One of my fav games and my fav of the series.
However - I, whilst I generally win my missions,
always fail a mission on Friendly Casualties. Trouble is - I think they might want 0 casualties in order to pass that parameter, because (as an example) in my latest game, I had
- 142 troops OK
- 8 men killed
- 6 men wounded
- 5 men missing
- 6 armoured vehicles lost (Scimitars and Bradleys)
It just seems really harsh, given the number of troops safe compared to killed/wounded/lost. And it's always the case. No matter how low the casualties are, I have never, to my recollection, passed that parameter.
I still love this game though.
It is a great game. I think I prefer Black Sea somewhat more, but the range of participants in CMSF is hard to beat.
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 06, 2015, 05:37:45 PM
One of my fav games and my fav of the series.
However - I, whilst I generally win my missions, always fail a mission on Friendly Casualties. Trouble is - I think they might want 0 casualties in order to pass that parameter, because (as an example) in my latest game, I had
- 142 troops OK
- 8 men killed
- 6 men wounded
- 5 men missing
- 6 armoured vehicles lost (Scimitars and Bradleys)
It just seems really harsh, given the number of troops safe compared to killed/wounded/lost. And it's always the case. No matter how low the casualties are, I have never, to my recollection, passed that parameter.
I still love this game though.
Maybe you lost too many vehicles. Not men.
Quote from: IronX on November 06, 2015, 06:49:56 PM
It is a great game. I think I prefer Black Sea somewhat more, but the range of participants in CMSF is hard to beat.
It is my fav mainly because of the variety. NATO (Dutch, German), British, Marines. I love the Brits DLC for it.
Quote from: jomni on November 06, 2015, 06:53:57 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on November 06, 2015, 05:37:45 PM
One of my fav games and my fav of the series.
However - I, whilst I generally win my missions, always fail a mission on Friendly Casualties. Trouble is - I think they might want 0 casualties in order to pass that parameter, because (as an example) in my latest game, I had
- 142 troops OK
- 8 men killed
- 6 men wounded
- 5 men missing
- 6 armoured vehicles lost (Scimitars and Bradleys)
It just seems really harsh, given the number of troops safe compared to killed/wounded/lost. And it's always the case. No matter how low the casualties are, I have never, to my recollection, passed that parameter.
I still love this game though.
Maybe you lost too many vehicles. Not men.
Possibly - that was maybe a quarter (or slightly less) of my AFVs.
Still seemed harsh with only 13% losses. 8 men killed is pretty damn good considering you're going into a anti-armour rich environment with troops and AFVs (no tanks).
Just seems harsh given the figures.
Well, war is harsh. And people want to live and the military don't want to keep lobbying for more funds time and again after Gen. JD lost 25% of his assigned vehicles and 13% of his assigned men every time. :D
lol. I guess.
But in game terms, those losses are damn low. It just made me wonder...what exactly is the game looking for with regard to that particular victory parameter.
Was that from a QB or a scenario? Normally my casualties are pretty low in QB (playing on elite level), but if I can engage at range my firepower as non Red is usually pretty hefty, allowing me to suppress and kill comparatively easily. Unfortunately your vehicle loss are high, so maybe that factored into the result you had? Just guessing tough, as your actual losses do seem on the low side as you say. Another thing I wonder - if you are playing QB, is the size of the battle and whether that makes your casualties more victory point sensitive?
The scenario designer can set the acceptable losses as part of the scenario. It's been a long time since I've played but I remember them being as low as 10% and 15%. Now that I'm typing this I can't for the life of me remember how it's set with QBs. I suppose that it's built into map.
lol - vehicle losses are high. Bradleys Warriors and Scimitars - even with their Bar/Slat and Applique armour - are like magnets to RPGs.
It was the 2nd mission in the Brits Module Campaign