Ships!

[Staggerwing]

Tirpitz!

[Staggerwing]

I didn't watch those cartoons. In the 80's I either was too hung over on Saturday mornings or still out somewhere from the night before.

I was in Germany with no access to English-language TV and I still knew what the hell they were

Well, I did guess correctly. I just didn't watch.

[endfire79]

Tirpitz!  Send in the Tall-Boys

[mirth]

[LongBlade]

Amazing that we carry more ships - the Soviets/Russians are known for making bigger everything.

[GDS_Starfury]

yeah, its amazing what 70 years of actual combat cruises can teach a navy. 

[GDS_Starfury]

chew on this tidbit:

IJN Soryu class fleet carrier:
Displacement:    16,200 tonnes (15,900 long tons) (standard)
                19,100 tonnes (18,800 long tons) (normal)
Length:    227.5 m (746 ft 5 in) (o/a)
Beam:    21.3 m (69 ft 11 in)
Draught:    7.6 m (24 ft 11 in)
18 Mitsubishi A6M Zero, 18 Aichi D3A, 18 Nakajima B5N (Dec. 1941)

modern Izumo class 'helicopter destroyer':
Displacement:    19,500 tonnes empty
                27,000 tons full load
Length:    248.0 m
Beam:    38.0 m
Draft:    7.5 m
Depth:    23.5 m
7 ASW helicopters and 2 SAR helicopters
14 aircraft maximum

and an Essex class carrier:
Displacement:    Design: 27,100 long tons (27,500 t) std, 33,000 long tons (34,000 t) full
Actual: 30,800 long tons (31,300 t) std, 36,380 long tons (36,960 t) full
Length:    820 ft (249.9 m) pp
870 ft (265.2 m) oa (short-bow units); 888 ft (270.7 m) oa (long-bow units)
862 ft (262.7 m) flight deck (short-bow units); 844 ft (257.3 m) flight deck (long-bow units).
Beam:    93 ft (28.3 m) wl; 147.5 ft (45.0 m) max
Draught:    23 ft (7.0 m) std; 27.5 ft (8.4 m) fl
Aircraft carried:    90–100 (Lexington 110 aircraft)

[Staggerwing]

^Which is exactly why these new Japanese 'destroyers' have the Chinese are so worked up. They must be painfully aware that they are still many years from wielding an effective carrier force and while the JMSDF may not have a lot of recent experience itself it's Papa-San wrote a large part of the Book.

[mirth]

What I love is that the Wasps can carry as many aircraft as almost any other navy's 'Fleet' carriers. And we don't even designate them as carriers.

[LongBlade]

^Which is exactly why these new Japanese 'destroyers' have the Chinese are so worked up. They must be painfully aware that they are still many years from wielding an effective carrier force and while the JMSDF may not have a lot of recent experience itself it's Papa-San wrote a large part of the Book.

We learned from the best and haven't forgotten the lesson.

If our lesson is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" the converse for Asia is also true: never get involved with the US Navy in the Pacific.

[mirth]

Or the Atlantic for that matter.

[GDS_Starfury]

needs more Hellcats!

[mirth]

Nice little infographic for the Zumwalt

[LongBlade]

600 feet long? Sheesh.

[GDS_Starfury]

makes one wonder why they just dont call them crusiers.  though I would prefer the return of the term battlecruiser.