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Title: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Phantom on May 04, 2018, 12:42:13 PM
This looks interesting...

http://www.grandtactician.com/thecivilwar/index.html

...and apologies if someone (probably Jarhead) has already posted about this six months ago :)
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Gusington on May 04, 2018, 12:52:42 PM
Got a promo email from this developer yesterday, looks engaging.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: SirAndrewD on May 04, 2018, 12:53:24 PM
I might sense a moistening of the loins. 
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Gusington on May 04, 2018, 12:55:03 PM
Very early, yet.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: bboyer66 on May 04, 2018, 01:19:20 PM
My loins are officially moistened !!!!!
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: mirth on May 04, 2018, 01:20:20 PM
looks hawt
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Geezer on May 04, 2018, 02:04:05 PM
So many games, so little time, but I'll be keeping an eye on this one.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: bbmike on May 04, 2018, 02:09:13 PM
"...a real time strategy game..."  :-\
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: bobarossa on May 04, 2018, 03:00:26 PM
This is from Keppelmuller, the Seven Years War guy.  I bought his last game but it's still part of my gaming backlog.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: mirth on May 04, 2018, 03:02:51 PM
"...a real time strategy game..."  :-\

Yeah, that dried my loins a bit.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Gusington on May 04, 2018, 05:33:42 PM
 :buck2:
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Geezer on May 04, 2018, 06:08:57 PM
Maybe it will be pauseable real time.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: fabius on May 11, 2018, 07:43:09 AM
Last game was plausible, and battles were at a great pace. Sort of how I wish Total War was on pace and scale but without TW graphics.

This vid gives a glimpse of pace towards the end.

Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Cyrano on May 11, 2018, 08:05:49 AM
I admire their spirit.  Based on Doug's reviews, the SYW offering smacked of Napoleon 1813, which is to gaming what Gilliam's "Don Quixote" was, until recently, to movie making.

I wish them well.

Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: fabius on May 11, 2018, 08:13:19 AM
Yeah and SYW was one man effort if I remember right.

Now it's more guys, including art, and new engine that can handle, quote:
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The engine should support everything between 1600-1899, but the setting/theme of the first title will be revealed later
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: JasonPratt on May 11, 2018, 12:50:34 PM


Reposted with better coding.


I for one welcome the attempt!  O0
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Geezer on May 11, 2018, 01:44:20 PM
Game looks interesting:



Edit - Got it.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: SirAndrewD on May 11, 2018, 01:50:14 PM
Never mind.  Can't figure out how to post a Youtube video here.

You didn't sacrifice a goat to Mirth.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: bbmike on May 11, 2018, 02:04:33 PM


Reposted with better coding.


I for one welcome the attempt!  O0

Total length of video: 2 minutes and 18 seconds.
Time of actual gameplay shown: 30 seconds.
The look of doubt on my face? Priceless. Doubtful.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: mirth on May 11, 2018, 02:45:52 PM
Never mind.  Can't figure out how to post a Youtube video here.

You didn't sacrifice a goat to Mirth.

Render unto Mirth a fattened goat and verily you will be blessed with holy embed links.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: fabius on May 11, 2018, 04:32:24 PM


Reposted with better coding.


I for one welcome the attempt!  O0

Total length of video: 2 minutes and 18 seconds.
Time of actual gameplay shown: 30 seconds.
The look of doubt on my face? Priceless. Doubtful.

I get the doubtful. I have that when I see game advert vids like that. But not for announcement trailers. That's just how it these days.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: JasonPratt on May 14, 2018, 01:43:41 PM
Oh, I have no doubt or faith either way on this. I just welcome the attempt.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Tiamak on July 22, 2018, 12:43:37 AM
Received an e-mail with this Pre-alpha game play video:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeT-TYziqn8&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on July 22, 2018, 05:37:04 AM
Received an e-mail with this Pre-alpha game play video:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeT-TYziqn8&feature=youtu.be

Looks quite promising...! 
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: JasonPratt on July 22, 2018, 07:47:59 AM
Reposted with embedded code:




A bit jerky on the troop movement but looks VERY promising!
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: MengJiao on July 22, 2018, 08:03:12 AM


A bit jerky on the troop movement but looks VERY promising!

  Looks good to me.  I'll buy anything remotely workable that covers muskets and such. Kap-poof!
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: sandman2575 on July 22, 2018, 08:40:11 AM
Already looks fantastic. Really impressed!

Love the period battle map. Though it suggests that the game is going to have set-piece historical battles rather than possibility of battles anywhere on the strategic map (as in Total War or the previous Seven Years War) -?

Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Pzrjager on July 22, 2018, 08:40:40 AM
That is some seriously impressive website design.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: bbmike on July 22, 2018, 11:01:36 AM
Already looks fantastic. Really impressed!

Love the period battle map. Though it suggests that the game is going to have set-piece historical battles rather than possibility of battles anywhere on the strategic map (as in Total War or the previous Seven Years War) -?

+1. That looks really good. I love that it doesn't look too complicated to play and it looks like manageable real-time. My hopes have risen considerably!
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: -budd- on July 22, 2018, 11:08:25 AM
It does look good. Looks like you can pause it, isn't that a stop button icon, lower right.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: JasonPratt on July 22, 2018, 11:42:11 AM
Already looks fantastic. Really impressed!

Love the period battle map. Though it suggests that the game is going to have set-piece historical battles rather than possibility of battles anywhere on the strategic map (as in Total War or the previous Seven Years War) -?

That would fit the title, Grand Tactician. I have no complaints -- I like Scourge of War (and its predecessors), Ultimate General, and their ilk.

On the other hand, I never did get Brother vs Brother because what I really wanted was Forge of Freedom 2. So I can understand feeling like this is a step backward.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: bboyer66 on July 23, 2018, 10:31:01 AM
The game does talk about a Strategic layer to the game,supply lines, managing leaders, railroads, the blockade, etc. Quite interested to see how battlefields will be selected, or generated. Maybe once a Strategic Map is shown, we will be able to figure some more things out.

 As a sidenote let me just comment on how frustrating Ultimate Civil War General is. It is a game so close to being a classic, but just falls short. Playing the campaign I had won like 16 straight battles, including a total decimation of the Confederates at Antietam. Well I lose the battle of Fredericksburg because I couldn't race my troops to a victory location in time (had eliminated all the enemy troops), and lose the battle. I'm replaced as commander, and the game is over, LOL.  The only reason I keep the game at this point is to play out the individual battles possibly in the future.

 
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: RyanE on July 23, 2018, 11:05:04 AM
"I'm replaced as commander, and the game is over"

Ha!  That actually sounds like the real Civil War.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: bboyer66 on July 23, 2018, 11:23:48 AM
"I'm replaced as commander, and the game is over"

Ha!  That actually sounds like the real Civil War.

Just that part  ;)
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: AchillesLastStand on February 24, 2020, 07:18:41 PM
A new gameplay video came out several days ago, it looks quite interesting to say the least.

The YouTube button above doesn't seem to be functioning, weird.
https://youtu.be/ZRdRLmPcBZw


Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Sir Slash on February 24, 2020, 08:56:03 PM
Definitely got my interest.  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Martok on February 24, 2020, 10:46:24 PM
Holy crap, how did I miss this one??!  Looks interesting. 




The YouTube button above doesn't seem to be functioning, weird.
https://youtu.be/ZRdRLmPcBZw

Seems to work okay for me (FF is my primary browser)? 





Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: AchillesLastStand on February 25, 2020, 12:09:50 AM
Holy crap, how did I miss this one??!  Looks interesting. 




The YouTube button above doesn't seem to be functioning, weird.
https://youtu.be/ZRdRLmPcBZw


Edge, tried it several times. Even tried following the instructions in the support section for posting YT videos and didn't work. Thanks for posting it btw.
Seems to work okay for me (FF is my primary browser)? 



Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Skoop on February 25, 2020, 10:54:52 AM
Been following this one too, looks really cool.  It's the second effort from the guy who did the seven years war game a while back that some here had played.

Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Geezer on February 25, 2020, 11:06:49 AM
This is looking promising.  The original release was supposed to be late 2019, but now it's Summer of this year.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on February 25, 2020, 11:58:12 AM
Been following this one too, looks really cool.  It's the second effort from the guy who did the seven years war game a while back that some here had played.

I never played the previous game you mention, but didn't it get some bad press because of an overly complicated economy to micro-manage? The 4 minute mark of the video for this new game shows a long list of goods, i.e. sugar, coffee, etc. and their prices giving me concerns that this game might have the same issues. Otherwise it looks quite good and as a fan of the ACW I remain interested to see how this develops.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Geezer on February 25, 2020, 12:26:16 PM
I watched the two part Perryville replay on Youtube and the battlefield was quite detailed.  Hard to imagine they have modeled the entire country to that level of detail.  So I'm wondering if a campaign battle takes place at a location where there was no historical battle if the map will be randomly generated, or show the actual terrain.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Skoop on February 25, 2020, 12:27:57 PM
 Yes you are right, I think the dev took all that feedback into account for this game. 
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Geezer on February 27, 2020, 04:47:17 AM
Someone else asked about maps and the devs posted the following answer:

Quote
...the maps are hand drawn and auto generation is not possible. There will be historic maps at the appropriate locations and also a number of non-historical ones to randomly pick. Also the number of maps will increase post-release.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: W8taminute on February 27, 2020, 11:28:40 AM
Definitely looking forward to this game.   O0
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: fabius on May 29, 2020, 10:51:53 AM
Hi Praise in this blog

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So far we have not shown the game to outsiders of the development team, except in the official updates like these dev blogs. But when a renown strategy game designer Philippe Thibaut asks to have a look at the game… Well, you show the game!

http://www.grandtactician.com/thecivilwar/blog/articles/guest-blog-philippe-thibaut

Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on May 29, 2020, 11:36:34 AM
Hi Praise in this blog

Quote
So far we have not shown the game to outsiders of the development team, except in the official updates like these dev blogs. But when a renown strategy game designer Philippe Thibaut asks to have a look at the game… Well, you show the game!

http://www.grandtactician.com/thecivilwar/blog/articles/guest-blog-philippe-thibaut

Been following this for a while now....can't remember the last time I was this excited about a new game.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: fabius on May 29, 2020, 11:57:25 AM
Yeah, think this one could rocket fuel reignite my interest in US Civil War.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Tanaka on May 29, 2020, 12:25:20 PM
My most highly anticipated game of 2020! Can't wait for this one!
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Toonces on May 29, 2020, 12:43:04 PM
Wow!  Have I seen this before?   I don't think so.  Man alive this game looks absolutely fantastic.

I don't throw out "day 1 purchase" lightly, but this certainly feels like that kind of game.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: sandman2575 on May 29, 2020, 01:17:46 PM
And it looks like it's coming out much sooner than I expected -- "mid-late summer"

https://steamcommunity.com/app/654890/discussions/0/1638675549010918375/ (https://steamcommunity.com/app/654890/discussions/0/1638675549010918375/)

I'm not a Civil War buff, but this looks absolutely fantastic.  EDIT -- I guess I channeled Toonces, because I wrote that and then saw he had written pretty much the exact same thing !
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: W8taminute on May 29, 2020, 01:45:11 PM
I really can't wait for this game.  I noticed Philippe has quite the nice website with a lot of interesting products.  Maybe I can find something there to keep me busy until Grand Tactician comes out!
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Vintage Dude on May 29, 2020, 02:07:03 PM
This has been at the very top of my wishlist for a long time.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: al_infierno on July 03, 2020, 10:41:19 PM
Beta Battle Game Play: Gettysburg

Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: devoncop on July 03, 2020, 11:34:18 PM
Beta Battle Game Play: Gettysburg



Watched it all. Really impressive stuff.

What is obvious is that this is no clickfest.....the battle has time to develop naturally and with lots of time to think even without using the pause key (which for me given my aversion to RTS battles is quite something !)

As a battle simulator is is amazing but when you consider that this system, as well as being able to be used to replay individual stand alone engagements is also integrated into a whole ACW strategic game the scale is mind blowing.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Father Ted on July 04, 2020, 04:46:10 AM
I've no real interest in the ACW, but I might get this just because of the game design.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: hellfish6 on July 04, 2020, 04:56:59 AM
I've no real interest in the ACW, but I might get this just because of the game design.

My thought exactly.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: ExWargamerJoe on July 21, 2020, 03:20:31 AM
Grand Tactician now has a release date of August of August 21st, where it will release into Early Access.

Steam page hasn't been updated yet.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: ExWargamerJoe on July 21, 2020, 03:30:33 AM
I've asked about this directly, but it's worth noting that at the time I write this the price is 39.99 for everyone, regardless of regional currency differences.

39.99 USD is actually ~34 EUR, so us Europeans will technically be paying more for the game unless they decide to adjust their pricing.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 21, 2020, 04:30:18 AM
Grand Tactician now has a release date of August of August 21st, but it's heading to Steam Early Access first.

Steam page hasn't been updated yet.

thanks but a clarification please.  will early access start on august 21 or will early access be sometime prior to august 21st with full release on august 21st?
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 21, 2020, 04:31:56 AM
Grand Tactician now has a release date of August of August 21st, but it's heading to Steam Early Access first.

Steam page hasn't been updated yet.

thanks but a clarification please.  will early access start on august 21 or will early access be sometime prior to august 21st with full release on august 21st?

never mind, just saw the tweet....it will start early access on august 21.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: ExWargamerJoe on July 21, 2020, 04:41:36 AM
I've updated my post anyway as you're right, it is worded a bit weirdly! Apologies.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Sir Slash on July 21, 2020, 09:04:16 AM
Thanks for the head's-up Joe.  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: devoncop on July 21, 2020, 09:27:04 AM
Great news.

This could be a total triumph if it achieves its aims.

My concern is that we have only seen scripted tactical batttles so far.......the crux will be if they can get the strategic side balanced and well integrated.

Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: ArizonaTank on July 22, 2020, 08:22:00 AM
The Total War guys should have done ACW a long time ago. Glad to see an indie stepping into the gap. Hopefully the game will do transition from tactical to strategic well.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: devoncop on July 22, 2020, 08:36:59 AM
The Total War guys should have done ACW a long time ago. Glad to see an indie stepping into the gap. Hopefully the game will do transition from tactical to strategic well.

This title is promising depth that Creative Assembly have never even attempted. The Total War franchaise has in my opinion largely abandoned the serious wargaming crowd for a more mainstream audience whereas this looks to have done the opposite. I share your hopes !
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Sir Slash on July 22, 2020, 09:02:10 AM
Me too.  :dreamer:
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Gusington on July 22, 2020, 09:58:38 AM
If this game is a success I would give anything for them to use their game model and engine on a European of a similar era, like the Franco-Prussian War or the Crimean War.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: ExWargamerJoe on July 22, 2020, 10:28:33 AM
If my memory serves, back when they first announced themselves it seemed liked it was a toss-up whether they'd go down the ACW route or the Napoleonic route. They may have even run a poll on it to try and decide, not sure.

Clearly you yanks wanted to spoil it for everyone and voted for the minor, uninteresting conflict that is the ACW.

On a serious note, if they had the will to do Napoleonics all those years ago, hopefully they may return to it (or something similar) once The Civil War is out the door.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: devoncop on July 22, 2020, 10:55:18 AM
If my memory serves, back when they first announced themselves it seemed liked it was a toss-up whether they'd go down the ACW route or the Napoleonic route. They may have even run a poll on it to try and decide, not sure.

Clearly you yanks wanted to spoil it for everyone and voted for the minor, uninteresting conflict that is the ACW.

On a serious note, if they had the will to do Napoleonics all those years ago, hopefully they may return to it (or something similar) once The Civil War is out the door.

Given that at least one of the developer's of this offering has already released his interesting but ultimately flawed Seven Years War game I imagine the chances of a European follow up are pretty high. The issue of course is that with the ACW diplomacy and all of its minefields of credibility v flexibility for the player can be pretty much ignored whilst Europeans being expert backstabbers and master's of subterfuge would require a big investment in a diplomatic mechanism that made sense :).

Having said all of that a game based on this engine for either a Napoleonic or Seven Years War in Europe era would be phenomenal.....

I could see an American War of Independence conflict fitting in pretty well too.....could that satisfy both Europeans and the colonials ? 😉
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Manassassas on July 22, 2020, 10:57:29 AM
If this game is a success I would give anything for them to use their game model and engine on a European of a similar era, like the Franco-Prussian War or the Crimean War.

One of the developers was the brains behind Seven Years War - which showed a lot of promise but was ultimately quite slow and buggy.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Gusington on July 22, 2020, 01:34:14 PM
An American Revolution game would be choice!
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: SirAndrewD on July 22, 2020, 03:13:17 PM
An American Revolution game would be choice!

Or World War 2!  There are so few!   >:D

But, on a serious note, I'd like to see Napoleonic Wars done this way as well.

But yeah, there's a much bigger gap for the Revolutionary War in games.  Kind of a surprising one.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: ExWargamerJoe on July 23, 2020, 02:26:57 AM
If they can nail asymmetrical design - Zulu War.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Gusington on July 23, 2020, 07:19:13 AM
^YES
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Sir Slash on July 23, 2020, 09:26:32 AM
Can the War of Jenkin's Ear be far behind?  :D
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Tanaka on August 05, 2020, 12:52:39 AM
So excited for this one!





Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: fran on August 05, 2020, 03:19:20 AM
Looks great, especially enjoy the look and design of the game. Thanks for the video links will check them out later.  :bd:
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: devoncop on August 05, 2020, 04:21:18 AM
I just watched "The History Guy"  1 hour 40 try out.

This is absolutely mindblowing.

It is described as having the best features of Total War, Ultimate General Civil War and Victoria 2.

Gaming heaven. :smitten:

Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on August 05, 2020, 05:31:56 AM
I just watched "The History Guy"  1 hour 40 try out.

This is absolutely mindblowing.

It is described as having the best features of Total War, Ultimate General Civil War and Victoria 2.

Gaming heaven. :smitten:

I watched parts of it too and agree, it looks incredible.  I missed if he said anything about letting the AI handle aspects of the economic part of the game....I was hoping I wouldn't have to scroll the long list of goods to purchase, allowing more time and effort on building brigades, movement, strategy, etc.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: hellfish6 on August 05, 2020, 07:37:57 AM
I'm like 90% sure he said the AI could/would handle economics. My takeaway was that the economics were more important to keep track of as targets for raids and the like.

And yeah, for the first time ever I'm looking forward to a Civil War game. Probably more than any other game on my summer radar right now. Maybe even 2020... depending on how willing I am to distance myself from the Cyberpunk 2077 hype tsunami.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: fran on August 05, 2020, 08:46:53 AM
The map transition is really cool, start from paper looking zoomed out view, and then allow you to drill into google earth like detail with 3d map.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Tanaka on August 05, 2020, 11:09:44 AM
I just watched "The History Guy"  1 hour 40 try out.

This is absolutely mindblowing.

It is described as having the best features of Total War, Ultimate General Civil War and Victoria 2.

Gaming heaven. :smitten:

I watched parts of it too and agree, it looks incredible.  I missed if he said anything about letting the AI handle aspects of the economic part of the game....I was hoping I wouldn't have to scroll the long list of goods to purchase, allowing more time and effort on building brigades, movement, strategy, etc.

Yeah you can put all that on automatic if you want to.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Geezer on August 05, 2020, 11:44:26 AM
This has huge potential.  For me the real test will be whether the AI can play well at both the strategic and tactical levels.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: AchillesLastStand on August 05, 2020, 12:12:33 PM
I just watched "The History Guy"  1 hour 40 try out.

This is absolutely mindblowing.

It is described as having the best features of Total War, Ultimate General Civil War and Victoria 2.

Gaming heaven. :smitten:


Yep, watched parts of it and it looks like an instant purchase from me. I presume{?}Fort battles will be auto resolved like Naval?
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: mikeck on August 05, 2020, 03:49:58 PM
Got a link or is it up on YouTube?
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Tanaka on August 05, 2020, 07:45:46 PM
Got a link or is it up on YouTube?

Look above.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: AchillesLastStand on August 05, 2020, 08:36:46 PM
Pretty good video here. Not sure why it isn't embedding.
You can even change the color of your troops trousers and jackets when you recruit them.
https://youtu.be/GgL1eN1rKaY
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: MetalDog on August 05, 2020, 09:18:53 PM
Pretty good video here. Not sure why it isn't embedding.
You can even change the color of your troops trousers and jackets when you recruit them.


There you are, sir!
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: devoncop on August 06, 2020, 08:57:41 AM
Some concerns evident about the AI (unsurprisingly given the stage of the game development and the complexity of the game) but the mechanics and game design look truly unique.

I just hope they can tighten up some of the AI behaviour.


Edit :

The developer has just posted this on the game Steam page :

Watching many of the first previews I could see that people try to play it like a typical RTS. Click every unit and move manually. I can tell you this will be very stressful in a large battle. The best way to play it is to sit back and be the Commander. Meaning playing on Corps or Division level and change only details on brigade level. If at all.

Another point is that most of the streamers have turned off the Fog of War, which is a game-changer IMO when you don´t know where and how many enemies you are facing.



This needs to be borne in mind whilst watching some of the Let's Plays. In effect it seems that by moving units individually it may be breaking the OOB based AI which is why some behaviour may seem odd to some You Tubers. It is certainly evident that some of them have not realised there is a built in orders delay system in the game and are repeatedly clicking on a unit to move and getting frustrated when it does not behave like a Total War unit and react with robot like responsiveness straight away.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: AchillesLastStand on August 06, 2020, 11:27:23 AM
Pretty good video here. Not sure why it isn't embedding.
You can even change the color of your troops trousers and jackets when you recruit them.


There you are, sir!

Thank you!
I tried the advice in the thread about how to imbed YT videos and nothing seemed to work. What am I doing incorrect?
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: al_infierno on August 06, 2020, 11:30:43 AM


Thank you!
I tried the advice in the thread about how to imbed YT videos and nothing seemed to work. What am I doing incorrect?

In your edited post, the only thing that was missing are the [youtube] tags.  I think the problem most people run into is not realizing you need to click "Share" and get the shortened link (instead of copying straight from the URL bar), but it looks like you did that.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: AchillesLastStand on August 06, 2020, 11:39:52 AM


Thank you!
I tried the advice in the thread about how to imbed YT videos and nothing seemed to work. What am I doing incorrect?

In your edited post, the only thing that was missing are the [youtube] tags.  I think the problem most people run into is not realizing you need to click "Share" and get the shortened link (instead of copying straight from the URL bar), but it looks like you did that.

Weird, all of the tags including YT are non responsive, maybe I need to switch to another browser.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: W8taminute on August 06, 2020, 02:54:27 PM
Man this game is looking better and better the more coverage of it I see.  Can't wait.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: SirAndrewD on August 06, 2020, 06:43:08 PM
My loins are so moist you could float an Ironclad in them. 
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: MetalDog on August 06, 2020, 06:46:04 PM
That is a truly disturbing image that no brain bleach can erase.  Bravo, sir!
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Gusington on August 07, 2020, 01:08:58 PM
 :2funny:
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Skoop on August 07, 2020, 06:05:17 PM
Played a fair amount of it as part of the testers team.  Love to give a ton of comments but they have a pretty strict NDA.  This game is made by a 3 man team who are very passionate about the project.  Think of it as made by grogs for grogs. 

There’s some really cool concepts in the game as you can tell with the campaign and battle system.
This will release soon into early access and is in a good playable state, but there is still much work to be done as with all early access games. 
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: SirAndrewD on August 07, 2020, 07:04:48 PM
When it goes into EA they shall have my Enfield! And my Sharps! And my Spencer Repeater!  And my Colt Dragoon!  And my money.

(Yes, I actually own those weapons)

Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Sir Slash on August 07, 2020, 09:18:58 PM
In the same theme, hoping this game's a 20 lb. Parrot and not just a 6 ib. Smoothbore.  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Geezer on August 08, 2020, 01:54:29 PM
Battle of Perryville:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cenYrJDs-U
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Gusington on August 08, 2020, 06:51:04 PM
Slash you may be tickled to know that I live across the river from the site of the old Cold Spring Foundry, where the barrels for the Parrot guns were cast and tested. The hill I live on was the testing target and even now 150+ years later, old ordnance is still found. About 25 years ago there was a massive forest fire here set off by lightning which ignited some of it.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Sir Slash on August 08, 2020, 08:43:31 PM
How interesting. I would take care gardening then. And maybe burning trash too.  :hide:
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Gusington on August 08, 2020, 09:25:21 PM
The Wife does all the gardening :)
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Tanaka on August 09, 2020, 11:35:03 AM
Good stuff!

https://www.cshpicone.com/gaming/interviews/strategy-mega-interview
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: W8taminute on August 09, 2020, 03:38:40 PM
^Nice article.  Again, I can't wait for this game!   ;D
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Anguille on August 10, 2020, 01:41:06 AM
Impressive game...i hope they add some soundtrack (music).
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: devoncop on August 10, 2020, 01:53:19 AM
Impressive game...i hope they add some soundtrack (music).

There is already a very good soundtrack but for some reason at present it only plays intermittently and at higher zoom levels. I am sure it will be sorted out.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: AchillesLastStand on August 12, 2020, 01:26:59 AM
Here is a link to the manual for testers.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xnXTol0TP-4oo3LqdMKNiP-5aCYSGokevH4LXF268YY/edit
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Father Ted on August 17, 2020, 02:32:07 PM
Impressive game...i hope they add some soundtrack (music).

Interesting - practically the first option I select in any new game is music "off".
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on August 17, 2020, 03:10:29 PM
Impressive game...i hope they add some soundtrack (music).

Interesting - practically the first option I select in any new game is music "off".

+1 In most games I find the music distracting and turn it off.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: smittyohio on August 17, 2020, 03:43:26 PM
Impressive game...i hope they add some soundtrack (music).

Interesting - practically the first option I select in any new game is music "off".

+1 In most games I find the music distracting and turn it off.

I generally lower it to where it doesn't detract from the game, if possible.   If there's no volume control, it generally just gets turned off.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: al_infierno on August 17, 2020, 03:50:48 PM
I like when a strategy game has a nice catchy, warbeat-esque soundtrack (or something otherwise fitting) that gets me in the mood to march into enemy territory and start some big fights.  I prefer the music to be a bit simplistic and repetitive as to not be distracting, but not so repetitive as to get annoying quickly.

The soundtracks in WarPlan, Field of Glory: Empires, and Dominions 5 all come to mind.  They're catchy enough to be fun to listen to on their own, but not too distracting to disrupt your rhythm of play.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: MetalDog on August 17, 2020, 04:02:07 PM
Music off.  Spotify playlist on.  Nothing like grinding your enemies into dust to 'War Pigs,' or, '...And Justice For All.'
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: al_infierno on August 17, 2020, 04:49:59 PM
Music off.  Spotify playlist on.  Nothing like grinding your enemies into dust to 'War Pigs,' or, '...And Justice For All.'

I'd go with Bolt Thrower's "IVth Crusade" as my preferred "war metal" soundtrack, but I can get behind this sentiment (and awesome classic picks) wholeheartedly  :knuppel2:  \m/
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: MetalDog on August 17, 2020, 04:59:03 PM
Atta boy!  \m/ \m/
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Gusington on August 17, 2020, 05:05:19 PM
I consider myself pretty well versed in music and I have never heard of this.

Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: MetalDog on August 17, 2020, 06:13:46 PM
Same and same, Gus.  Sounds like fairly well enunciated growlcore.  I dig the label name in the bottom right hand corner.  "Earache my eye! If you don't get up and get ready for school, you're going to have a butt ache!!"
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: glen55 on August 17, 2020, 06:34:18 PM
Same and same, Gus.  Sounds like fairly well enunciated growlcore.  I dig the label name in the bottom right hand corner.  "Earache my eye! If you don't get up and get ready for school, you're going to have a butt ache!!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJW67QN24SA
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: MetalDog on August 18, 2020, 05:19:16 AM
 O0
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Anguille on August 18, 2020, 05:44:47 AM
The right soundtrack is very important to me. It would like a movie without soundrack.

Some of my favorite games have also fantastic music: Knights of Honor, Civilization VI, Glory of the Roman Empire and Civil War 2: Generals. For the latter, american folk music of the time really helps me dive into the historical period. But yeah, if the soundrack isn't good, like in MOO3, it's better to lower the volume. The first game i had, MOO, didn't have a working sound on my computer so i always played Queen: made in heaven.

Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Geezer on August 18, 2020, 06:15:42 AM
The first thing I do with every new game is turn off the music.   ;D
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: devoncop on August 18, 2020, 07:56:49 AM
The first thing I do with every new game is turn off the music.   ;D

Whereas the John Tiller ACW music is wonderfully atmospheric for me at least so I guess we are indeed all very different  :)
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Gusington on August 18, 2020, 09:00:12 AM
The music of Shogun 2 and Medieval 2 (TW) are absolutely epic.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: twitter3 on August 18, 2020, 11:30:18 AM
I really like (and turn up) the music in BOA:WIA.

Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Sir Slash on August 18, 2020, 12:08:25 PM
Pillars of Eternity 2!  \m/
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Con on August 18, 2020, 01:27:37 PM
Nothing beats the first Homeworld

Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Gusington on August 18, 2020, 01:31:21 PM
 8)

http://www.grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=24757.0
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: hellfish6 on August 18, 2020, 03:53:02 PM
The first thing I do with every new game is turn off the music.   ;D

Yup
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: JasonPratt on August 18, 2020, 05:31:36 PM
I noticed today that the game has the soundtrack for sale separately! (For those people who can't find out how to find and use the music in the folders, perhaps. ;) )
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: nelmsm on August 18, 2020, 08:12:42 PM
The first thing I do with every new game is turn off the music.   ;D

Whereas the John Tiller ACW music is wonderfully atmospheric for me at least so I guess we are indeed all very different  :)

+1
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: hellfish6 on August 21, 2020, 08:43:20 AM
Early access starts today. Soon, I hope...
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: SirAndrewD on August 21, 2020, 09:02:45 AM
Early access starts today. Soon, I hope...

Noon EST according to the chat on Steam.  Going to download while I'm working and dig in after my end of day.  Hopefully some first impressions tonight.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: ArizonaTank on August 21, 2020, 11:19:15 AM
Just happened to have the day off and the wife is out of the house   <:-)

Game downloaded and spent about an hour with it.

First impressions are very, very good.  The interface is polished and pretty clean.

But the game is deep, and there is a bunch going on. It will take me a while to learn it. Still, it looks like everything I ever wanted out of a strategic ACW game. Reminds me somewhat of a mix between Matrix's Forge of Freedom and Ageod's Civil War II, and that is a good thing.

Still, very early in my toe dipping, so no idea how the AI holds up, or if ultimately it manages to hold my attention.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: SirAndrewD on August 21, 2020, 11:28:57 AM
My noon appointment cancelled so getting a quick spin. 

First impression overall...man I have so had reenactor videos in these games ruined for me after spending over a decade in the hobby going from buck private to officer.  Now all I do is nitpick their gear.  I couldn't help but yell "FARBS!" more than once.

Liking the initial impressions on presentation and UI.  Mechanics seem straightforward. 

There are a few formatting resolution issues  with ultrawide monitors, so beware on that front.  Some stuff is cut off and the toggle to disable the field manual is hidden behind the manual.  Also seems to be no way to zoom the OOB screen on an ultrawide and therefore it's nearly impossible to read.  I'm sure these will be sorted fast. 
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on August 21, 2020, 11:32:16 AM
Just happened to have the day off and the wife is out of the house   <:-)

Game downloaded and spent about an hour with it.

First impressions are very, very good.  The interface is polished and pretty clean.

But the game is deep, and there is a bunch going on. It will take me a while to learn it. Still, it looks like everything I ever wanted out of a strategic ACW game. Reminds me somewhat of a mix between Matrix's Forge of Freedom and Ageod's Civil War II, and that is a good thing.

Still, very early in my toe dipping, so no idea how the AI holds up, or if ultimately it manages to hold my attention.

Got it too but haven't put much time into it yet.  The Early Access info detailed in the game makes it very clear there is a lot more to come.  It openly states the Campaign AI and balance need work, there are limited saves and limited battle maps, all of which are historical.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: devoncop on August 21, 2020, 12:14:00 PM
This is a definite buy for me but I am going to wait either until full release or further through the Early Access process.

I don't want the inevitable bugs and balancing issues to disillusion me so I fail to return to the game when it is more complete.

This is my mature and considered approach.

This is my grand plan

The chances of it surviving first contact with the enemy (in this case a host of gushing reviews from early adopters like Sir Andrew,Arizona Tank and Rayfer above)  are probably not good.

Gentlemen. Consider your responsibilities... ;)
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: jamus34 on August 21, 2020, 01:18:47 PM
Well I will admit sometimes it’s fun to watch a game grow and change (Factorio, Oxygen not included), at least when the developer continues to work, support and communicate with the fans and customer base.

Then you get the games that arrive on EA have a strong 2-3 weeks of sales along with developer communication and then becomes vaporware. I’ve bought a couple of those games too.

Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: SirAndrewD on August 21, 2020, 01:27:17 PM
Got to finally get to work and get on my 2:30 call, but I will say, I've seen finished Civil War Grand strategy games in worse shape than this EA title. 

It's very polished for what it is.  Clearly a ways to go in some areas, but I'm so far impressed, even if the videos have Farbs. 
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Toonces on August 21, 2020, 03:02:41 PM
I feel like I'm going to have to buy this game and some beer, and settle in for a long, long night....   :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Gusington on August 21, 2020, 03:14:44 PM
Me too!
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: hellfish6 on August 21, 2020, 03:25:03 PM
So I've definitely had some bugs, the UI went missing on me, a CTD, and I don't know how some of the mechanics work (I upgraded the rifles of most of the Union Army... not sure if/how/when it is actually implemented and the units get new weapons). I'm trying to standardize my army on one rifle, one carbine and a couple of artillery pieces for the bonus.

But overall it's fun. Definitely don't buy into this if you're on the fence - give it at least a few weeks for the most egregious bugs to be fixed. It's largely holding to its promise of being the be-all and end-all of ACW games.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Queeg on August 21, 2020, 03:39:29 PM
Downloaded and poked around for a bit.  Good first impressions.  The game looks great.  And it appears to be the first game I've seen at this scale to have an actual, relevant Shenandoah Valley.

I can confirm the ultrawide issues.  Menus cut off at 3440x1440.  Looks fine at 2560x1440, albeit with black bands on the edges.  Hopefully that will be fixed. 

I'm encouraged.     
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: MOS:96B2P on August 21, 2020, 04:31:25 PM
Grand Tactician ACW sounds very interesting.  I was a big fan of Sid Meier's Gettysburg and I bought Ultimate General Civil War while waiting for this.  I would like to wait until the game is a little more finished but each positive review makes it more difficult to wait .......  Looking forward to more impressions of the game.       
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: MetalDog on August 21, 2020, 04:33:52 PM
Grand Tactician ACW sounds very interesting.  I was a big fan of Sid Meier's Gettysburg and I bought Ultimate General Civil War while waiting for this.   would like to wait until the game is a little more finished but each positive review makes it more difficult to wait .......  Looking forward to more impressions of the game.       

^This

A question.  Is/will there be mp?
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: W8taminute on August 21, 2020, 05:50:53 PM
Just happened to have the day off and the wife is out of the house   <:-)

...

That is the greatest gift a wife could give to her man.  Ladies take note.  LOL

...

The chances of it surviving first contact with the enemy (in this case a host of gushing reviews from early adopters like Sir Andrew,Arizona Tank and Rayfer above)  are probably not good.

Gentlemen. Consider your responsibilities... ;)

Was it Napoleon who said all plans go out the window on first contact or something like that?
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: steve58 on August 21, 2020, 05:59:15 PM
Eisenhower I think. Nope was von Moltke.  maybe both  :-\
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: CJReich46 on August 21, 2020, 06:50:44 PM
"“No plan survives first contact with the enemy, what matters is how quickly the leader is able to adapt"- Helmuth Von Moltke.

Sorry googled it  ;)

But the game does sound interesting. I don't think I have many if at all Civil War Games. I think the only one I have is Civil War Gens 2.   :hide:
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: al_infierno on August 21, 2020, 08:07:17 PM
“No plan survives first contact with the enemy, what matters is how quickly the leader is able to adapt - Helmuth Von Moltke"  - Dwight Eisenhower   ;)
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: AchillesLastStand on August 21, 2020, 10:26:11 PM
Grand Tactician ACW sounds very interesting.  I was a big fan of Sid Meier's Gettysburg and I bought Ultimate General Civil War while waiting for this.   would like to wait until the game is a little more finished but each positive review makes it more difficult to wait .......  Looking forward to more impressions of the game.       

^This

A question.  Is/will there be mp?

Found this quote from a developer about a month ago.

"The game will not have multiplayer on release. But we are planning on getting into multiplayer later"
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: AchillesLastStand on August 21, 2020, 10:28:03 PM
Patch notes are posted on the next patch which should be available in 5-7 days. It includes adjustments to the UI for widescreens.
Battles:
- AI brigades now use fallbacks if outflanked (not only if morale is low)
- increased melee losses
- reworked retreat mechanism away from the enemy
- broken groups are now not taking offensive actions any more

Campaign:
- fixed too high attrition due to rainfall
- fixed non-disappearing empty units, when moving between hierarchies the moved unit remained - in its old group in the background
- opening a main panel now pauses the game
- fixed: fort engagements with annihilated troops led to disappearing UI panels

Others:
- UI adjustment to fit widescreen resolutions
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: SirAndrewD on August 21, 2020, 10:43:01 PM
I actually did about a 51 minute first impressions video for this on Youtube, but, well, won't upload.  Stuck constantly at 0% processing no matter what I tried.  So no good things for anyone.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Anguille on August 21, 2020, 11:45:46 PM
Sounds exciting but i am going to wait for the final release, don't have time to play this right now.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: SirAndrewD on August 22, 2020, 12:18:50 AM
I was pretty psyched...

(https://i.ibb.co/2Skx8MJ/540313-10150689134196857-1217589311-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Sir Slash on August 22, 2020, 09:27:56 AM
I take back everything bad I've EVER said about you SirAndrew.  :hug:
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: steve58 on August 22, 2020, 09:48:05 AM
I was pretty psyched...

(https://i.ibb.co/2Skx8MJ/540313-10150689134196857-1217589311-n.jpg)

Does that cooler make you a farb?  >:D
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: bobarossa on August 22, 2020, 09:48:41 AM
Are those regulation Civil War sunglasses and jeans? 
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Father Ted on August 22, 2020, 09:52:17 AM
This is a definite buy for me but I am going to wait either until full release or further through the Early Access process.

I don't want the inevitable bugs and balancing issues to disillusion me so I fail to return to the game when it is more complete.

This is my mature and considered approach.

This is my grand plan

The chances of it surviving first contact with the enemy (in this case a host of gushing reviews from early adopters like Sir Andrew,Arizona Tank and Rayfer above)  are probably not good.

Gentlemen. Consider your responsibilities... ;)

Also my grand plan
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: JasonPratt on August 22, 2020, 11:12:13 AM
Step 1.) Wait until out of EA.
Step 2.) Spend the money I saved on pre-ordering Iron Harvest.
Step 3.) .....
Step 4.) Profit?
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Gusington on August 22, 2020, 12:20:31 PM
I want to make that above pic of SirAndrew my new avatar but I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on August 22, 2020, 01:40:16 PM
Is anyone else finding the UI difficult to navigate around in? 
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: JasonPratt on August 22, 2020, 01:58:47 PM
Does that cooler make you a farb?  >:D

It's filled with potted meat and pemmican.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: SirAndrewD on August 22, 2020, 02:43:00 PM
I want to make that above pic of SirAndrew my new avatar but I'm afraid.

If you use that one how would you be able to use this one...

(https://i.ibb.co/2Nxb5tW/540022-10150688957816857-1079304981-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: SirAndrewD on August 22, 2020, 02:52:22 PM
Oh..wow...well...my video posted..

Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Toonces on August 22, 2020, 04:15:25 PM
I know one always must take Steam reviews with a large grain of salt, but it sounds like this game needs to cook a bit.  This is certainly an eventual buy, but like Bannerlord I'm thinking letting this simmer a bit isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: SirAndrewD on August 22, 2020, 04:28:50 PM
I know one always must take Steam reviews with a large grain of salt, but it sounds like this game needs to cook a bit.  This is certainly an eventual buy, but like Bannerlord I'm thinking letting this simmer a bit isn't necessarily a bad thing.

It absolutely needs to have a robust save feature.  Messed up last night and tried to do my battle impression video in two parts, forgetting that the battles didn't save like the campaign does. 

But, yeah, your campaign is going to break and you'll lose your save unless you go and manually back it up occasionally. 

That said, I'm finding it a lot of fun.  More fun than first iteration of Bannerlord.  The difference here is that I'm not sure Bannerlord is ever really going to get where I hoped it would be, and I saw that in some ways right away.  This game absolutely has the nuts and bolts already in place.   Right now it's just bug smashing, balance, quality of life and UI that needs work, not the wholesale adding of hugely missing features like Bannerlord. 

Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 22, 2020, 05:34:21 PM
I'll admit that I am wrestling with a refund at this point.....although completely understand it is an early access game and comes with bugs, it also cost $40.  Not necessarily "feeling" it right now and does appear to have a number of issues to sort out...but probably the thing that has me the most nervous is the developer's previous game (7 Year War) never really worked out for me so not a lot of positive history to bank on.  And from what I understand, the final game will only be roughly 10% more than early access cost so getting a cheaper price for EA is not a major decision point for me.

I just really like the Civil War and "if" the developer is able to pull off everything, certainly would be a dream come true....just have my doubts if it will get there....but I freely admit that is only speculation, nothing to back it up.   So I might just refund now and jump back in when I see a lot of the features added and more positive feedback....I'll think on it for another day or two:)
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on August 22, 2020, 07:10:49 PM
I know one always must take Steam reviews with a large grain of salt, but it sounds like this game needs to cook a bit.  This is certainly an eventual buy, but like Bannerlord I'm thinking letting this simmer a bit isn't necessarily a bad thing.

It absolutely needs to have a robust save feature.  Messed up last night and tried to do my battle impression video in two parts, forgetting that the battles didn't save like the campaign does. 

But, yeah, your campaign is going to break and you'll lose your save unless you go and manually back it up occasionally. 

That said, I'm finding it a lot of fun.  More fun than first iteration of Bannerlord.  The difference here is that I'm not sure Bannerlord is ever really going to get where I hoped it would be, and I saw that in some ways right away.  This game absolutely has the nuts and bolts already in place.   Right now it's just bug smashing, balance, quality of life and UI that needs work, not the wholesale adding of hugely missing features like Bannerlord.

I'm really into the game but as you point out the UI and save functions need work.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: W8taminute on August 22, 2020, 08:02:35 PM
Initial thoughts so far after playing for about 3hrs.

I'm experimenting with the '61 campaign as the Union.  (I know the developers have said stay away from the '61 campaign but I can't.  Therefor I will limit my comments to just general impressions and not focus on obvious bugs that the devs are working on.)

Font size - need to be bigger.  My old eyes can't see everything because the print is too small.  I'm running the screen resolution at 1900xwhatever the next number is you get the point.

No tooltip popups where they are needed most - Meaning when I hover over text in a unit card I can't get additional information regarding why I'm losing so many men to non combat related causes.

Lag - The software code needs optimization in order to have the game run smoother. 

The game is fun despite the problems - There is really a hidden gem in this game once all the bugs are worked out.  The game is very deep but not difficult to grasp.  Some mechanics have no documentation yet but once things are better explained this game will be fun.

No naval battles controlled by the player - Naval battles are auto resolved. 


My recommendation is stay away until out of EA or at least until most of the game is polished before actual release.  I knew what I was getting into but my gut feeling is to help support the devs.  That is the main reason why I decided to purchase.  If this game does indeed survive to maturity it will be epic.  I'm willing to gamble my 40 bucks on the game but you may not agree.  Go with your gut on this one.  If you think you should wait then wait. 

Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: SirAndrewD on August 22, 2020, 08:41:58 PM
I concur, my $40 was dev support.  The game needs a lot of work, but as I said, I've seen games in far, far worse shape in EA. 

I'm mostly going to have fun with this possibly doing more videos and getting my history fix using this game to talk about history.  Teaching is well in my rear view but I still enjoy doing it and miss it.

I really wish I was physically able to reenact again!  Games like this awaken that spark in me. 
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on August 23, 2020, 10:58:37 AM
Initial thoughts so far after playing for about 3hrs.

I'm experimenting with the '61 campaign as the Union.  (I know the developers have said stay away from the '61 campaign but I can't.  Therefor I will limit my comments to just general impressions and not focus on obvious bugs that the devs are working on.)

Font size - need to be bigger.  My old eyes can't see everything because the print is too small.  I'm running the screen resolution at 1900xwhatever the next number is you get the point.

No tooltip popups where they are needed most - Meaning when I hover over text in a unit card I can't get additional information regarding why I'm losing so many men to non combat related causes.

Lag - The software code needs optimization in order to have the game run smoother. 

The game is fun despite the problems - There is really a hidden gem in this game once all the bugs are worked out.  The game is very deep but not difficult to grasp.  Some mechanics have no documentation yet but once things are better explained this game will be fun.

No naval battles controlled by the player - Naval battles are auto resolved. 


My recommendation is stay away until out of EA or at least until most of the game is polished before actual release.  I knew what I was getting into but my gut feeling is to help support the devs.  That is the main reason why I decided to purchase.  If this game does indeed survive to maturity it will be epic.  I'm willing to gamble my 40 bucks on the game but you may not agree.  Go with your gut on this one.  If you think you should wait then wait.

I agree with all your points detailed above.  The UI is awkward at best, and needs work.  Do you have any insights as to what to do with the Goods and Trade, and Production screens?  All in all it has the start of being a truly great ACW game.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: glen55 on August 23, 2020, 12:13:56 PM
I got it and found it difficult to get going. I'm likely to put it aside until the devs or somebody on Youtube makes it easier to get started. It's a little overwhelming from my coddled, 2020 perspective.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on August 23, 2020, 12:25:34 PM
I got it and found it difficult to get going. I'm likely to put it aside until the devs or somebody on Youtube makes it easier to get started. It's a little overwhelming from my coddled, 2020 perspective.

This YouTube, 3 video series helped me get started on an 1861-start Union campaign.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-dBoiyz_5M
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: W8taminute on August 23, 2020, 03:12:47 PM
Rayfer

I'm still trying to figure out what to do with the trade and production screens as well.  I've left them to be automanaged by the AI but I'm sure there is some information there that can be of use.  Maybe even be manipulated by the player such as building/upgrading factories and farms but I haven't figured it out yet. 
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on August 23, 2020, 03:39:57 PM
Rayfer

I'm still trying to figure out what to do with the trade and production screens as well.  I've left them to be automanaged by the AI but I'm sure there is some information there that can be of use.  Maybe even be manipulated by the player such as building/upgrading factories and farms but I haven't figured it out yet.

Exactly....!  I didn't see where either one had an auto-manage button like the Finance tab does?  May putting Finance on auto-manage includes goods and trade, and production as well?
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: glen55 on August 23, 2020, 04:14:53 PM
I got it and found it difficult to get going. I'm likely to put it aside until the devs or somebody on Youtube makes it easier to get started. It's a little overwhelming from my coddled, 2020 perspective.

This YouTube, 3 video series helped me get started on an 1861-start Union campaign.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-dBoiyz_5M

Thanks, I didn't look at that one because the 1861 campaign is said not to be finished, but if the video goes over general gameplay it would still be worth looking at, I think.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: W8taminute on August 23, 2020, 07:08:54 PM
Won my first battle in the 1861 campaign as the Union!  Whoo hoo!

It was my 4000 infantry backed up by 7 six pound guns vs. his 2000 infantry, 300 cavalry, and 8 six pound guns.  I had 964 losses against his 650 but after I wiped out his arty he fled.

I also noted that in order to get the war going you have to select the policy called "Volunteer service 3 months" or some such policy.  Doing that with Lincoln as president caused the war to begin.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: MOS:96B2P on August 23, 2020, 09:18:41 PM
I watched a U-Tube video tonight about the game by TortugaPower.  In the video his commander ordered a detached unit to take an objective.  A horse & rider appeared on the field and rode out from the main force.  The messenger on horse back rode over to the detachment and delivered the new orders.  Until the new orders were received the detachment continued to march in a different direction.  I thought the messenger thing was very cool.  I wonder if the messengers can be intercepted?  Maybe killed or captured? 
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on August 24, 2020, 05:56:17 AM
I watched a U-Tube video tonight about the game by TortugaPower.  In the video his commander ordered a detached unit to take an objective.  A horse & rider appeared on the field and rode out from the main force.  The messenger on horse back rode over to the detachment and delivered the new orders.  Until the new orders were received the detachment continued to march in a different direction.  I thought the messenger thing was very cool.  I wonder if the messengers can be intercepted?  Maybe killed or captured?

I like that feature too, but I'm not sure if they can be killed or captured.  You can turn off 'order delay' in the options menu if you want your brigades to immediately do what you order them to do.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: W8taminute on August 24, 2020, 09:44:18 AM
One thing I like about the messenger system even though it means delayed orders is that it recreates the uncertainties of battle.  This is not Total War with a USCW skin on it.  In fact the battles do not feel like Total War at all.  I imagine however if you remove the option for order delay the game would still be different from the Total War series.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on August 26, 2020, 01:12:09 PM
Big update today.  Details on Steam.  Appears to me it is not compatible with prior saves.  Also it is suggested you do a 'file integrity' check.  I did and found 7 files that needed updating, which Steam did automatically.

Edit: Update broke the game for me and many others.  Crashes to desktop and 'program not responding' issues prevent play.  I hope the developer addresses this soon, it is an engaging game. 
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Sir Slash on August 26, 2020, 08:50:30 PM
Ouch! Damn that's tough. Sounds like there's still lots of work to be done.  #:-)
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: SirAndrewD on August 26, 2020, 09:53:28 PM
It's improved a ton since Thursday for those that the latest patch is stable for.   I've found the battles to play out much better. 

UI is also very improved.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on August 27, 2020, 06:21:35 AM
It's improved a ton since Thursday for those that the latest patch is stable for.   I've found the battles to play out much better. 

UI is also very improved.

That's good to know because I was enjoying the game before the update.  I'm sadly one of those who are having issues.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: W8taminute on August 27, 2020, 04:30:05 PM
Game ran fine for me after yesterday's update however I ran into an 'old' bug where your campaign save game got wiped out if you exit a battle.  This happened on a fresh 1862 campaign that I started post new patch.   :(
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on August 27, 2020, 07:58:09 PM
Apparently they did a quick fix update.  I'm back up and running again with no problems.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: MOS:96B2P on September 05, 2020, 07:27:56 PM
How are things going with the game?  Anything new or interesting? 
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on September 05, 2020, 07:32:44 PM
How are things going with the game?  Anything new or interesting?

There have been a couple of updates with improvements recently.  There is another expected within the next few days.  The 1861 campaign is still mostly unplayable and is the target of some of the fixes coming in the next few days.  The 1862 start is playable but still needs work.  I suspect it is still a long ways off from a full release.  Steam has long, itemized lists of all the update changes, too much to detial here.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: MOS:96B2P on September 06, 2020, 07:53:11 PM
How are things going with the game?  Anything new or interesting?

There have been a couple of updates with improvements recently.  There is another expected within the next few days.  The 1861 campaign is still mostly unplayable and is the target of some of the fixes coming in the next few days.  The 1862 start is playable but still needs work.  I suspect it is still a long ways off from a full release.  Steam has long, itemized lists of all the update changes, too much to detial here.

Okay, thanks.  I went over to Steam and looked around.  If I can keep from buying it until at least Halloween ....  ;D
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on September 12, 2020, 10:35:52 AM
The developer has been busy with fixes and updates. Still a long ways off from full release but he added another 1861 campaign starting in July (the original, still available, had a late February start).  He is starting work on the economy/production/goods and trade aspects, which so far have not been covered much at all. 
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: t4rget on September 13, 2020, 02:38:12 AM
It sounds very promising.  :D
 
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on September 24, 2020, 08:00:48 AM
Another big update yesterday on Steam.

Latest Patch 0.7505
Uploaded Sept 23, 2020:

Campaign:
- fixed: dummy commanders always start with attribute values zero
- fixed: commanders do not take over status and attributes from battle back to campaign
- fixed: suitable commanders not shown for replacements
- fixed: Go-West policy increases support in Arkansas instead of Arizona
- reworked campaign finish
- pause button now suspended when renaming units
- fixed: ships without tech constructable when deactivating checkmark “tech available”
- fixed: forts that are set to be removed at a certain date are removed when reloading a saved game after this date
- stopping armies in campaign now does not stop subordinates
- fixed: perk selection sometimes selected wrongly (if a different perk was selected before)
- fixed: ship to construct is added to fleet instead of pool if a ship was created for a fleet before
- added further commander pictures
- added further soldier images
- fixed: “2nd battle crash”
- fixed newspaper messages popping up for policies that are not active
- fixed: repeating policy newspaper messages after battles
- double assigning of commanders is not possible any more
- non-arrived units cannot be merged any more
- navy commanders can now not be commander in chief any more
- filter prefs are now saved
- retreating units cannot be stopped any more
- shorter retreat distances
- game stays paused if leaving menus/newspaper (if it was paused by player before)
- fixed: trade agreements are not recognized
- surrendered units now disappear from campaign map

Battles:
- added new 3D models for maps
- sunrise now in the east
- retreating units cannot be stopped any more
- fixed: no music is being played if battle is won

Other:
- improved scene loading speed
- added new commander pictures
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: W8taminute on September 24, 2020, 01:11:13 PM
I'm happy to see that they are still working on the game.  I haven't touched it in a while but I so want this game to succeed.  Keep going strong Grand Tactician!
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: MOS:96B2P on October 18, 2020, 08:00:48 AM
Looks like they are still making improvements to Grand Tactician.  Another patch was released on 13 October.   
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on October 18, 2020, 10:05:24 AM
Looks like they are still making improvements to Grand Tactician.  Another patch was released on 13 October.   

It's slowly but surely coming together. But still a long way to go.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: W8taminute on November 23, 2020, 07:40:17 AM
Ok so I fired up the game over the weekend in response to the new patch that some YouTubers are saying have changed the game drastically since early release. 

I played for about 3 hours or so in addition the 8 I had put in a few months ago.  I've come to the conclusion that while this is a good game it is nothing more than building up armies in a strategic layer and then watching them duke it out on a tactical layer.  While the economy and industry are very deep in this game there really isn't much the player needs to do to affect them.  Simply spend money and build up your armies then send them out and watch the fights begin. 

I'm bored.  Next game please...
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Rayfer on November 23, 2020, 08:11:47 AM
Ok so I fired up the game over the weekend in response to the new patch that some YouTubers are saying have changed the game drastically since early release. 

I played for about 3 hours or so in addition the 8 I had put in a few months ago.  I've come to the conclusion that while this is a good game it is nothing more than building up armies in a strategic layer and then watching them duke it out on a tactical layer.  While the economy and industry are very deep in this game there really isn't much the player needs to do to affect them.  Simply spend money and build up your armies then send them out and watch the fights begin. 

I'm bored.  Next game please...

Unfortunately, I have to agree.  Deleted it yesterday after playing a few hours with the newest update.  But I'll definitely go back at some future time when there is more to it than what you posted.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Sir Slash on November 23, 2020, 10:13:54 AM
Sad to hear.  :'(
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: W8taminute on November 23, 2020, 02:11:16 PM
Ok so I fired up the game over the weekend in response to the new patch that some YouTubers are saying have changed the game drastically since early release. 

I played for about 3 hours or so in addition the 8 I had put in a few months ago.  I've come to the conclusion that while this is a good game it is nothing more than building up armies in a strategic layer and then watching them duke it out on a tactical layer.  While the economy and industry are very deep in this game there really isn't much the player needs to do to affect them.  Simply spend money and build up your armies then send them out and watch the fights begin. 

I'm bored.  Next game please...

Unfortunately, I have to agree.  Deleted it yesterday after playing a few hours with the newest update.  But I'll definitely go back at some future time when there is more to it than what you posted.

Yeah I think I'll delete it off my drive as well.  I will like you say keep my eyes out for when the finished product is completed.  I still support these guys but I'm done for now.

Sad to hear.  :'(

Yeah.  If you haven't done so already save your money on this one.   
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: berto on November 24, 2020, 03:15:59 PM
Doesn't GTACW have stand-alone historical battles, apart from the strategic layer?  If the strategic layer is a bust and/or the interfacing of the strategic layer with the dynamic battle layer is a bust, is the historical battle layer by itself still worthwhile?
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: W8taminute on November 24, 2020, 04:41:16 PM
I haven't tried the stand alone historic battles so I can't really comment but I will say this.  I enjoy the tactical battle system of this game in campaign mode.  So I would think the historical battles would be enjoyable.
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: Toonces on February 08, 2021, 06:42:39 PM
I just went ahead and picked this up. 

What can I say?  I'm a ACW fanboy, I have to give this a try at least!
Title: Re: Grand Tactician, American Civil War
Post by: gregb41352 on February 08, 2021, 07:53:01 PM
I'll be interested to hear your impression of the game.