Just saw this while over on the Naval Action forum. No details yet, but it looks nice. Same people who do the Ultimate General series I believe.
https://forum.game-labs.net/topic/27840-work-in-progress-uitimate-admiral-age-of-sail/ (https://forum.game-labs.net/topic/27840-work-in-progress-uitimate-admiral-age-of-sail/)
Hmm...which is supposed to come out first? This or Ultimate Admiral - Dreadnoughts?
Quote from: RedArgo on December 18, 2018, 01:15:04 PM
Just saw this while over on the Naval Action forum. No details yet, but it looks nice. Same people who do the Ultimate General series I believe.
https://forum.game-labs.net/topic/27840-work-in-progress-uitimate-admiral-age-of-sail/ (https://forum.game-labs.net/topic/27840-work-in-progress-uitimate-admiral-age-of-sail/)
Looks pretty fun. Sort of reminds me of the earliest Sid Meyer's pirates where you could land your musketeers and spike the guns etc. etc.
Quote from: Gusington on December 18, 2018, 02:20:02 PM
Hmm...which is supposed to come out first? This or Ultimate Admiral - Dreadnoughts?
Whoever wins, we win?! :smitten:
I really WANTSNEEDS Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts. I get a little nervous when developers, especially small ones, start announcing projects all willy nilly wacky fruity...focus, man!
I agree, they need to focus on finishing Naval Action first, before they do more Ultimate games.
I scour the internet every other day looking for release info on Dreadnoughts...IIRC some kind of testing began about a month ago but I don't know if it was alpha, beta, etc.
Quote from: Gusington on December 19, 2018, 10:01:42 AM
I really WANTSNEEDS Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts. I get a little nervous when developers, especially small ones, start announcing projects all willy nilly wacky fruity...focus, man!
They probably spoke to some marketting experts and it went like this:
Marketting Experts: So what's this "dreadnoughts" thing?
Developers: Is way to speak of...things...
Marketting Experts: What kind of things?
Developers: Predreadnoughts so far.
Marketting: Oh I like that...kind of a thing before another thing..like pre-owned or pre-baked
Developers: Exactly
Marketting: so there were some kind of precursor ships, like aliens, but built in shipyards
Developers: Exactly
Marketting: Could some of them be aliens
Developers: or vampires
Marketting: like in Nova Scotia?
Developers: Or other islands...maybe
Marketting: Islands are a good idea...could we have more of those
Developers: Sure
Marketting: with pirates and vampires and aliens -- it could be all new -- none of those are popular unlike say, cowboys or zombies
Developers: No...no pirates...we had those...aliens and cowboys and vampires -- sure
Marketing: and could have a catchy name like shampoo
developers: sounds very good
Marketting: again, shampoo isn't popular, but that's what's so good about it-- it goes with vampires, aliens and cowboys
^ I love you.
Can I have the game now?
Quote from: Gusington on December 19, 2018, 02:50:35 PM
^ I love you.
Can I have the game now?
They are working on it. It looks like Sid Meyer's Pirates! X10 but without the pirates!
:(
Ultimate Weirdnoughts
Pretty sure that's either Man-o-War Corsair, or the Battlefleet Gothic games. :))
Single player only has me concerned. As does it being so simple like total war naval battles, which were kinda passé. But I love the idea of landings. Will land battles be included? I cannot imagine this will be as good as naval action in terms of immersion? Unless we are building the ships to a complicated plan etc. what of the age of steam game from the same team?
Quote from: JasonPratt on December 19, 2018, 10:13:40 PM
Pretty sure that's either Man-o-War Corsair, or the Battlefleet Gothic games. :))
I think the working title is Command (because its the dullest title they could come up with and they want to stay away complex
real-time, rogue-like strategy-oriented sandbox names like Vampire Umpire Empire, or Cowboy Shampoo)
PS...by the way Steam and Iron (or even Steamed and Ironing or even the Irony of Steam or the Steam of Irony) is a great name and should be used as a working title
for any naval game...I think.
'Cowboy Shampoo'...
I think I saw them play live at Toad's Place in New Haven, back in 88 or 89. Or maybe that was 'Rinse Rodeo'. So many years and brain cells ago... hard to be sure.
HAHAHA 'Wing wins the internet today for his Toad's Place reference!
JasonPrattonauts
Cowboy Shampoo == clearly an anime title for a crazy homage to the neo-classic anime Cowboy Bebop.
(Actual anime title for a crazy homage to the neo-classic anime Rurouni Kenshin, was Samurai Champloo.)
I had a cowboy offer to take a shower with me once so he could show me his Cowboy Shampoo. Weird because it was just regular shampoo. :idiot2:
Quote from: Sir Slash on December 20, 2018, 03:08:17 PM
I had a cowboy offer to take a shower with me once so he could show me his Cowboy Shampoo. Weird because it was just regular shampoo. :idiot2:
That's so weird. It's like this Command (modern naval combat game) dream I had where my neighbor's cat told me his name was "Lonesome"
Pardon me, I thought I clicked on the Ultimate Admiral thread! Instead it's the "Brokeback Mountain" thread.
Grogheads.
You can't live with them, and you can't use a bulldozer on them.
You need some Cowboy Shampoo in your life. :hug:
Quote from: bobarossa on December 20, 2018, 06:31:09 PM
Pardon me, I thought I clicked on the Ultimate Admiral thread! Instead it's the "Brokeback Mountain" thread.
You mean Command: Brokeback Mountain?
:buck2:
Was the old Age of Sail, Real Time or Turn Based? Been so long I don't remember. Have the CD around here somewhere! AOSII.
Real time
The old Age of Sail was kind of Piratey, and was in realtime. I've got AoS2 sitting in a shrink wrap within 2 feet of my computer chair at home.
Yeah, mine was called Privateer's bounty or something like that.
I received newsletter saying available for pre-order, which certain levels grant you access to the alpha right now.....of course I caved and bought right away:)
https://www.aos.ultimateadmiral.com/post/pre-order-packs
Me too. Have to admit the way this game is shaping up is making me more interested.
Do you have to be logged in to the forum to purchase?
Quote from: Gusington on June 25, 2019, 06:58:06 PM
Me too. Have to admit the way this game is shaping up is making me more interested.
Do you have to be logged in to the forum to purchase?
No, I wasn't logged in when purchased...however, when you access the game itself, you need to create an account and use it. Right now they provide an installer and a key to it.
Well, first battle me as british and AI as spain....they completely destroyed me. I have a lot to learn how to steer and fight in this type of game:)
I was excited at first because I thought this was the one with dreadnaughts that's being developed.
Still like this one too with the age of sail, might be what I was hoping Naval Action would have been with more SP focus.
I'll probably breakdown and get the EA.
I'm definitely more interested in the Dreadnaughts game but this looks to be really ambitious.
How much is it? didn't see a price on the site or steam.
Yeah me neither.
29.99 for pre order but no alpha access
49.99 with alpha access
79.99 all the above but get names in credits
All this is on official site
https://www.aos.ultimateadmiral.com/
I got the Commodore Edition with alpha access. Its limited to just a couple of scenarios and its clearly got awhile to go, but I really like what I am seeing so far. Reminds me of the older title Age of Sail.
Yep me too
No USMC Edition for JH?
Weird I didn't see the Buy Now button anywhere yesterday. If this game is even half as good as the Ultimate General series it will be awesome. I just hope the studio is not spread thin with this and the dreadnaught game in development simultaneously.
They released an updated version, which now includes a land invasion basic tutorial. Still very early, but nice to see some of the land fighting, which as expected seems much like their Civil War game, but at a little slower pace. Hard to really get a feel with just a basic tutorial but good to see progress continues.
What theatre and war does it seem to be set in?
Quote from: Destraex on July 08, 2019, 06:54:56 AM
What theatre and war does it seem to be set in?
game's description....
Ultimate Admiral: Age of Sail is a tactical war-game from the creators of the Ultimate General series set amidst the epic naval campaigns in period of the American Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars.
ROYAL NAVY CAMPAIGN
You will take control of famed naval commander Horatio Nelson and follow his life and career to protect England and become the famous admiral of legend. Rule Britannia, Britannia rule the waves.
US NAVY CAMPAIGN
You will aid fledgling America as naval commander John Paul Jones. Your mission, to reorganize our burgeoning navy and lead them to victory, taking the first step in becoming a rising superpower.
We missed it, but July 6 was John Paul Jones' birthday.
Consonant dissonance.
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on July 08, 2019, 07:16:38 AM
Quote from: Destraex on July 08, 2019, 06:54:56 AM
What theatre and war does it seem to be set in?
game's description....
Ultimate Admiral: Age of Sail is a tactical war-game from the creators of the Ultimate General series set amidst the epic naval campaigns in period of the American Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars.
ROYAL NAVY CAMPAIGN
You will take control of famed naval commander Horatio Nelson and follow his life and career to protect England and become the famous admiral of legend. Rule Britannia, Britannia rule the waves.
US NAVY CAMPAIGN
You will aid fledgling America as naval commander John Paul Jones. Your mission, to reorganize our burgeoning navy and lead them to victory, taking the first step in becoming a rising superpower.
That scope is insane
In re to the career of Horatio Nelson, would that include the lawsuits brought by yankee captains after Nelson enforced the Navigation Laws while captain of Hinchingbroke? It became so contentious that he stopped going ashore to avoid agents of the civil courts, and had to transfer out of the Caribbean back to England.
The one I'd like to try is if he would have caught the French invasion fleet heading to Egypt. He actually passed it at night, the French heard the english fleet firing signal guns. When he got to Alexandria he had missed the French and there was no word of the invasion force.
The english consul was away and Nelson couldn't bring himself to wait another day, so sailed off to check further east.
The following morning, the French fleet showed up.
It all ended well at Aboukir Bay, but a sea battle might have been very interesting.
And would probably end Bonaparte's career.
Quote from: besilarius on July 09, 2019, 06:12:33 AM
It all ended well at Aboukir Bay
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^Ha! It will be fantastic if the Nelson campaign includes Egypt.
Hopefully, it will! But I just don't see how it wouldn't if they are to give justice to the man. Apart from small interludes the likes of Copenhagen, he wouldn't be the man he became without a succession of well known moments of glory against the Frenchs and the Spaniards. If I am to believe the scope of command of this upcoming title, you will be able to follow in Nelson's steps from the moment he got his first command with HMS Albermale.
I sincerely hope they'll be able to convey all this. Not sure how far the roleplaying might extend to his marriage and his love life though :knuppel2:
If done with that amount of detail, the Nelson campaign has the potential to be one of the best PC wargame campaigns ever. Ever!!
Does he still die at the end?
No!!
Just came back to this today...it is really shaping up into a fantastic game. Lots of fun clashing at sea and then sending Marines and army units ashore to seize towns and forts. Really great stuff.
It's in...beta?
I'm glad they went SP with this, naval action didn't quite do it for me. But this one looks to be what I'm looking for. Dreadnaughts too.
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Why have I not bought this yet?
I just asked myself the same question.
John Paul Jones is a curious historical figure. One can't fault his determination, but there's a fine line between valor and indiscretion, and Jones seemed to have no awareness that such a line even existed.
His career was wildly unsuccessful for a long time. When he finally made a name for himself, it was based on a handful of audacious but inconsequential raids he conducted on the British mainland (is that an oxymoron?) and one or two successful fights against the British navy. The privateers did more to hurt the English economy through rising insurance rates than through the actual capture of many warships, but in a war where every bit of effort counts, the work of the privateers certainly counted!
It was an interesting contrast to what the US Navy did in the War of 1812, where a half-dozen American frigates did far more good sitting in harbor, demanding a constant blockade from far-ranging British ports in Canada, than they likely would have done at sea. Think about the math: Six US frigates demanded the attention of approximately 18 British frigates for most of the war (one on blockade duty, one sailing to or fro, and one getting overhauled).
When those U.S. frigates had to fight, they acquitted themselves very well, serving to puncture the myth of the invincibility of the British Navy and helping to discourage the British from further prosecution of the War of 1812. But, mostly, they generated most of their value by sitting in harbor and demanding attention.
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on February 04, 2020, 12:44:03 AM
John Paul Jones is a curious historical figure. One can't fault his determination, but there's a fine line between valor and indiscretion, and Jones seemed to have no awareness that such a line even existed.
Damn fine bass/keyboard player, though
HA
Quote from: Father Ted on February 04, 2020, 01:13:00 PM
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on February 04, 2020, 12:44:03 AM
John Paul Jones is a curious historical figure. One can't fault his determination, but there's a fine line between valor and indiscretion, and Jones seemed to have no awareness that such a line even existed.
Damn fine bass/keyboard player, though
Indeed he is!
If you purchase a pack on their website do you get a steam key and able to play asap?
Quote from: AchillesLastStand on February 04, 2020, 01:53:04 PM
If you purchase a pack on their website do you get a steam key and able to play asap?
If you want to play asap you will need the commodore edition.
CAPTAIN EDITION
Digital product key for Ultimate Admiral: Age of Sail on EA and release, redeemable on Steam in early 2020
Buy 29.99$
COMMODORE EDITION
Digital product key for Ultimate Admiral: Age of Sail, including access to closed Alpha Build.
Buy 49.99$
Yeah that's what Game Labs did with Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnaughts and there is a surprising amount of content for a game in alpha.
Did you buy it Gus? I still havent things a little tight here (I did pick up the EU IV bundle) - If you did what do you think?
I did buy Dreadnaught's and have tinkered with it a bit - it is in a very impressive state for an alpha.
I have not bought Age of Sail yet but it's inevitable.
Will also buy that newly announced pirate game when it's available.
I wonder how many people are on staff full time now at Game Labs...
Dabbling with this again on Sunday. Once again compelled to sing its praises. It has such great atmosphere and the combination of naval battles, boarding and landing operations/ground battles really hits a rare sweet spot. The campaign, although still in fairly early stages, is oozing with atmosphere style.
I encourage all with an interest in this time period and subject matter to buy this now to support the developer. Its a superb effort all around.
It looks like this and Dreadnoughts are no longer available for purchase. I guess release is imminent...
Quote from: Toonces on February 23, 2020, 01:55:46 PM
It looks like this and Dreadnoughts are no longer available for purchase. I guess release is imminent...
The games are purchasable directly through the dev's website, it's not available for purchase on Steam yet.
I picked up UA: Dreadnoughts a while back and never sunk much time into it, but the battles I did play were very impressive. I'll have to follow the word of the Grogs and pick up Age of Sail. Watching videos on youtube made me realize how unscratched my "Early Modern Strategy" itch has gone ever since I stopped playing Empire: Total War years ago.
Quote from: Toonces on February 23, 2020, 01:55:46 PM
It looks like this and Dreadnoughts are no longer available for purchase. I guess release is imminent...
Links al_infierno mentioned :
https://www.aos.ultimateadmiral.com/
https://www.dreadnoughts.ultimateadmiral.com/pre-order
Ahhh...ok. I just went page 5 to page 1, back to page 5 LOL.
I think Age of Sail will Ben completed before Dreadnaught, right?
Quote from: Gusington on February 23, 2020, 02:39:10 PM
I think Age of Sail will Ben completed before Dreadnaught, right?
Yes.
According to their website Age of Sail is to be released soon. (early access option is removed from the site - now you can only buy a key for the Steam release)
Dreadnaughts is due in the first half of 2020.
Both make me quite GIGGITY.
Quote from: Gusington on February 24, 2020, 09:44:13 AM
Both make me quite GIGGITY.
To be fair a lot makes you GIGGITY Gus ;) but yeah excited here too
Don't hate the GIGGITY. Embrace it.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1069650/Ultimate_Admiral_Age_of_Sail/
Released (early access) on Steam today : 40 € (= $ 40 ?)
Want it but will wait for a sale
Me too, I will definately own this but I'm waiting for a sale. Too many irons in the fire and with all the new changes in naval action, my sailing combat needs will be ok until this hits sale point.
+1 on waiting
Looking forward to folks' impressions
Sad to see many waiting. It's really a fantastic game.
Have had this wish listed for a while some of the steam reviews aren't really great, or even good for that matter. Says the ground battles are really bad.
Quote from: AchillesLastStand on March 04, 2020, 01:19:23 PM
Have had this wish listed for a while some of the steam reviews aren't really great, or even good for that matter. Says the ground battles are really bad.
I've really enjoyed the ground battles. What are people expecting? Total War?
Overall, I have had a great time with this title. I think my reputation as a grog is pretty solid...steam reviewers? Not so much! :crazy2:
Quote from: AchillesLastStand on March 04, 2020, 01:19:23 PM
Says the ground battles are really bad.
They are like in the Ultimate General games (Gettysburg - Civil War) and those have rather high ratings.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 04, 2020, 12:47:54 PM
Sad to see many waiting. It's really a fantastic game.
I know, I hate to be like that because it seems like a great game. I don't play 10 games at once, and my attention is pretty focused with Dcs and star citizen. Just not feeling in an age of sale mood right now. That might change by summer once this current fixation runs its course.
How does the game deal with boarding ships ? Is it aninmated marines and sailors fighting on the decks or is it abstracted like naval action ?
Quote from: Skoop on March 04, 2020, 04:18:03 PM
How does the game deal with boarding ships ? Is it aninmated marines and sailors fighting on the decks or is it abstracted like naval action ?
Yes. Animated. When conditions of range, speed and angle are met, ropes and hooks are thrown between ships and the crews and marines have at it. Very cool.
Quote from: Skoop on March 04, 2020, 04:03:08 PM
Just not feeling in an age of sale mood right now.
Pretty much all of my buying occurs during an "age of sale". Well except for FOG:E and I've yet to put more than a couple hours into it so far.
I loved the battles in the Ultimate General series and actually did well in fighting them, so...GIGGITY
Anyone have any updated thoughts on this one? Hankering for some Age of Sail but the reviews, particularly on enemy scaling, aren't the best.
Quote from: challerain on June 30, 2020, 03:55:52 PM
Anyone have any updated thoughts on this one? Hankering for some Age of Sail but the reviews, particularly on enemy scaling, aren't the best.
I still love it.
Thanks. I know I will break down before July 9th :)
Quote from: Toonces on February 23, 2020, 01:55:46 PM
It looks like this and Dreadnoughts are no longer available for purchase. I guess release is imminent...
It is. Dreadnoughts is soon. As in VERY SOON.
:)
^For Steam early access yes. But a playable campaign is still 5-6 months away for Dreadnoughts. I've been playing through some of the 50 available missions and have had a lot of fun with the game, even without the campaign. When Game Labs announced on their forums that the playable campaign would be delayed until the end of the year I thought there was going to be a riot.
This game does look great, but the crazy thing is, I went full blown into Naval action. Like put a thousand hours in playing with an MP clan that does Trafalgar style ship of the line battles. After all that, I don't even care about this game, my age of sail itch is beyond scratched. I probably wont get this until next years steam sale when it's 5 bucks.
Now dreadnoughts is a different story, can't wait till the campaign is released for that one.
I was a little surprised to find a "must win" scenario opening the British campaign. I tried once and failed (I know I suck). I will try again...but had I known this was the way of it, I may not have bought it.
I was thinking the game was more "open"...something like a "Total War" game.
Quote from: challerain on June 30, 2020, 03:55:52 PM
Anyone have any updated thoughts on this one? Hankering for some Age of Sail but the reviews, particularly on enemy scaling, aren't the best.
I love this game up to a point. It's fantastic for small actions with 2 or 3 or 4 ships a side, but it turns into micromanagement hell in medium-sized battles or larger. Sadly, there are only a handful of small battles in each of the 2 campaigns, and for some reason they are interspersed with land battles. The land battles are kind of nice if not as good as the ones in Ultimate General, but mainly, come on, this is a naval game!
I fell stone cold in love with it when I started playing but it just didn't take nearly as long as it should have for me to have played all the battles I really wanted to play and start into the ones that are more like work. And not all that much longer for me to play all the good battles in each campaign twice or more.
The battle scaling has stopped me, just not needed for your average player that just wants to have fun..
Quote from: FlickJax on July 15, 2020, 04:04:18 AM
The battle scaling has stopped me, just not needed for your average player that just wants to have fun..
Apparently the scaling is somewhat mitigated (I haven't gotten to where you might see the button you can pick to shut it off for a particular battle) and it was on sale for 29 bucks yesterday. I've been messing with the "custom battles" (of course) and so far those are fun in a vaguely Sid Meyer's Pirates! kind of way.
One fun thing is the enormous variety of equipment, guns, muskets and such.
Quote from: MengJiao on August 13, 2020, 07:15:53 AM
Quote from: FlickJax on July 15, 2020, 04:04:18 AM
The battle scaling has stopped me, just not needed for your average player that just wants to have fun..
Apparently the scaling is somewhat mitigated (I haven't gotten to where you might see the button you can pick to shut it off for a particular battle) and it was on sale for 29 bucks yesterday. I've been messing with the "custom battles" (of course) and so far those are fun in a vaguely Sid Meyer's Pirates! kind of way.
One fun thing is the enormous variety of equipment, guns, muskets and such.
The ships sail well and for the Royal navy, the flags change for each squadron. For the French, there's always the tricolor even on the "Le Souverain"...another cool thing is that crews that escape from a sinking ship will reinforce other ships.
^Great shot. Is there a campaign mode yet?
Waiting for the campaign to be introduced in Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnoughts but having fun in the built out missions and the custom missions in the meantime.
Quote from: Gusington on August 22, 2020, 09:25:37 PM
^Great shot. Is there a campaign mode yet?
Waiting for the campaign to be introduced in Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnoughts but having fun in the built out missions and the custom missions in the meantime.
There has been a campaign mode for a really long time.
Quote from: challerain on June 30, 2020, 03:55:52 PM
Anyone have any updated thoughts on this one? Hankering for some Age of Sail but the reviews, particularly on enemy scaling, aren't the best.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1069650
Quote6. "No adaptation" mode in campaign difficulty. We have to collect data to balance the mode.
7. New feature: you can change the difficulty of a battle. The increment of difficulty will offer a bonus reward, lowering will decrease reward.
I believe "no adaptation" means no scaling, and it's optional. They also finished beta testing and are implementing several features from a darthmod balance mod largely to promote the importance of cannon fire vs boarding, which has been overpowered.
I had a really good time with this game for a while. but kind of ran into a brick wall with the overly difficult later scenarios. I am definitely going to check it out again because these changes sound like just what it needed.
So would the no scaling help what your talking about with the later scenarios?
I'm so deep in naval action right now I'll probably never bother with this until it's 5 dolla Christmas sale.
The Dreadnoughts is a different story as there's not much else as an alternative. That one will be a buy when the campaigns released.
^I'm having a ton of fun with Dreadnoughts right now with about 50 pre-built missions and custom missions available, and no campaign yet...which is hard to believe 'cause I love me some campaignin'.
^ that's good to hear. I'm getting this at some point, I love the era.
Yes - it's clear from what is in the game already that the developer (Nikolas - 'Darth Vader' from Total War modding days) loves it too. It is still a ways behind Age of Sail, as far as the campaign, but very fun with a lot of content already present.
New "Barbary War" DLC released for free to early access backers.
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An important historical period of US history at the beginning of the 19th century is introduced in the new DLC "Barbary War". The DLC is free for all Early Access buyers and transfers the player into the early forming of the United States as a new country, capable of protecting itself and its citizens. You will be able to stop the extortions and atrocities of pirates in North Africa, organize the first landing operation on foreign territory in the history of the United States, and feel the power of "Old Ironsides" USS Constitution and other legendary American ships.
We have fully reworked the movement mechanics of the in-game soldiers, so that their animations and behavior are much smoother and more realistic.
Additionally, we worked on improving the naval AI, making the AI ships to maneuver much more intelligently.
We've fixed a number of crashes and memory leaks and upgraded the game engine. All those improvements have significantly increased the game stability, which was one of our main goals for this update. Unfortunately, there are still some known crash issues and we are working to eliminate them.
Patch notes:
1. Barbary War DLC. The DLC is free for all Early Access buyers.
2. New game engine.
3. Improvements and fixes in naval AI, tuning in Naval AI aiming.
4. Fixes of crash and bug reports.
5. Removed legacy deployment points information from intro maps.
6. Increased the limit of the number of soldiers in battle.
7. Added map navigation on edges of the screen.
8. Hints' appearance time is tuned.
9. Increased range for land artillery and mortars.
10. Various fixes in unit's attributes calculations.
11. Fixed issues with the grouping of units.
12. Fixes of memory leaks.
Many other changes and fixes.
Now that sounds great *runs to Steam*
So if I purchase now (on steam it seems that the game is still early access), I get the barbary campaign? Or was this more the early backers before you could purchase the game on steam?
Quote from: Destraex on September 16, 2020, 06:13:50 PM
So if I purchase now (on steam it seems that the game is still early access), I get the barbary campaign? Or was this more the early backers before you could purchase the game on steam?
I believe it is free only for pre-steam early backers. But go double check.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 16, 2020, 06:27:15 PM
Quote from: Destraex on September 16, 2020, 06:13:50 PM
So if I purchase now (on steam it seems that the game is still early access), I get the barbary campaign? Or was this more the early backers before you could purchase the game on steam?
I believe it is free only for pre-steam early backers. But go double check.
I would think "all Early Access buyers" means "all Early Access buyers" :crazy2:
Quote from: al_infierno on September 16, 2020, 06:34:44 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 16, 2020, 06:27:15 PM
Quote from: Destraex on September 16, 2020, 06:13:50 PM
So if I purchase now (on steam it seems that the game is still early access), I get the barbary campaign? Or was this more the early backers before you could purchase the game on steam?
I believe it is free only for pre-steam early backers. But go double check.
I would think "all Early Access buyers" means "all Early Access buyers" :crazy2:
I think all means all. I'm not a pre-Steam backer but am an Early Access buyer, and it showed up under my DLC tab without my having to do anything.
Confirmed if I get the game right on steam now I get the barbary campaign.
Source: moderators off the steam forum for the game.
Still torn since it's single player and not currently on sale.
Quote from: Destraex on September 17, 2020, 07:02:06 AM
Confirmed if I get the game right on steam now I get the barbary campaign.
Source: moderators off the steam forum for the game.
I have had it on steam since day one, but can't figure out how to get the DLC....comes up as a purchase for me.
Yeah I was hoping it would be on sale right now too.
You guys are such cheap bastages. How many quality Age of Sail games to you have to choose from now? The developer deserves the support! O0
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on September 17, 2020, 07:04:19 AM
Quote from: Destraex on September 17, 2020, 07:02:06 AM
Confirmed if I get the game right on steam now I get the barbary campaign.
Source: moderators off the steam forum for the game.
I have had it on steam since day one, but can't figure out how to get the DLC....comes up as a purchase for me.
It shows up in my library. But I bought the base game on their website
before it was released on steam.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 17, 2020, 08:17:22 AM
You guys are such cheap bastages. How many quality Age of Sail games to you have to choose from now? The developer deserves the support! O0
This board truly amuses me. Almost as much as TheChive, but for different reasons. All the lamenting and teeth-gnashing about lack of good wargames or creative designs for wargames. A good developer comes out with a game that is unique and different, and also gets generally good reviews. The first people on this board do is say they'll wait for a sale. Way to support a good developer.
The value of a new and innovative game goes down with the number of unplayed games in your inventory.
Quote from: RyanE on September 17, 2020, 10:27:21 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 17, 2020, 08:17:22 AM
You guys are such cheap bastages. How many quality Age of Sail games to you have to choose from now? The developer deserves the support! O0
This board truly amuses me. Almost as much as TheChive, but for different reasons. All the lamenting and teeth-gnashing about lack of good wargames or creative designs for wargames. A good developer comes out with a game that is unique and different, and also gets generally good reviews. The first people on this board do is say they'll wait for a sale. Way to support a good developer.
Yup. Sometimes we disappoint me too. :pullhair:
I agree, looks interesting and I'll get it at some point. I'm just too engaged in naval action to even bother with this.
I've enjoyed what little I've played of UA: AoS. The campaign needs some work. I would definitely consider buying it at full price if you are interested in fighting sail, particularly as there aren't a lot of game available from this era.
Quote from: Pete Dero on September 17, 2020, 08:28:12 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on September 17, 2020, 07:04:19 AM
Quote from: Destraex on September 17, 2020, 07:02:06 AM
Confirmed if I get the game right on steam now I get the barbary campaign.
Source: moderators off the steam forum for the game.
I have had it on steam since day one, but can't figure out how to get the DLC....comes up as a purchase for me.
It shows up in my library. But I bought the base game on their website before it was released on steam.
Yep, me too...I was in with the game from day one.
OK RyanE then I'll expect my gifted copy in Steam from you any minute now. Glad we can amuse you.
Quote from: Gusington on September 17, 2020, 11:01:38 AM
OK RyanE then I'll expect my gifted copy in Steam from you any minute now. Glad we can amuse you.
Not trying to stir the pot but this exchange reminds me of Joe Pesci and Ray Liotta at the beginning of Goodfellas. "I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you?" ;D
Well to be honest RyanE's obnoxious comment made me more annoyed the more I thought about it.
Usually people that spend or count other people's money are great at parties.
Anyway, not that it's any of RyanE's business, but I am a very early supporter of Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnoughts, which I commented on a few times up-thread and really enjoy.
And on top of that, I've been a founding member here since 2012 and worked at the Wargamer for 10 years before that. But he still felt the need to post 'way to support a good developer.'
Maybe I'm just sensitive.
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And btw JH's comment on me being a cheap bastage is true. But he can say that because he knows me.
Lately I pass on games not because of money cause that's no issue for me. I'll spare no expense if I feel the need to. It's the economy of time. I start triaging the game with an "am I really going to sit down and play this more that a few hours or is it going to Rip me away from what I'm currently obsessively playing." If the answer is no, I close the steam page and move on.
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on September 17, 2020, 07:04:19 AM
Quote from: Destraex on September 17, 2020, 07:02:06 AM
Confirmed if I get the game right on steam now I get the barbary campaign.
Source: moderators off the steam forum for the game.
I have had it on steam since day one, but can't figure out how to get the DLC....comes up as a purchase for me.
I thought I read somewhere that it may only be available on the beta branch at the moment?
Quote from: Destraex on September 17, 2020, 05:38:26 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on September 17, 2020, 07:04:19 AM
Quote from: Destraex on September 17, 2020, 07:02:06 AM
Confirmed if I get the game right on steam now I get the barbary campaign.
Source: moderators off the steam forum for the game.
I have had it on steam since day one, but can't figure out how to get the DLC....comes up as a purchase for me.
I thought I read somewhere that it may only be available on the beta branch at the moment?
Thanks, I ended up getting today. Strangely on the store page says I don't own it, but within the game I do.....
Cavalry has been added with the last update.
RyanE approved, I hope.
It's 25% off on Steam now, SnuffleupaGUS.
Think I'll take the plunge.
Just got that email! Are you creeping on me? I will buy it later today, with RyanE's full approval I hope.
25% off approval, this week only!
(totally creeping on you from the bushes)
I knew it
I got the Barbary Corsairs dlc when I thought I would have to pay extra for it. Anyway the below is for Ryan E. Now shut up.
(https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1636453689561180387/63FA58744DA767525522829A714C5FD8A4AA62E0/)
Opinions Please! Please, please, please.
Well I do like that I got the Barbary Corsairs dlc without having to pay extra and on discount. And I don't like RyanE. Those are my starting points.
And you look real purdy in them shorts/ Please stop closing the blinds.
???
Jeez man go take a cold shower.
^-^
Well, I was thinking about getting UA:AoS while it was "on sail", but I think I'm in the wrong forum :D
Opinions/guesses if it will be cheaper in the Autumn or Winter Sale???
nevermind...I caved >:(
Quote from: Gusington on October 01, 2020, 03:29:14 PM
Well I do like that I got the Barbary Corsairs dlc without having to pay extra and on discount. And I don't like RyanE. Those are my starting points.
Say Gus, how did you manage to get the Barbary Corsairs dlc for free? How do you get recognized as an EA buyer? Will they just include the dlc when I purchase the EA version, even if I get it on sale?
Questions, questions, questions.
Quote from: Sir Slash on October 01, 2020, 03:20:12 PM
Opinions Please! Please, please, please.
Mine is not good enough for you!? :'(
Quote from: Millipede on October 01, 2020, 04:47:51 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 01, 2020, 03:29:14 PM
Well I do like that I got the Barbary Corsairs dlc without having to pay extra and on discount. And I don't like RyanE. Those are my starting points.
Say Gus, how did you manage to get the Barbary Corsairs dlc for free? How do you get recognized as an EA buyer? Will they just include the dlc when I purchase the EA version, even if I get it on sale?
Questions, questions, questions.
Just now bought it and I got the Barbary Coast DLC.
Quote from: steve58 on October 01, 2020, 04:51:44 PM
Quote from: Millipede on October 01, 2020, 04:47:51 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 01, 2020, 03:29:14 PM
Well I do like that I got the Barbary Corsairs dlc without having to pay extra and on discount. And I don't like RyanE. Those are my starting points.
Say Gus, how did you manage to get the Barbary Corsairs dlc for free? How do you get recognized as an EA buyer? Will they just include the dlc when I purchase the EA version, even if I get it on sale?
Questions, questions, questions.
Just bought it and I got the Barbary Coast DLC.
Excellent, I'll give it a try. Thanks.
Honestly I totally forgot about the Barbary Coast DLC. But as you can see from the screenshot above everyone who buys now is an EA supporter, I suppose.
win/win
Quote from: steve58 on October 01, 2020, 04:51:44 PM
Quote from: Millipede on October 01, 2020, 04:47:51 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 01, 2020, 03:29:14 PM
Well I do like that I got the Barbary Corsairs dlc without having to pay extra and on discount. And I don't like RyanE. Those are my starting points.
Say Gus, how did you manage to get the Barbary Corsairs dlc for free? How do you get recognized as an EA buyer? Will they just include the dlc when I purchase the EA version, even if I get it on sale?
Questions, questions, questions.
Just now bought it and I got the Barbary Coast DLC.
Me too! Good looking game. I have no idea how to control anything. It's great! Chaos!
More attention should be focused on new customers getting the DLC for free. Who exactly is paying for it?
Sorry JH. No intention to hurt your feelings Man. :hug: The videos I've seen look a lot like Empire TW, so what's different other than a campaign to play? And why does Gus have his blinds open?
I know their different but This or Shadow Empire?
Quote from: FlickJax on October 02, 2020, 06:25:42 AM
I know their different but This or Shadow Empire?
Anyone? my Matrix voucher runs out tomorrow so need to make a decision
Quote from: FlickJax on October 02, 2020, 08:54:55 AM
Quote from: FlickJax on October 02, 2020, 06:25:42 AM
I know their different but This or Shadow Empire?
Anyone? my Matrix voucher runs out tomorrow so need to make a decision
Totally different games, hard to compare. If you have time sensitive coupon from Matrix, maybe go with Shadow and get Age of Sails game later...I am sure it will go on sale again.
I have it. In the limitted time I have played it, it is fun. The land battles have a TW-vibe to them. The naval model is fairly good, although I'm not sure it will work for more than a small squadron.
SE for sure. It still needs polishing, but it is an addictive, complete game. Admiral, not as much. SE has some (Two ) poorly documented but vital bits of feedback data that make it a whole lot easier to manage. I'll try to find a thread to post them.
Make that three - forgot about research.
Don't misunderstand, all the stuff is done in a great way! But the feedback to the player allowing him to manage it is lacking pretty badly on a couple of things. Posted items in the Shadow Empires thread http://www.grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=24408.165
As far as Ultimate Admiral goes, , it looks great and I am excited to have gotten it at 25% off.
https://www.twitch.tv/slitherinegroup
Streaming Shadow Empire right now.
Cheers guys, SE it is, will probably sit in my queue for a bit though :(
Enjoying UA:AOS. After it was released I picked it up. So I do not get the DLC. But I am over early access at the moment. Was happy to wait.
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Sending a boat over with an officer and crew to take control of an enemy that had struck her colours. If you do not do this the enemy eventually withdraws the strike and becomes active again. Of course destroying the vessel entirely and completely prevents any thoughts the enemy crew may have of shenanigans. If their ship starts to sink the enemy crew may board boats. I know not what happens if they reach any of my ships!
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Quote from: Destraex on April 15, 2021, 05:57:53 PM
Enjoying UA:AOS. After it was released I picked it up. So I do not get the DLC. But I am over early access at the moment. Was happy to wait.
Same here. It's ok, I'm enjoying it, but I'm not overly impressed given all the wait.
Playing the British campaign I find the abstract side battles where you just allocate resources with a possibility of loss a distraction and rather boring. I'd much rather you had to fight these rather than just lose the availability of units to your next battles. I think they did a better job with UG: Civil War - at least you could play out the side missions. The DLC, IMHO, is overpriced for what is supposed to be a short campaign, so I'll wait for a sale.
I really wish they'd explore doing dynamic campaigns as well, but they seem to like the scripted ones better.
Overall 6/10 - it's mostly enjoyable, but remains an average game. They do have a decent game engine, but frankly the game could have been so much better, given what they have already done with UG:CW and Age of Sail. I hope they do better with their Dreadnoughts game.
Yeah would love to play the side battles as well, but I think their whole idea there is that if you make it harder for yourself by denying yourself forces to fight larger battles. Which makes the larger battles much more challenging. However I guess you could do the side quests between turns rather than before battles? Or does that take some forces out for the next turn as well?
You know the other interesting thing. Darthmod was supposed to be an AI expert, however he then goes for scripted campaigns. I guess his AI is only at the tactical level?
I would liken UA:AOS to BattleTech in terms of campaign methodology. Lots of upgrading and management between canned missions. Difference is that it's realtime thank goodness.
I just noticed you can reman abandoned cannons which is really cool as well. It seems a lot of the naval action stuff came directly over to this game as well. Even the models look exactly the same. Which is a really good thing.
No stealing the wind by blocking it though, which is a newer feature of naval action.
I'd also rate the ultimate series games tactical battles WAAAAAAY above the more modern total war games. I enjoy watching these and can see what's going on. I don't need any dodgy flag substitution.
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How is the campaign ? Is just kinda scripted like ultimate general games or is there some flexibility ? Can you build your own fleets and move them around a strategic map which then initiates a tactical battle or is this on rails strategically ?
The campaign is on rails like ultimate general civil war. You have turns but do not move any pieces yourself. The area commander basically gives you orders via missions that appear on the map. Their are also side missions that appear for you to decide to do or not. I have never tried to press the end turn button without doing a main mission though. Each main mission also has a few methods of attack you can choose. Usually Frontal attack or Normal mission which give different reputation and money rewards. I hope and suspect that when I get further along I will have to choose between missions to determine the outcome of the war. In a real war I would be court martialed for not engaging even or better odds anyways. So it is not a big deal. The campaign takes you straight to the action. Albeit missing the luck and navigation elements of being able to patrol the campaign map.
I was a bit bummed that I could not patrol my ships around on the campaign map but am enjoying the game immensely none the less. I will probably finish the campaign and then move on to getting the dlc cheap.
EDIT: Ok so you cannot go to the next stage without completing all main battles. Orders are orders. However I know not if you can lose the battles and still move forwards. You can however choose to fight the available battles in whatever order you like. The side quests seem to happen between turns. You commit ships and get to see what happened the next turn, then repair any damage!
Here is an example of the battle map and what tactics I can use when choosing a battle; I have only ever chosen follow the orders.
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Here is what happens when I push the map button before deciding whether to go into the other engagement in this turn. The map does not change according to the 3 tactical options I can choose. There is an unfinished battle is shown because I tried to press next without playing any battles this turn.
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Quote from: Destraex on April 16, 2021, 07:27:11 AM
Yeah would love to play the side battles as well, but I think their whole idea there is that if you make it harder for yourself by denying yourself forces to fight larger battles. Which makes the larger battles much more challenging. However I guess you could do the side quests between turns rather than before battles? Or does that take some forces out for the next turn as well?
You know the other interesting thing. Darthmod was supposed to be an AI expert, however he then goes for scripted campaigns. I guess his AI is only at the tactical level?
I would liken UA:AOS to BattleTech in terms of campaign methodology. Lots of upgrading and management between canned missions. Difference is that it's realtime thank goodness.
I just noticed you can reman abandoned cannons which is really cool as well. It seems a lot of the naval action stuff came directly over to this game as well. Even the models look exactly the same. Which is a really good thing.
No stealing the wind by blocking it though, which is a newer feature of naval action.
I'd also rate the ultimate series games tactical battles WAAAAAAY above the more modern total war games. I enjoy watching these and can see what's going on. I don't need any dodgy flag substitution.
I pretty much agree with all you say.
As I say, I'm enjoying it, but they could have done much better as mentioned, if they had put their minds to it. Ships seem to sink or blow up far too regularly for the period compared to striking colours, which is a bit of a downer. I do like the management of weapons (although this was developed in UG:CW, so not exactly a new concept) and some of the firing mechanics on the plus side.
Good game though, though sadly this naval period isn't that well covered at this level. I can think of the Total War series or Age of Sail (Both the Talonsoft and by this company's earlier game of the same name), but that's about it.
The Capture of an SOL by little ships helped by a frigate, which unfortunately sunk. However I am now the Proud owner of the formerly Spanish 3rd rate of 68 guns, Arrogante. The next couple of mission better be easier! I want to enjoy this prize wessel. She cost me a fair few small ships sunk and some good officers.
By the way this mission is certainly doable without needing to capture the ship of the line. But I noticed that because I did the next turns missions mention me capturing it and saying I am up to a greater challenge! I am wondering whether I should have captured it now! Because I could have just used fireships to win instead!
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NICE Des! :bd:
Well. I barely escaped with my life in the next mission. Best to keep my head down and not to excel to much.
That's right. Next mission I was faced with 3 ships of the line and Frigates vs my single ship of the line, 1 corvette and my unrated 2 others. Still managed to capture one of their SOLs and steel away with one gold ship. But damn! This is the first mission where I have not completed all objectives.
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Still enjoying the campaign immensely. However the missions are rather long and taxing. I am glad you can save anywhere in battle and come back to finish later.
I am now posted to mare nostrum. Very impressed that we finally have a naval game that at least in part is set in Europe where a lot of the action happened. The campaign is very long winded and I am definitely getting my moneys worth. I am still on the British campaign and must have done at least 20 missions so far with no end in sight. Each mission with a story that seems to be fairly varied in nature. This game is really giving me a good idea of just how damned frustrating it is to maintain a line of battle. I really would have liked some more formation commands that let me close ranks a little more. I am slowly learning that the pause button is good for my ships bowsprit health :hide: I really get attached to my ships and hate losing them. I love renaming them. But find I love the default names as well. Rock and a hard place. One other thing I would love is a ship painter.... all the ships for various nations have ship colours that are very uniform.
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Those screenshots, to me at least, make this game look incredible...a game we have been begging for over decades! I really need to dive in :)
Yeah. It reminds me of Age of Sail II Privateer's Bounty. The little men running around the deck and the realistic way that all worked. It certainly is an incredible game. I kinda hope their are a few missions where I get to hunt slavers on the coasts of africa. But they would be gimmes really. Patrol work or simulation is not something this game does well or at all. That is another thing I would like, freedom to navigate after the enemy fleet. But the canned missions do mean that I am straight into the action. No time wasting.
Do you have the Barbary Coast DLC?
No not yet. The dlc was not cheap enough at the time.
I have it, but haven't played it yet - but I do think it has the types of North African missions you're looking for.