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Digital Gaming => Computer Gaming => Topic started by: Greybriar on July 26, 2014, 10:18:03 AM

Title: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: Greybriar on July 26, 2014, 10:18:03 AM
I noticed that Train Simulator 2014 (http://store.steampowered.com/app/24010/) was 65% off and selling for $13.99 so I decided to check it out. I knew there was a lot of Downloadable Content for the game, but I was surprised to learn that there is $3,732.68 of it!

So I decided not to buy the game.
Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: sandman2575 on July 26, 2014, 10:24:54 AM
So I decided not to buy the game.


Going out on a limb here, but I think that was a wise move.   8)
Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 26, 2014, 10:33:26 AM
So I decided not to buy the game.


Going out on a limb here, but I think that was a wise move.   8)

Well, you certainly don't need to own all the DLC in order to enjoy the base game:)  I own both major train games and I have only stuck with the base stuff and still got some enjoyment out of it.
Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: Arctic Blast on July 26, 2014, 11:07:34 AM
Eh, it's a game for model train enthusiasts. They're going to pick and choose what they want and not buy everything, anyway.
Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: Yskonyn on July 26, 2014, 11:45:02 AM
Yeah. The DLC are effectively addons like we know from the MSFS and MSTS scène for a long time. It just went from being a boxed product to a digital delivery to a steam digital delivery where they use the term DLC for each and every extra for a game, no matter if its just minor stuff or packs we used to call addons or expansion packs.
Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: Staggerwing on July 26, 2014, 11:50:35 AM
I thought I'd check out the Train Sim 2014 link in case I might want to get it and, embarrassingly, I already own the base game :o
Must've gotten it during one of the sales for 'future consideration'...  ::)
Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: Yskonyn on July 26, 2014, 11:57:04 AM
I thought I'd check out the Train Sim 2014 link in case I might want to get it and, embarrassingly, I already own the base game :o
Must've gotten it during one of the sales for 'future consideration'...  ::)

I have it too and I am pretty sure its because I bought Railworks back in the day and the yearly updates are free? I sure didnt buy 2014.
Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: WallysWorld on July 26, 2014, 12:22:11 PM
I have the game and like it a lot. I only buy what DLC I want and you can't really compare the DLC for Train Simulator 2014 to other games like EU IV and CK2 which change the core game play.

Train Sim's DLC is like buying an airport addon or airplane addon for MSFS as Yskonyn noted. Actually I commend the Train Sim developers for allowing so many choices for the player.

And yes, the yearly updates are free as of now. I bought Train Sim 2012 and have been upgraded to the 2014 version for free.
Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: jomni on July 26, 2014, 04:49:46 PM
Dovetail (the devs) is criticized for their add-on pricing.  With some items left buggy and never fixed.

But $3000 worth of DLC is no biggie.  I believe it is also achievable in FSX and many people have no qualms paying for that.

By the way, your Trainsim 2014 will be upgraded (for free) to 2015 soon. 
Upgrades are free, but you won't get a complete base package (routes and trains) compared to those who buy the full 2015 version.
If you want to have the complete new stuff, you have to pay something.
Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: Nefaro on July 26, 2014, 06:36:02 PM
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$3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!

That's insane.

The question being, "is it worth it?"  There will always be some who'd say yes to anything.  But comparing such a number with a large collection of other stuff you could get for the same price puts it into proper perspective.  We could buy approximately 74 nice tabletop games or many many more PC games for that much. 

Granted, you may not need or want all of that, but in order to reach such a total I would think that their DLC is also questionably priced for what you get.  That or there are a huge amount of people cranking out massive amounts of content.
Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 26, 2014, 07:23:55 PM
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$3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!

That's insane.

The question being, "is it worth it?"  There will always be some who'd say yes to anything.  But comparing such a number with a large collection of other stuff you could get for the same price puts it into proper perspective.  We could buy approximately 74 nice tabletop games or many many more PC games for that much. 

Granted, you may not need or want all of that, but in order to reach such a total I would think that their DLC is also questionably priced for what you get.  That or there are a huge amount of people cranking out massive amounts of content.

I guess how is this any different then other games that have a lot of add-ons and are expensive such as the flight sims (MS and X)?  Seems like there are countless add-ons for those products and from what I read on this board, seem pretty costly as well, if not more.  The train game has about 182 add-ons/dlc that makes up that $3,732 cost, which averages to about $20 per add-on/dlc.  They seem to add different content such as train cars and routes, same as the aircraft simulators add more planes, scenery, and other things.  I think putting all this content in one lump sum seems to suggest someone would actually buy all that at one time, which probably is very unlikely, although I am sure some passionate fans of the series might have picked it up over time.

As whether it is questionably priced or valuable, I guess the value and costliness of the content will be different for those that are interested in trains vs planes....just depends on what you like.

Don't get me wrong, I am not enough of a train fanatic to purchase large amounts of this and in fact I only own the DLC that came free with it, but I don't think it is completely crazy when you put it into context.
Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: Staggerwing on July 26, 2014, 07:42:07 PM
After $3,732.68 what's another $199?

http://raildriver.com/products/raildriver.php

(http://raildriver.com/assets/images/raildriver/rd.desktop.home.jpg)
Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: jomni on July 26, 2014, 07:43:30 PM
After $3,732.68 what's another $199?

http://raildriver.com/products/raildriver.php

(http://raildriver.com/assets/images/raildriver/rd.desktop.home.jpg)

Droool!
Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 26, 2014, 07:46:12 PM
Wow, that looks impressive....
Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: Staggerwing on July 26, 2014, 07:51:12 PM
They have 'em for boat sims too.

http://www.shipdriver.com/

(http://www.shipdriver.com/assets/images/shipdriver/ShipDriverImages/SD001-500.jpg)
Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: Staggerwing on July 26, 2014, 08:07:44 PM
^Actually, that one's been D/C'ed. Here's another:

http://www.wilcopub.com/ship-simulation-softwares/ship-console.html

(http://www.shipsim.com/public/files/products/images/full/shipcontrolunit/ShipConsole_2.jpg)

Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: jomni on July 26, 2014, 11:19:42 PM
These babies are for Steel Beasts.   :D
http://www.afvsim.com/
(http://www.afvsim.com/images/M1A1Abrams-img1.jpg)
(http://www.afvsim.com/images/M1A1Abrams-img2.jpg)
(http://www.afvsim.com/images/Leopard-2-Gunners-Control-Handle.jpg)
(http://www.afvsim.com/images/Challenger-2-Gunners-Control-Handle.jpg)
Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: MikeGER on July 27, 2014, 02:40:48 AM
*irony on
...one day there will be a study simulation "Sim You 2016"  with also the information stored about yourself at FB, YT, Goggle, Apple, Amazon, Creditcard Companies. medical records, assortment payback- cards shopping lists, etc  ... in that sim you awake on a weekend do the stuff you do on the weekend including stroll with dog and shopping with wife on favorite routes and eat in favorite restaurant, etc ... for the full 48 hours .... even locking on at the virtual 'virtual Grogheads'... and they will have your Workplace as Monday-DLC  ;D ...benefit in free-cam-3D-view: you can see how fat your (assumed by the sim calculated from the shopping list info in all their databases) ass actually appears to others in the real world ;-)
*irony off     
Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: Staggerwing on July 27, 2014, 05:24:21 AM
These babies are for Steel Beasts.   :D
http://www.afvsim.com/
(http://www.afvsim.com/images/M1A1Abrams-img1.jpg)
(http://www.afvsim.com/images/M1A1Abrams-img2.jpg)
(http://www.afvsim.com/images/Leopard-2-Gunners-Control-Handle.jpg)
(http://www.afvsim.com/images/Challenger-2-Gunners-Control-Handle.jpg)

It doesn't say how much those babies cost. Quite a bit I'm guessing if they are all metal and heavy plastic construction, unlike most 'hobby grade' controllers.

I probably shouldn't mention that the last one is for the Challenger in case JD reads this...  ;D
Title: Re: $3,732.68 worth of DLC for one game!
Post by: jomni on July 27, 2014, 05:40:30 AM
Funny.  That Challenger controller looks like something from Sony.