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Offline Staggerwing

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Re: Ships!
« Reply #120 on: November 10, 2013, 05:23:58 AM »
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Re: Ships!
« Reply #121 on: November 10, 2013, 05:28:51 AM »
Quote from: bayonetbrant on November 10, 2013, 05:09:25 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on November 08, 2013, 05:52:30 PM
I didn't watch those cartoons. In the 80's I either was too hung over on Saturday mornings or still out somewhere from the night before.

I was in Germany with no access to English-language TV and I still knew what the hell they were

Well, I did guess correctly. I just didn't watch.
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Re: Ships!
« Reply #122 on: November 10, 2013, 06:06:02 AM »
Tirpitz!  Send in the Tall-Boys
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Re: Ships!
« Reply #123 on: November 13, 2013, 05:51:44 PM »
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Re: Ships!
« Reply #124 on: November 13, 2013, 07:47:38 PM »
Amazing that we carry more ships - the Soviets/Russians are known for making bigger everything.
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« Reply #125 on: November 13, 2013, 11:18:33 PM »
yeah, its amazing what 70 years of actual combat cruises can teach a navy.  ;)
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« Reply #126 on: November 13, 2013, 11:32:22 PM »
chew on this tidbit:

IJN Soryu class fleet carrier:
Displacement:    16,200 tonnes (15,900 long tons) (standard)
                19,100 tonnes (18,800 long tons) (normal)
Length:    227.5 m (746 ft 5 in) (o/a)
Beam:    21.3 m (69 ft 11 in)
Draught:    7.6 m (24 ft 11 in)
18 Mitsubishi A6M Zero, 18 Aichi D3A, 18 Nakajima B5N (Dec. 1941)

modern Izumo class 'helicopter destroyer':
Displacement:    19,500 tonnes empty
                27,000 tons full load
Length:    248.0 m
Beam:    38.0 m
Draft:    7.5 m
Depth:    23.5 m
7 ASW helicopters and 2 SAR helicopters
14 aircraft maximum

and an Essex class carrier:
Displacement:    Design: 27,100 long tons (27,500 t) std, 33,000 long tons (34,000 t) full
Actual: 30,800 long tons (31,300 t) std, 36,380 long tons (36,960 t) full
Length:    820 ft (249.9 m) pp
870 ft (265.2 m) oa (short-bow units); 888 ft (270.7 m) oa (long-bow units)
862 ft (262.7 m) flight deck (short-bow units); 844 ft (257.3 m) flight deck (long-bow units).
Beam:    93 ft (28.3 m) wl; 147.5 ft (45.0 m) max
Draught:    23 ft (7.0 m) std; 27.5 ft (8.4 m) fl
Aircraft carried:    90–100 (Lexington 110 aircraft)
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Re: Ships!
« Reply #127 on: November 14, 2013, 04:17:54 AM »
^Which is exactly why these new Japanese 'destroyers' have the Chinese are so worked up. They must be painfully aware that they are still many years from wielding an effective carrier force and while the JMSDF may not have a lot of recent experience itself it's Papa-San wrote a large part of the Book.
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« Reply #128 on: November 14, 2013, 06:26:18 AM »
What I love is that the Wasps can carry as many aircraft as almost any other navy's 'Fleet' carriers. And we don't even designate them as carriers.
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Re: Ships!
« Reply #129 on: November 14, 2013, 07:09:12 AM »
Quote from: Staggerwing on November 14, 2013, 04:17:54 AM
^Which is exactly why these new Japanese 'destroyers' have the Chinese are so worked up. They must be painfully aware that they are still many years from wielding an effective carrier force and while the JMSDF may not have a lot of recent experience itself it's Papa-San wrote a large part of the Book.

We learned from the best and haven't forgotten the lesson.

If our lesson is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" the converse for Asia is also true: never get involved with the US Navy in the Pacific.
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Re: Ships!
« Reply #130 on: November 14, 2013, 07:26:21 AM »
Or the Atlantic for that matter.
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Re: Ships!
« Reply #131 on: November 14, 2013, 11:50:24 AM »
needs more Hellcats!

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Re: Ships!
« Reply #132 on: November 27, 2013, 07:07:46 AM »
Nice little infographic for the Zumwalt


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Re: Ships!
« Reply #133 on: November 27, 2013, 09:34:32 AM »
600 feet long? Sheesh.
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« Reply #134 on: November 27, 2013, 09:53:56 AM »
makes one wonder why they just dont call them crusiers.  though I would prefer the return of the term battlecruiser.  8)
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Banzai Cat - There is no "partial credit" in grammar. Like anal sex. It's either in, or it's not.

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