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Offline Destraex

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Re: Another Super Virus from China
« Reply #375 on: March 26, 2020, 04:38:06 AM »
This news is from our private right wing (read conservative pro capitalist political stance) Australian news group.
They are claiming that Chinese Companies were asked by the chinese government to procure masks, hazmat suits etc from around the world without consulting the governments from those countries and sent them back to china.

I guess the other question is whether it is ok to source stuff for your mother country when it in need without asking for our governments co-operation.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/second-developer-flies-82-tonnes-of-medical-supplies-to-china-20200326-p54e8n.html?fbclid=IwAR3ZPvCHP0eaQAuYVbDW8Tm24qOusDdkuuPXequPqCAKCZKSkZGRayCUn0M

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Re: Another Super Virus from China
« Reply #376 on: March 26, 2020, 08:29:31 AM »
I guess the other question is whether it is ok to source stuff for your mother country when it in need without asking for our governments co-operation.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/16/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-big-pharma-president-drugs-industry-profit

The news that Donald Trump has sought to buy up the exclusive rights to a promising Covid-19 vaccine from a German biotech firm has been greeted with anger. During a global crisis, when all of humanity is at risk, our sense of fairness – and our own self-interest – makes this shameless attempt to buy the right to life (with little regard for those it excludes) seem immoral.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/world/europe/cornonavirus-vaccine-us-germany.html

The Trump administration attempted to persuade a German firm developing a possible vaccine for coronavirus to move its research work to the United States, German officials said, raising fears in Berlin that President Trump was trying to assure that any inoculation would be available first, and perhaps exclusively, in the United States.

Germany’s interior minister, Horst Seehofer, said that Chancellor Angela Merkel, who has a famously testy relationship with Mr. Trump, will lead a crisis meeting with ministers on Monday that will include discussion of a German defense strategy for the firm.



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-usa/germany-tries-to-halt-u-s-interest-in-firm-working-on-coronavirus-vaccine-idUSKBN2120IV
https://www.wsj.com/articles/germany-accuses-u-s-of-trying-to-lure-a-drug-maker-working-on-coronavirus-vaccine-11584297821

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Re: Another Super Virus from China
« Reply #377 on: March 26, 2020, 08:47:00 AM »

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/16/trump-coronavirus-vaccine-big-pharma-president-drugs-industry-profit

The news that Donald Trump has sought to buy up the exclusive rights to a promising Covid-19 vaccine from a German biotech firm has been greeted with anger. During a global crisis, when all of humanity is at risk, our sense of fairness – and our own self-interest – makes this shameless attempt to buy the right to life (with little regard for those it excludes) seem immoral.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/15/world/europe/cornonavirus-vaccine-us-germany.html

The Trump administration attempted to persuade a German firm developing a possible vaccine for coronavirus to move its research work to the United States, German officials said, raising fears in Berlin that President Trump was trying to assure that any inoculation would be available first, and perhaps exclusively, in the United States.

Germany’s interior minister, Horst Seehofer, said that Chancellor Angela Merkel, who has a famously testy relationship with Mr. Trump, will lead a crisis meeting with ministers on Monday that will include discussion of a German defense strategy for the firm.



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-germany-usa/germany-tries-to-halt-u-s-interest-in-firm-working-on-coronavirus-vaccine-idUSKBN2120IV
https://www.wsj.com/articles/germany-accuses-u-s-of-trying-to-lure-a-drug-maker-working-on-coronavirus-vaccine-11584297821

This is an unverified lie. Please do not post this propaganda here. this thread is not meant to be divisive. If you must spread this nonsense, do it in RPFW.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/03/17/trump-poach-coronavirus-vaccine/
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Re: Another Super Virus from China
« Reply #378 on: March 26, 2020, 10:13:26 AM »

This is an unverified lie. Please do not post this propaganda here. this thread is not meant to be divisive. If you must spread this nonsense, do it in RPFW.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/03/17/trump-poach-coronavirus-vaccine/

I had other reliable sources in Dutch and in German that confirmed this.  As this was also on Reuters I assumed it was correct as this is a trusted source of news.

If this information is wrong I apologise.

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Re: Another Super Virus from China
« Reply #379 on: March 26, 2020, 10:24:02 AM »

This is an unverified lie. Please do not post this propaganda here. this thread is not meant to be divisive. If you must spread this nonsense, do it in RPFW.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/03/17/trump-poach-coronavirus-vaccine/

I had other reliable sources in Dutch and in German that confirmed this.  As this was also on Reuters I assumed it was correct as this is a trusted source of news.

If this information is wrong I apologise.

Oh, well, if it is in Dutch and German, it must be true. Give me a break.

Regardless, RPFW.
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Re: Another Super Virus from China
« Reply #380 on: March 26, 2020, 08:36:30 PM »
Grocery store situation here is close to normal.  Wal-Mart and Kroger were out of Bleach and the type of brown rice you can easily microwave.  We were low on brown rice and I need bleach to finish up a pressure washing job.

Beans and rice were low (we did not need any) but everything else was close to normal stock levels.  Paper products were adequate - but lower than normal.  All of the normal daily delivery stuff (milk, eggs, cheese, chips, etc...) were fully stocked.  Plenty of beer and bacon.  Regretfully, Auburn's meat lab is closed for the foreseeable future which is sad since they produce the best bacon I've ever had cooked at home.

We impulse purchased the Clint Eastwood spagetti westerns (for $10), the Teen Titans new series from the DC Network, and Happy Death Day to You.

We may be better than normal because college students are about 40% of the population - and most have left.

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Re: Another Super Virus from China
« Reply #381 on: March 27, 2020, 03:20:14 AM »
Teen Titans is splendid!
Super humorous and many blasts from the pasts in a clever way.
My son of 7 loves it as a cartoon, I love it for the humor and wittyness. Good choice!

Meanwhile we are approaching the redline of IC beds taken.
The Army has provided more breathing machines and I hear even vets are supplying machines.
Meanwhile Philips have stated they have increased production of medical machinery and gadgets. And with their breathing machines having overcapacity it might be feasible to connect two patients to one machine if needed.

Preparations have completed to start building an emergency hospital as soon as its needed.
Yesterday we’ve seen the most deaths in 24 hrs since the start, so it seems like we’re getting to the steep end of the graph now.
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Re: Another Super Virus from China
« Reply #382 on: March 27, 2020, 03:52:49 AM »

This is an unverified lie. Please do not post this propaganda here. this thread is not meant to be divisive. If you must spread this nonsense, do it in RPFW.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/03/17/trump-poach-coronavirus-vaccine/

I had other reliable sources in Dutch and in German that confirmed this.  As this was also on Reuters I assumed it was correct as this is a trusted source of news.

If this information is wrong I apologise.

Oh, well, if it is in Dutch and German, it must be true. Give me a break.

Regardless, RPFW.
What would be the problem it is was true? Every government tries to do it's best for it's own population.

I had not heard about it, but it seems it was also reported in the official news:

https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/corona-impfstoff-deutschland-usa-101.html

Sorry if i misunderstood something.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2020, 04:22:20 AM by Anguille »

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Re: Another Super Virus from China
« Reply #383 on: March 27, 2020, 04:42:22 AM »

This is an unverified lie. Please do not post this propaganda here. this thread is not meant to be divisive. If you must spread this nonsense, do it in RPFW.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/03/17/trump-poach-coronavirus-vaccine/

I had other reliable sources in Dutch and in German that confirmed this.  As this was also on Reuters I assumed it was correct as this is a trusted source of news.

If this information is wrong I apologise.

Oh, well, if it is in Dutch and German, it must be true. Give me a break.

Regardless, RPFW.
What would be the problem it is was true? Every government tries to do it's best for it's own population.

I had not heard about it, but it seems it was also reported in the official news:

https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/corona-impfstoff-deutschland-usa-101.html

Sorry if i misunderstood something.

I'm not getting into it here. If you insist on going down this road, do it in RPFW.
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Re: Another Super Virus from China
« Reply #384 on: March 27, 2020, 04:59:16 AM »
I'm not getting into it here. If you insist on going down this road, do it in RPFW.
No intention to start or continue a polemic (i haven't been in RPFW for years and have no intention to go back there, not my kind of discussions). I am only interested in factual discussions of news. Sorry if it was wrongly understood but it seemed genuine news.  Cheers.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2020, 05:07:33 AM by Anguille »

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Re: Another Super Virus from China
« Reply #385 on: March 27, 2020, 05:29:41 AM »
It is clearly not "genuine" news. See the snopes link I posted. Additionally, on its face, the linked articles are ridiculous. They insinuate that "Donald Trump", in essence attempted to bribe foreign pharmaceutical companies for exclusive rights for profit and to prevent others from benefitting from the research. Absolutely absurd. Any further discussion I expect to see in RPFW.
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Re: Another Super Virus from China
« Reply #386 on: March 27, 2020, 05:35:07 AM »
It is clearly not "genuine" news. See the snopes link I posted. Additionally, on its face, the linked articles are ridiculous. They insinuate that "Donald Trump", in essence attempted to bribe foreign pharmaceutical companies for exclusive rights for profit and to prevent others from benefitting from the research. Absolutely absurd. Any further discussion I expect to see in RPFW.
It seems official news system were fooled then. One of the risks to rely on fewer and fewer news agencies.

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Re: Another Super Virus from China
« Reply #387 on: March 27, 2020, 05:52:14 AM »
It is clearly not "genuine" news. See the snopes link I posted. Additionally, on its face, the linked articles are ridiculous. They insinuate that "Donald Trump", in essence attempted to bribe foreign pharmaceutical companies for exclusive rights for profit and to prevent others from benefitting from the research. Absolutely absurd. Any further discussion I expect to see in RPFW.
It seems official news system were fooled then. One of the risks to rely on fewer and fewer news agencies.

They werent fooled. They are biased. They didn’t verify the information and ran with the story anyway, because it is critical of Trump. Are we finished here yet?

I don’t mind if you guys want to discuss this stuff, but it doesn’t belong in his thread or forum. Move into RPFW. This is only the 4th time I’m asking.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2020, 05:55:06 AM by Jarhead0331 »
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Re: Another Super Virus from China
« Reply #388 on: March 27, 2020, 06:29:07 AM »
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Re: Another Super Virus from China
« Reply #389 on: March 27, 2020, 06:44:14 AM »
Boris Johnson is sick with Coronavirus.

I got an alert about that this morning. Hope his symptoms are mild. What's the latest on Prince Charles?
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