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Offline hellfish6

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Re: DCS Discussion
« Reply #1860 on: July 16, 2020, 04:13:39 AM »
Quote from: Cougar_DK on July 16, 2020, 12:34:57 AM
Or you could try "Liberation Dynamic Campaign" out: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=214834

I'll check that out, thanks.
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Re: DCS Discussion
« Reply #1861 on: July 16, 2020, 05:57:43 AM »
Quote from: hellfish6 on July 16, 2020, 04:13:39 AM
Quote from: Cougar_DK on July 16, 2020, 12:34:57 AM
Or you could try "Liberation Dynamic Campaign" out: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=214834

I'll check that out, thanks.

There is a whole list of dynamic campaigns : https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/search/?tags=dynamic%20campaign

I haven't tried them but most have high user ratings.
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Re: DCS Discussion
« Reply #1862 on: July 16, 2020, 11:22:37 AM »
The problem still with most DCS SP missions is that the AI is unable to properly update you on mission progress unless it has been scripted thoroughly by the mission designer.

Even then the wacky AI often breaks a perfectly well thought out script because it decides to do things slightly differently or suddenly delay actions for no clear reason which prevents other triggers to fire in time. Stuff like that.

Also the radio feedback is much less expansive than for example the Falcon 4.0 callouts by AI units.

So overall the SP missions in DCS remain a mixed bag, I agree.
That said, there are several very fun missions available. But IMO the sim shines best when multiple players are involved in a mission.
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Re: DCS Discussion
« Reply #1863 on: July 16, 2020, 01:38:32 PM »
There are a newer version of the Liberation campaign engine here: https://github.com/Khopa/dcs_liberation/releases/
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Re: DCS Discussion
« Reply #1864 on: July 17, 2020, 08:58:53 AM »
Quote from: Yskonyn on July 16, 2020, 11:22:37 AM

Even then the wacky AI often breaks a perfectly well thought out script because it decides to do things slightly differently or suddenly delay actions for no clear reason which prevents other triggers to fire in time. Stuff like that.

Also the radio feedback is much less expansive than for example the Falcon 4.0 callouts by AI units.

Sounds like a perfect emulation of a real-world military :)
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Re: DCS Discussion
« Reply #1865 on: July 17, 2020, 09:08:37 AM »
All of it's short-comings considered, I must be the only guy that is still totally delighted with cold-start, taxi, take-off and general flight/navigation.

I guess I'm easy to please.  <:-)
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Re: DCS Discussion
« Reply #1866 on: July 17, 2020, 09:49:21 AM »
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on July 17, 2020, 09:08:37 AM
All of it's short-comings considered, I must be the only guy that is still totally delighted with cold-start, taxi, take-off and general flight/navigation.

I guess I'm easy to please.  <:-)

In that case you must have pretty moistened loins due to the imminent FS2020 release!  :D

But I agree! Cold start the Hornet or Tomcat and just flying the pattern at the carrier is a thrilling experience!
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Re: DCS Discussion
« Reply #1867 on: July 18, 2020, 06:36:36 AM »
Syria map is up for pre-order. Hopefully will be released with the next open beta.

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Re: DCS Discussion
« Reply #1868 on: August 02, 2020, 05:31:50 PM »
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on July 17, 2020, 09:08:37 AM
All of it's short-comings considered, I must be the only guy that is still totally delighted with cold-start, taxi, take-off and general flight/navigation.

I guess I'm easy to please.  <:-)

Nah....I’m there. Still haven’t played anything other than DCS since I bought the AV-8 in May 2019. My newest love is the Mig-21. Why? Because it’s old, complex and there are LOTS of switches and buttons that have to be manipulated. I love flipping switches. It’s the startup, warm up, taxi and the first few minutes after takeoff when I’m adjusting things that is my favorite.

Combat is fun, sure. But I find myself flying the Mig-21, F-14 and the F-18 exclusively because they are complex and require a lot of button pushing. I learned the F-16 but....well....not enough things to switch.
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Re: DCS Discussion
« Reply #1869 on: August 04, 2020, 01:30:26 PM »
Reinspired to reattack DCS due to the incoming Syria terrain (which holds a near and dear place to my life) I committed to take the time to learn one plane - the Su-25T. I like mud movers, and I like OPFOR. It was surprisingly enjoyable to learn. Mind you, I still don't do cold starts (but I generally know how to now) and I have a much greater appreciation for how pilots are able to multitask. Flying in hot on a target that you have to manually find and place a cursor on while under fire ain't easy. I still miss dynamic missions/campaigns, but I'm slowly coming around to this bolt-counter behemoth.
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Re: DCS Discussion
« Reply #1870 on: August 04, 2020, 03:43:54 PM »
Nice one!  O0
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Re: DCS Discussion
« Reply #1871 on: August 05, 2020, 05:43:33 AM »
Quote from: hellfish6 on August 04, 2020, 01:30:26 PM
Reinspired to reattack DCS due to the incoming Syria terrain (which holds a near and dear place to my life) I committed to take the time to learn one plane - the Su-25T. I like mud movers, and I like OPFOR. It was surprisingly enjoyable to learn. Mind you, I still don't do cold starts (but I generally know how to now) and I have a much greater appreciation for how pilots are able to multitask. Flying in hot on a target that you have to manually find and place a cursor on while under fire ain't easy. I still miss dynamic missions/campaigns, but I'm slowly coming around to this bolt-counter behemoth.

   That's the first plane I flew in DCS.  Bolt-counter behemoth is a great description!
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Re: DCS Discussion
« Reply #1872 on: August 05, 2020, 03:56:35 PM »
Quote from: hellfish6 on August 04, 2020, 01:30:26 PM
Reinspired to reattack DCS due to the incoming Syria terrain (which holds a near and dear place to my life) I committed to take the time to learn one plane - the Su-25T. I like mud movers, and I like OPFOR. It was surprisingly enjoyable to learn. Mind you, I still don't do cold starts (but I generally know how to now) and I have a much greater appreciation for how pilots are able to multitask. Flying in hot on a target that you have to manually find and place a cursor on while under fire ain't easy. I still miss dynamic missions/campaigns, but I'm slowly coming around to this bolt-counter behemoth.

Dynamic campaigns would be awesome. I will say however that I’ve become reasonably competent with the editor. I still have a tough time getting AI planes to bomb/attack things I want them too but getting better. I’ve created my own mini-campaigns. I simply decide how many of what each side has and what their goals are. I set up a mission, play it, count up the losses And look at what happened on the map. Red successesfly takes out an airstrip, the airport is down for 72 hours. Damage a carrier (ship damage is borked and minimal so I use more than 10%) then the carrier sails away and it is unavailable for use. Maybe place 50% of its aircraft on a nearby base. Etc etc

It’s not hard and it’s a lot of fun
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Re: DCS Discussion
« Reply #1873 on: August 07, 2020, 08:38:01 AM »
Dynamic campaign update...sounds interesting.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4446619&postcount=265

Also some discussion of the dynamic campaign here by Nick Grey...


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Re: DCS Discussion
« Reply #1874 on: August 07, 2020, 09:21:44 AM »
Definitely interesting!
Loins moistening even... yum
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