Deep Space 9 is 25 Years Old

Started by OJsDad, January 29, 2018, 07:52:27 PM

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Ah, the last Star Trek TV series.  :(
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Wife and I have been doing a rewatch with one of our friends who had never seen a single episode of DS9 but saw all TOS, VOY, and ENT.  It was a blasphemy that we made it an effort to not let stand. 

He's as stunned that he skipped it as we were.  It really is one of the best shows Star Trek produced, second only in my mind to Season 1-2 of TOS.
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OJsDad

Are you watching on DVD or did you find somewhere to stream it from.
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Quote from: SirAndrewD on January 29, 2018, 08:16:54 PM
Wife and I have been doing a rewatch with one of our friends who had never seen a single episode of DS9 but saw all TOS, VOY, and ENT.  It was a blasphemy that we made it an effort to not let stand. 

He's as stunned that he skipped it as we were.  It really is one of the best shows Star Trek produced, second only in my mind to Season 1-2 of TOS.

Plus, arguably, IMO the best Star Trek episode ever across each series in "The Visitor."

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SirAndrewD

Quote from: BanzaiCat on January 29, 2018, 08:44:52 PM
Plus, arguably, IMO the best Star Trek episode ever across each series in "The Visitor."

I wouldn't argue it.  I'd say decisively and without equivocation that it's the best.  City on the Edge of Forever is #2. 

It sadly lost for the Hugo to B5's "The Coming of Shadows" which was also a very worthy entry.  But, Visitor was better than Coming of Shadows, and that coming from a rabid B5 fan. 

The Hugo's are actually a bit absurd as it is, I have a close friend that has had more than one Hugo nomination who I won't name, and yeah, the process by which she was nominated and lost was kind of absurd.  But the general dismissiveness the Hugo's gave "The Visitor" is still a tragedy to this day.  On the show reels they did in the ceremony to highlight the episodes, they picked the one, tiny, technobabble moment of "The Visitor" as its representative moment.  Everyone at the Hugo's laughed at it, and clearly hadn't seen it.  Ridiculous.
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BanzaiCat

Quote from: SirAndrewD on January 29, 2018, 10:41:49 PM
On the show reels they did in the ceremony to highlight the episodes, they picked the one, tiny, technobabble moment of "The Visitor" as its representative moment.  Everyone at the Hugo's laughed at it, and clearly hadn't seen it.  Ridiculous.

That's awful, considering the many emotional moments of the episode. Someone must have had an axe to grind.

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Quote from: BanzaiCat on January 30, 2018, 07:07:53 AM
That's awful, considering the many emotional moments of the episode. Someone must have had an axe to grind.

There was a writeup about the Visitor on Tor.com by a Star Trek scriptwriter and author that attended the ceremony that year.  It was less an axe to grind and more that the Hugo's are not a juried award, anyone who wants to pay dues can vote, hell I was a Hugo voter for a couple of years.  That year the vast majority of the voters simply hadn't seen any DS9 at all, let alone the nominated episode.  Among the people that cared enough to be Hugo voters that year, most were very dismissive of modern Star Trek, and had written off DS9 after its first season. 

So, less an axe to grind, more prejudice against the brand held by the narrow subset of people that were voting on the award.
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BanzaiCat

Interesting, thanks. I didn't know that's how the Hugos worked.

OJsDad

Airboy wrote quite a bit about how the voting works for the Hugos a year or two ago. 

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