroads on November 29, 2020, 12:42:56 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on November 29, 2020, 12:16:37 PM
FINALLY, 2020 has produced something to live through it for.  :clap:
Indeed! Also, I think I saw an advert for Flashpoint Campaigns: Southern Storm nearing completion as well  :smitten:
Flashpoint Campaign news caught my eye as well. Been waiting for that one!

Here's the latest regarding FPC:SS:

https://twitter.com/Matrix_Wargames/status/1333453711763529732
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: WallysWorld on December 22, 2020, 12:13:12 PM
I finally bought FoG: Empires along with the DLC using my 44% off anniversary coupon on top of the sale. Excellent price. Good game so far.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Toonces on December 22, 2020, 12:24:51 PM
You know, I might have to give FoG a serious look.  I find myself playing less Total War because I just get overwhelmed with all the clicky-clicky during the battles.  I might groove on the slower turn-based pace of FoG.

If I got Empires, I'd have to get FoG so I could play out the tactical battles.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Sir Slash on December 22, 2020, 03:12:58 PM
The game still looks hard to play and hard to win to me. What say you all?
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Gusington on December 22, 2020, 03:53:04 PM
^Well worth every penny and second you put into the FoG series, Toonces.

Empires for me is hard to win - it can get daunting.

The stitched together campaigns of regular FoGII I still enjoy, and I can win them on 'normal' difficulty.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Tripoli on December 23, 2020, 12:01:28 PM
Quote from: Toonces on December 22, 2020, 12:24:51 PM
You know, I might have to give FoG a serious look.  I find myself playing less Total War because I just get overwhelmed with all the clicky-clicky during the battles.  I might groove on the slower turn-based pace of FoG.

If I got Empires, I'd have to get FoG so I could play out the tactical battles.

FoG2 is very good.  It is definitely worth your time and money
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: Vintage Dude on December 25, 2020, 09:38:13 PM
Bought the following with my 50% anniversary coupon:
8 Order of Battle games
Legion Gold
FOGE Persia
Shadow Empire
I probably have 40 games on Steam that I haven't played.
I collect fine games instead of fine wines.
Title: Re: Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale
Post by: 88mmkwk on January 12, 2021, 07:30:15 PM
Years ago, I bought my first Matrix game on the last day of a Christmas sale.  Now, I get my anniversary coupon always with like 1 day to go to buy everything.  So I again made my buy this year on the last day of the sale after getting my coupon the day before.  There was really nothing tugging on my wallet this year.  I - like others here - end up buying games and not playing them.  But I take solace in supporting a wargaming hobby/community I love dearly, so I don't consider it money wasted.  Anyway, here was my relatively small haul this year from the last day of the Matrix 2020 Holiday Sale where I was able to also add my 44% anniversary coupon discount to:








GameRegular PriceHoliday SaleFinal Price
Gary Grigsby's War in the West$79.99$24.00$13.44
Gary Grigsby's War in the West - Operation Torch$19.99$9.80$5.49
Vietnam '65$9.99$2.50$1.40
Shadow Empire$39.99$31.99$17.91
Total:
$149.96$38.24

I grabbed Gary Grigsby's War in the West as I recently started watching tutorial videos on War in the Pacific : Admiral's Edition and have found myself enjoying the detail more that I thought I would.  I completely attribute this to the quality of the tutorials made by Strategy Gaming Dojo.  With the recent announcement that War in the East was being upgraded, I decided to instead get War in the West as I understand that it has a lot of the changes that will be backfit to War in the East.  So I figure that learning War in the West will help out when I eventually end up buying War in the East 2.  Getting War in the West and the Operation Torch expansion for under $20 was a deal I couldn't pass up.

Vietnam '65 was a buy of something to play when I don't have a lot of time.  At $1.40, if I enjoy it for 5 minutes, I will have gotten my money's worth  ^-^

Lastly, I got Shadow Empire purely as my "support an Indie developer" buy.  I read the forums on Matrix and here regularly about it and have both Advanced Tactics and Advanced Tactics Gold.  I admire Vic's work on Shadow Empire and Decisive Campaigns: Barbarossa and want to support his work.  Who knows - by the time I get around to actually playing Shadow Empire, Naval unit implementation and maybe even Jarhead's dream of a space expansion 4X capability will be ready!  $17.91 is a small price for what I know is a great game from a great developer....