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Title: Starship Enterprise
Post by: JudgeDredd on August 25, 2016, 01:15:56 PM
I really should start making what I buy - but I saw this on a recent trip to Glasgow and couldn't help myself - as a big trekkie fan.

Not a fan that knows everything about the Trek universe - just a fan.

(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMG_20160822_172105_1_zps1fyygt75.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMG_20160822_172105_1_zps1fyygt75.jpg.html)

The instructions
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1494_zps5qz2zrwm.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1494_zps5qz2zrwm.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1495_zpsehaoh9dr.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1495_zpsehaoh9dr.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1496_zpsywo9ynb8.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1496_zpsywo9ynb8.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1497_zpsumqgtxdv.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1497_zpsumqgtxdv.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1498_zpsyafuorbj.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1498_zpsyafuorbj.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1500_zpswgmzyekr.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1500_zpswgmzyekr.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1501_zpskcavzwjp.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1501_zpskcavzwjp.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1502_zpssajkfijg.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1502_zpssajkfijg.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1503_zpszgvl7opa.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1503_zpszgvl7opa.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1504_zpsjkzjbulk.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1504_zpsjkzjbulk.jpg.html)

And the sprues
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1505_zpsxy2jwt2y.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1505_zpsxy2jwt2y.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1508_zpsswdq2mow.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1508_zpsswdq2mow.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1509_zpsic3tj848.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1509_zpsic3tj848.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1510_zpsxwbn4j6z.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1510_zpsxwbn4j6z.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1511_zpsd3no2fzu.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1511_zpsd3no2fzu.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1512_zpswnbtsmxl.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1512_zpswnbtsmxl.jpg.html)

Lots of clear stuff
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1513_zpsyo0s0mr7.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1513_zpsyo0s0mr7.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1514_zpsosieysbx.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1514_zpsosieysbx.jpg.html)

Dry fit
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1516_zpsu7jupe0z.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1516_zpsu7jupe0z.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1517_zps5lqgsutr.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1517_zps5lqgsutr.jpg.html)

This thing is over half a metre long!
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1520_zps1rwyfkxz.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1520_zps1rwyfkxz.jpg.html)
(http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q499/wmar1967/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1521_zpsp1svsths.jpg) (http://s1160.photobucket.com/user/wmar1967/media/Models/Enterprise/IMAG1521_zpsp1svsths.jpg.html)

Some care will have to be taken with the building...there's lots of decals and also lots of windows. I guess the best way to go is to fit the windows, build, mask with liquid mask, paint and decal.

Looking forward to this - but I have no idea when I will honestly get around to it.
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: DoctorQuest on August 25, 2016, 01:40:30 PM
I have several pre-built models of this ship (long story) but I don't understand the hate for the design in some circles.

Good luck on the build, JD!
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: bbmike on August 25, 2016, 01:44:26 PM
I was so excited when I saw the thread title. Then I saw...it was...that 'Enterprise'... (http://www.aarcentral.com/pics/vomit.gif)

 >:D
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: JudgeDredd on August 25, 2016, 01:57:30 PM
I love them all...well, the Constitution Class anyway.  :)
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: DoctorQuest on August 25, 2016, 02:14:24 PM
I was so excited when I saw the thread title. Then I saw...it was...that 'Enterprise'... (http://www.aarcentral.com/pics/vomit.gif)

 >:D

And this from Mr. "you have to watch all the TOS episodes even if they suck"  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: Nefaro on August 25, 2016, 02:36:48 PM
That's a lot of clear plastic bits for all those window holes.

You gonna paint some blue/white-ish color onto those clear windows before gluing them in?


......


I literally have a Hobbytown store located at the end of my street.  I only rarely go there if I feel the need to pick up an odd acrylic paint color, but they pretty much only have Tamiya paints (not my pref). 


Anyway.. I was surprised at how many sci-fi models they have on offer there.  Sure, they still have the typical WWII offerings you'd expect, but I recall seeing all kinds of Star Trek, Star Wars, and more obscure IP kits last I went (BSG, Dr Who?, etc).   The prices were enough to give me a stroke, and remind me why I don't do modelling, but after seeing so many hordes of WWII kits mixed with a little cold war stuff, in most stores,  it struck me as a bit unusual.  This post reminded me of it.
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: JudgeDredd on August 25, 2016, 03:03:27 PM
That's a lot of clear plastic bits for all those window holes.

You gonna paint some blue/white-ish color onto those clear windows before gluing them in?


......


I literally have a Hobbytown store located at the end of my street.  I only rarely go there if I feel the need to pick up an odd acrylic paint color, but they pretty much only have Tamiya paints (not my pref). 


Anyway.. I was surprised at how many sci-fi models they have on offer there.  Sure, they still have the typical WWII offerings you'd expect, but I recall seeing all kinds of Star Trek, Star Wars, and more obscure IP kits last I went (BSG, Dr Who?, etc).   The prices were enough to give me a stroke, and remind me why I don't do modelling, but after seeing so many hordes of WWII kits mixed with a little cold war stuff, in most stores,  it struck me as a bit unusual.  This post reminded me of it.
I was going to put them in and then use liquid mask
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: bbmike on August 25, 2016, 03:38:57 PM
I was so excited when I saw the thread title. Then I saw...it was...that 'Enterprise'... (http://www.aarcentral.com/pics/vomit.gif)
's
 >:D

And this from Mr. "you have to watch all the TOS episodes even if they suck"  >:D >:D >:D

What? For penance you must watch Gamesters of Triskelion three times! No, that's too harsh. Just watch Spock' Brain again.
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: mirth on August 25, 2016, 03:40:26 PM
400 quatloos on the newcomer!
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: DoctorQuest on August 25, 2016, 03:41:03 PM
I was so excited when I saw the thread title. Then I saw...it was...that 'Enterprise'... (http://www.aarcentral.com/pics/vomit.gif)
's
 >:D

And this from Mr. "you have to watch all the TOS episodes even if they suck"  >:D >:D >:D

What? For penance you must watch Gamesters of Triskelion three times! No, that's too harsh. Just watch Spock' Brain again.

O M G........NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: mirth on August 25, 2016, 03:41:59 PM
I liked Gamesters of Triskelion. Especially the chick in the tinfoil bikini.
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: DoctorQuest on August 25, 2016, 03:44:24 PM
And it IS the only place you can launder stolen quatloos.
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: bbmike on August 25, 2016, 03:45:07 PM
I liked Gamesters of Triskelion. Especially the chick in the tinfoil bikini.

What? You must watch Star Trek V: The Final Frontier as penance!
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: DoctorQuest on August 25, 2016, 03:46:30 PM
I would rather stick hot dilithium crystals in my eyes!
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: mirth on August 25, 2016, 03:48:05 PM
I liked Gamesters of Triskelion. Especially the chick in the tinfoil bikini.

What? You must watch Star Trek V: The Final Frontier as penance!

I'd sooner kiss a Horta.
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: mirth on August 25, 2016, 03:49:33 PM
And it IS the only place you can launder stolen quatloos.

As far as the Federation Revenue Service is concerned, those were legitimately gained quatloos.
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: bbmike on August 25, 2016, 03:50:12 PM
I liked Gamesters of Triskelion. Especially the chick in the tinfoil bikini.

What? You must watch Star Trek V: The Final Frontier as penance!

I'd sooner kiss a Horta.

I can arrange that.
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: mirth on August 25, 2016, 03:52:28 PM
Wait, I meant Vulcan princess.
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: bbmike on August 25, 2016, 03:57:51 PM
T'Pol?
(http://www.aarcentral.com/pics/drool.gif)
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: mirth on August 25, 2016, 03:59:57 PM
She'll do.
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: GDS_Starfury on August 25, 2016, 06:03:23 PM
I have several pre-built models of this ship (long story) but I don't understand the hate for the design in some circles.

Good luck on the build, JD!

where would you like me to begin?
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: GDS_Starfury on August 25, 2016, 06:04:10 PM
I'd sooner kiss a Horta.

this is how most of your weekends start.
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: GDS_Starfury on August 25, 2016, 06:05:50 PM
dig around here for some pointers and help with your space sperm.

http://resinilluminati.com/
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: bbmike on August 25, 2016, 06:11:50 PM
I have several pre-built models of this ship (long story) but I don't understand the hate for the design in some circles.

Good luck on the build, JD!

where would you like me to begin?

Begin with the Doomsday Machine-looking nacelles!
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: mirth on August 25, 2016, 06:28:14 PM
I have several pre-built models of this ship (long story) but I don't understand the hate for the design in some circles.

Good luck on the build, JD!

where would you like me to begin?

Begin with the Doomsday Machine-looking nacelles!

I saw that too when I was looking at JD's pics
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: DoctorQuest on August 25, 2016, 07:07:51 PM
I have several pre-built models of this ship (long story) but I don't understand the hate for the design in some circles.

Good luck on the build, JD!

where would you like me to begin?

How ever did you know I might be referring to you?  :))
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: GDS_Starfury on August 25, 2016, 07:27:05 PM
I've been complaining about that abomination of industrial design since it was first released.
I was really hoping they would do something new when they blew that POS up in the latest movie.
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: JudgeDredd on August 26, 2016, 01:41:43 AM
Well, it won't look like this...
http://qmxonline.com/products/star-trek-2009-enterprise-artisan-replica

But then, it won't be worth $7k either  :2funny:
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: Nefaro on August 26, 2016, 09:06:07 AM

I was going to put them in and then use liquid mask

Wouldn't that require a lot more work compared to doing the window pieces before they go in?

I'm not an expert on kit building, hence my interrogations.
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: JudgeDredd on August 26, 2016, 12:01:44 PM
I wasn't sure what you meant to be honest as you mentioned "painting" them

The liquid mask (in case you don't know) just covers the glass and allows you to spray the model at will. You then peel the mask off when the paint is dry.

Whether that is best done before or after, I don't know as I've only ever used it on canopies (which aren't "in" the model). This is the first time I have done something where the clear bits go IN the model prior to the painting step.
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: Nefaro on August 26, 2016, 12:10:26 PM
I wasn't sure what you meant to be honest as you mentioned "painting" them

The liquid mask (in case you don't know) just covers the glass and allows you to spray the model at will. You then peel the mask off when the paint is dry.

Whether that is best done before or after, I don't know as I've only ever used it on canopies (which aren't "in" the model). This is the first time I have done something where the clear bits go IN the model prior to the painting step.


Yeah, I understand taping over the windows in regards to painting the hull.  But I'm wondering about the opposite.

I was wondering if you were gonna do some kind of paint job on the little transparent plastic window bits themselves.  Like some kind of Blue-to-White frosting/fade on the little windows, to simulate the lights in the rooms, before gluing them in.  So you don't have to paint them from the outside (and worry about masking the hull from it .. not the other way around).

Just curious how you went about it, since people have different methods.  I've only had one friend who has modelled his whole life, and he usually painted the clear plastic canopies & such before assembling everything.  All those windows reminded me of it, so I was wondering if you used the same method or did something different (which I've not seen before).
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: JudgeDredd on August 26, 2016, 04:37:46 PM
No - I was keeping the clear bits clear - possibly with the option of putting lights in her.

So a mask (not tape - but a liquid that dries as a "gel") would be put on each of the windows after she has been built. The mask will protect the plastic while I paint and then I can pick off after.

Even if I don't put lights in, I'd probably still leave the glass clear and liquid mask when painting the main body.
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: Nefaro on August 26, 2016, 05:58:20 PM
No - I was keeping the clear bits clear - possibly with the option of putting lights in her.



I see.

Shit, that's all you had to say, mah man!  :))
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: GDS_Starfury on August 26, 2016, 07:44:32 PM
or you can paint the majority of the model first and then do touch ups on the seams as needed.  if you go for the painted panel thing usually found on ST models this is pretty easy.
Title: Re: Starship Enterprise
Post by: JudgeDredd on August 27, 2016, 01:57:13 AM
or you can paint the majority of the model first and then do touch ups on the seams as needed.  if you go for the painted panel thing usually found on ST models this is pretty easy.
That had crossed my mind  O0