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Title: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: DoctorQuest on June 07, 2016, 08:28:50 AM
'nuff said.  O0
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Greybriar on June 07, 2016, 08:40:14 AM
Link (https://www.gog.com/game/homeworld_remastered_collection)
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: DoctorQuest on June 07, 2016, 08:42:37 AM
^Thanks. I should have thought of that. I was too busy purchasing.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Greybriar on June 07, 2016, 08:45:31 AM
You're welcome, DQ.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: mirth on June 07, 2016, 10:49:44 AM
Let me go check my Steam Library to see if I already own it.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: mirth on June 07, 2016, 10:50:48 AM
And I do  :crazy2:
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 07, 2016, 10:55:56 AM
Its not a good thing for GoG when steam is getting a hold of golden era classic games long before they are being released on GoG.  Had this been released on GoG back when it was released on Steam, it would have been huge. Now....who cares?
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: jamus34 on June 07, 2016, 11:02:04 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 07, 2016, 10:55:56 AM
Its not a good thing for GoG when steam is getting a hold of golden era classic games long before they are being released on GoG.  Had this been released on GoG back when it was released on Steam, it would have been huge. Now....who cares?

Agreed however I think this might be more of a function of gearbox rather than GOG. End result is the same though in that it hurts GOG.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: DoctorQuest on June 07, 2016, 11:45:51 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 07, 2016, 10:55:56 AM
Its not a good thing for GoG when steam is getting a hold of golden era classic games long before they are being released on GoG.  Had this been released on GoG back when it was released on Steam, it would have been huge. Now....who cares?

I am not as big a fan of Steam as some. I have my reasons which I don't need to go into now. Suffice it to say that this is a plus for me and maybe not others.

If it's not news, so be it.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 07, 2016, 12:05:27 PM
No disrespect intended...but really, gamers who do not use steam are the transgenders of the gaming world.  They represent .03% of the gaming community, yet occupy much of the discourse on DRM systems, often times, quite loudly.  :crazy2: 
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: mirth on June 07, 2016, 12:10:35 PM
I've said it before, the reason I have come to use Steam so much is that they make it relatively easy and they offer some insane deals on games I want. It's rare that there are ever problems that keep me from playing games I've purchased through Steam.

I am not a fan of DRM, but Steam is just too damned good (and cheap) not to use.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: DoctorQuest on June 07, 2016, 12:23:48 PM
I was not the one who turned this into a discussion about Steam. To each his own.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 07, 2016, 12:27:01 PM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on June 07, 2016, 12:23:48 PM
I was not the one who turned this into a discussion about Steam. To each his own.

Do you have a penis, a vagina or some combination of both?  >:D
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: DoctorQuest on June 07, 2016, 12:30:08 PM
So much for respect. I'm done here.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 07, 2016, 12:33:09 PM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on June 07, 2016, 12:30:08 PM
So much for respect. I'm done here.

Dude, what is your problem? Get a sense of humor, and yes, don't come back until you find one.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: DoctorQuest on June 07, 2016, 12:59:03 PM
I was just trying to do the folks a favor by announcing this event. Apologies all around if I let it get out of hand.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: mirth on June 07, 2016, 01:03:46 PM
I blame Gus.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: jamus34 on June 07, 2016, 01:11:05 PM
Quote from: mirth on June 07, 2016, 01:03:46 PM
I blame Gus.

Well we have sacrificed both of Gus's testicals to new game launches this year so I can see why he can be at fault...
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 07, 2016, 01:29:37 PM
Quote from: mirth on June 07, 2016, 01:03:46 PM
I blame Gus.

Please...we're talking about transgenders here. Surely Starfury bears a portion of the fault?
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 07, 2016, 01:30:31 PM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on June 07, 2016, 12:59:03 PM
I was just trying to do the folks a favor by announcing this event. Apologies all around if I let it get out of hand.

The announcement is appreciated. No need to apologize. I was just having some fun with you, bro.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: mirth on June 07, 2016, 01:33:36 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 07, 2016, 01:29:37 PM
Quote from: mirth on June 07, 2016, 01:03:46 PM
I blame Gus.

Please...we're talking about transgenders here. Surely Starfury bears a portion of the fault?

Star's gone full-on transspecies.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 07, 2016, 01:33:48 PM
Quote from: jamus34 on June 07, 2016, 01:11:05 PM
Quote from: mirth on June 07, 2016, 01:03:46 PM
I blame Gus.

Well we have sacrificed both of Gus's testicals to new game launches this year so I can see why he can be at fault...
I heard a rumour he has a third.

Thanks for the heads up DoctorQuest - oh heathen one who doth not like Steam!  >:D
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: DoctorQuest on June 07, 2016, 01:39:34 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 07, 2016, 01:33:48 PM
Quote from: jamus34 on June 07, 2016, 01:11:05 PM
Quote from: mirth on June 07, 2016, 01:03:46 PM
I blame Gus.

Well we have sacrificed both of Gus's testicals to new game launches this year so I can see why he can be at fault...
I heard a rumour he has a third.

Thanks for the heads up DoctorQuest - oh heathen one who doth not like Steam!  >:D

I'll be seeing all of you in hell, anyway. We can shout at the devil together.  O0
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: mirth on June 07, 2016, 01:42:04 PM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on June 07, 2016, 01:39:34 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 07, 2016, 01:33:48 PM
Quote from: jamus34 on June 07, 2016, 01:11:05 PM
Quote from: mirth on June 07, 2016, 01:03:46 PM
I blame Gus.

Well we have sacrificed both of Gus's testicals to new game launches this year so I can see why he can be at fault...
I heard a rumour he has a third.

Thanks for the heads up DoctorQuest - oh heathen one who doth not like Steam!  >:D

I'll be seeing all of you in hell, anyway. We can shout at the devil together.  O0

I've already booked a penthouse suite.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: JudgeDredd on June 07, 2016, 01:44:38 PM
Quote from: mirth on June 07, 2016, 01:42:04 PM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on June 07, 2016, 01:39:34 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 07, 2016, 01:33:48 PM
Quote from: jamus34 on June 07, 2016, 01:11:05 PM
Quote from: mirth on June 07, 2016, 01:03:46 PM
I blame Gus.

Well we have sacrificed both of Gus's testicals to new game launches this year so I can see why he can be at fault...
I heard a rumour he has a third.

Thanks for the heads up DoctorQuest - oh heathen one who doth not like Steam!  >:D

I'll be seeing all of you in hell, anyway. We can shout at the devil together.  O0

I've already booked a penthouse suite.
Budge up  :2funny:
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: jamus34 on June 07, 2016, 01:56:29 PM
I'm riding shotgun on the bus there with my buddy driving it
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: bobarossa on June 07, 2016, 02:19:29 PM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on June 07, 2016, 12:59:03 PM
I was just trying to do the folks a favor by announcing this event. Apologies all around if I let it get out of hand.
As a fellow Steam Luddite, I appreciate the announcement. 
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: CJReich46 on June 07, 2016, 07:30:00 PM
I saw that in my email.

So tempted.  ^-^

Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: -budd- on June 07, 2016, 08:40:34 PM
Generally stay away from RTS, does this have a pause button?
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: GDS_Starfury on June 07, 2016, 09:54:55 PM
yes

its simply the best fucking rts ever made so you should buy it right now.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: jomni on June 07, 2016, 10:00:05 PM
Quote from: -budd- on June 07, 2016, 08:40:34 PM
Generally stay away from RTS, does this have a pause button?

Game goes pretty slow anyway. But I find it hard.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: mirth on June 07, 2016, 10:00:26 PM
I hate to agree with Goatfury, but he's kinda right.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Sparhawk on June 08, 2016, 12:14:31 AM
I've been waiting for this on GOG. Just bought it.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Anguille on June 08, 2016, 03:08:47 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 07, 2016, 10:55:56 AM
Its not a good thing for GoG when steam is getting a hold of golden era classic games long before they are being released on GoG.  Had this been released on GoG back when it was released on Steam, it would have been huge. Now....who cares?
I do  :D

It's not the original games. They have been completely redone. It would have been nice if they had managed to release at the same time though.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Anguille on June 08, 2016, 03:11:36 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 07, 2016, 12:05:27 PM
No disrespect intended...but really, gamers who do not use steam are the transgenders of the gaming world.  They represent .03% of the gaming community, yet occupy much of the discourse on DRM systems, often times, quite loudly.  :crazy2:
Steam has gone a long way. It's DRM used to be very heavy early on and avoided it. Now i am really ok with it.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: DoctorQuest on June 08, 2016, 09:46:50 AM
I am just happy we have multiple options for buying games these days.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: jamus34 on June 08, 2016, 10:06:44 AM
There's always concern as we continue to move to the digital age. I'm more concerned about the government taking away consumer digital rights rather than an individual company.
You don't like steam, fine don't use them however you are restricting your ability to buy PC games in that case. One of the reasons I'm in no hurry to go console is that the current generation is pushing digital... But charging the same amount and sales suck. Why get a game with a physical disk when all the data is transferred to the HD anyway. At least with steam sales I feel I am getting a deal by recognizing the production savings of not having physical inventory.

But that is just my opinion and it's worth about as much as nipples on a breastplate.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Anguille on June 08, 2016, 10:28:33 AM
Quote from: jamus34 on June 08, 2016, 10:06:44 AM
You don't like steam, fine don't use them however you are restricting your ability to buy PC games in that case.
As i said before, i don't mind steam. The problem i see however is the monopolistic position of steam and i hope GOG (and others) will manage to bring more competition to the market.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: jamus34 on June 08, 2016, 10:43:16 AM
Quote from: Anguille on June 08, 2016, 10:28:33 AM
Quote from: jamus34 on June 08, 2016, 10:06:44 AM
You don't like steam, fine don't use them however you are restricting your ability to buy PC games in that case.
As i said before, i don't mind steam. The problem i see however is the monopolistic position of steam and i hope GOG (and others) will manage to bring more competition to the market.

Completely agree there. That said they were the first players to the game. They took a chance and it has paid off comfortably for them. Kind of hard fault them for that.

Also look at the other players. Origin and the ubi version came after and their software is much more oppressive. You can't blame steam for their competitors being dumbass's.

Besides steam's seasonal  sales I've never seen them exert undue pressure on their rivals.

Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Anguille on June 08, 2016, 10:47:43 AM
Quote from: jamus34 on June 08, 2016, 10:43:16 AM
Quote from: Anguille on June 08, 2016, 10:28:33 AM
Quote from: jamus34 on June 08, 2016, 10:06:44 AM
You don't like steam, fine don't use them however you are restricting your ability to buy PC games in that case.
As i said before, i don't mind steam. The problem i see however is the monopolistic position of steam and i hope GOG (and others) will manage to bring more competition to the market.

Completely agree there. That said they were the first players to the game. They took a chance and it has paid off comfortably for them. Kind of hard fault them for that.

Also look at the other players. Origin and the ubi version came after and their software is much more oppressive. You can't blame steam for their competitors being dumbass's.

Besides steam's seasonal  sales I've never seen them exert undue pressure on their rivals.
Completetly agree. So far, the main service i use is GOG where i buy most of my games. Second is steam.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: undercovergeek on January 13, 2017, 09:50:55 AM
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=398406822

This came out today or yesterday - apparently much anticipated, just delivering the news
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Gusington on January 13, 2017, 02:35:55 PM
The games weren't totally redone but the graphics were remastered...the gameplay is the same and spectacular. Although I do find some of the missions difficult like Anguille says above. But me and my balls love both games. And Steam. And your collective mothers.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: undercovergeek on January 13, 2017, 02:40:15 PM
I think this introduces new ships with specific roles and stuff - I didn't read all of it
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Gusington on January 13, 2017, 02:41:58 PM
What - that Complex mod you posted above?
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: undercovergeek on January 13, 2017, 02:58:59 PM
Si
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Destraex on January 13, 2017, 06:50:01 PM
The problem I have with all these homeworld mods is that they don't take advantage of the new remastered improvements. The modders are stuck in the past either because of tools or perhaps that they are building on top of lostech they don't understand... I don't know. But it is only very slowly that mods are being converted but my understanding is that most are not bothering. Because steams remastered install also includes the original classic installs.
I would love to play HW mods but love the remastered graphics too much.

Did anybody else here like Netflix's "The Expanse" ? The gunship looks to my eyes similar to some homeworld ships...

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/417/32172756281_39a9022137_z.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/349/32142862892_dd1a0fb99a_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Destraex on January 13, 2017, 07:36:41 PM
Quote from: undercovergeek on January 13, 2017, 09:50:55 AM
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=398406822

This came out today or yesterday - apparently much anticipated, just delivering the news

Wait this utilises the remastered engine?
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Destraex on January 14, 2017, 08:21:23 AM
ok tried Complex and I think I have a long way to go to understand it.
However initial thoughts are that if you are a good player then complex enhances that by giving already good players bonuses for being good.
For example:

1) You have to gain rank to gain access to better ships. The fastest way to gain rank is to fight. Thus the victor then gets a bonus here of not only winning the fight but therefore getting better ships than his opponent.
2) Population capacity must be researched to allow bigger fleets on top of needing to be sufficient rank to access better ships. Thus if you have resources to pay for pop cap then you are once again doubling your advantage.
3) You have to research weapon power. Meaning that if you have the resources you can auto win any battle. Simply by ranking your weapons up at 10% per upgrade out to 7 or so upgrades.
4) You need resources to store resources. Above 10,000 ru your resources collectors are useless unless you pay for containers to store the extra RU in. A neat idea and one which gives the enemy a chance to destroy I ASSUME your container and any resources there in.

These are just a few of the really cool features that while nice I would think are impossible to balance and probably exaggerate any opponents already marked advantage.

The other main problem I see thus far is that one cannot really plan to have a good fleet made of very different ship sizes simply because gaining access to the bigger ships is an end game, a linear path rather than
the original homeworlds choice of paths.

The mod looks great and they seem to have done the right thing by not having too many ships but having a wide variety of weapons instead. I like the mod. But it takes far too long to play unless you simply want to dogfight with fighters for the quick game.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/592/32182239291_5567cc01b0_z.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/540/32182238161_c4cd4a4492_z.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/630/32182237131_8932e54062_z.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/754/32182236011_b6dbb23bf4_z.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/528/32182235141_a9eba63512_z.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/777/32182233951_0f91548222_z.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/296/32182233051_d94895e566_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Rayfer on January 14, 2017, 08:29:25 AM
Quote from: Destraex on January 13, 2017, 06:50:01 PM
The problem I have with all these homeworld mods is that they don't take advantage of the new remastered improvements. The modders are stuck in the past either because of tools or perhaps that they are building on top of lostech they don't understand... I don't know. But it is only very slowly that mods are being converted but my understanding is that most are not bothering. Because steams remastered install also includes the original classic installs.
I would love to play HW mods but love the remastered graphics too much.

Did anybody else here like Netflix's "The Expanse" ? The gunship looks to my eyes similar to some homeworld ships...


"The Expanse" is from an outstanding sci-fi novel series of the same name. Can't remember the exact number but I believe there were 4-6 books in the series. The TV show does a good job with it, sticking mostly to the book's plot line. Season two is to start soon on the SyFy channel then will port to Netflix some time later.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Destraex on January 14, 2017, 08:40:21 AM
Yes, I read that it was based on a series of books. That is how the best films and TV come about. Because they have so much depth and complexity to form framework in the film makers mind.
Title: Re: Homeworld 1&2 Remastered on Gog
Post by: Gusington on January 14, 2017, 04:01:22 PM
Sci fi is not my top genre but I thought the show was pretty good...good enough to get me interested in the books.