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Offline Bardolph

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Re: Gunner, HEAT, PC (new tank game/sim-lite)
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2021, 12:26:34 AM »
New version of the demo out.
https://gunnerheatpcdev.itch.io/gunner-heat-pc-development-test-build

Not sure how much was changed but there is a changelog when you start it up. I skipped that to get to the exploding part.  ;D

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Re: Gunner, HEAT, PC (new tank game/sim-lite)
« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2021, 02:52:41 PM »
Havenít looked too closely at this but at a glance itís not any better than steel beasts.  If they are going sim lite, Iíd focus on game play like immersive campaign system like m1 tank platoon. 

To be frank, after delving into high fidelity flight sims, having to sim lite ground vehicles is laughable.  Thereís nothing in steel beasts that seemed too complicated to learn.  I think it was more accessibility with the drm, pay for updates, and limited sp focused content is what scares people away.  But I see nothing here yet thatís going to get me to give up my dongle....yes I said it..... lol

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Re: Gunner, HEAT, PC (new tank game/sim-lite)
« Reply #32 on: February 15, 2021, 05:29:52 PM »
The GHPC devs have stated from the start that they're not attempting to compete with Steel Beasts. If anything, I think they're going for something between War Thunder (free, but to get anything modern you have to invest time or money and exclusively multiplayer matches) and Steel Beasts (which has an expensive entry point and isn't a game). I think it fits in closer to M1 Tank Platoon 2 than anything else. In concept, anyways.

I love Steel Beasts but it isn't fun made to be fun. GHPC's design philosophy is for it to be fun first.

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Re: Gunner, HEAT, PC (new tank game/sim-lite)
« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2021, 06:24:33 PM »
^ That's a good way of putting it.  Steel Beasts is a good simulation, but I've never played it and found it to be fun.  Like, it's not entertaining in that way.

Different things for different audiences.  I certainly wouldn't mind some streamlining of the details if there is a good game in there.  Of course, that's just old man Toonces talking.  I'm finding it increasingly difficult to want to invest the time in true study sims anymore.  25 years ago?  Sure.  Now, I just would prefer to skip the BS and have fun.

There is a sweet spot for me...probably "sim-lite" or some such term.  Probably a good topic for a future thread...
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Re: Gunner, HEAT, PC (new tank game/sim-lite)
« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2021, 10:38:46 AM »
Yeah, I've been eyeballing the DCS F/A-18 for a few years now, but whenever I'm about to pull the trigger I recall that I don't even have the patience or time to learn any of the aircraft that actually come with the game.

And it's not a simple matter of looking up how to do something in the manual either, because to even get to the point in the manual where you're looking up how to select and lock on an AIM-9, you've had to spend much more time learning what switches to flick to start the engine, how to get in the air, how to navigate, etc. Every time I play DCS I spend more time reading than I do playing - and the tutorials are often TERRIBLE.

Admittedly Steel Beasts isn't nearly that complicated, and to drive and shoot an Abrams you don't really need to do much (and the controls are fairly intuitive) but there is other stuff in games that I like besides crossing an LD at 0545, bounding for 10km, and getting zapped by a T-90 from 5000m because you edged a little too close to the military crest.

Sometimes I just wanna blow shit up, ya know, and not worry about teamkilling or vengeance kamikaze Me-109s (looking at you, War Thunder)

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Re: Gunner, HEAT, PC (new tank game/sim-lite)
« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2021, 02:43:36 PM »
I here you, I learn dcs modules back wards.  I air start or auto start cheat and only learn the weapons and radar just so I can go right to blowing stuff up.  Usually that's enough to get me exited to go back and learn some of the non combat systems as I'm blowing stuff up, then after a couple weeks I fully know the aircraft top to bottom. 

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Re: Gunner, HEAT, PC (new tank game/sim-lite)
« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2021, 10:12:16 AM »
« Last Edit: March 31, 2021, 10:22:26 AM by hellfish6 »

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Re: Gunner, HEAT, PC (new tank game/sim-lite)
« Reply #37 on: March 31, 2021, 04:27:43 PM »
Excellent. Been meaning to try the latest demo, will wait till tomorrow now.

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Re: Gunner, HEAT, PC (new tank game/sim-lite)
« Reply #38 on: May 07, 2021, 03:18:30 PM »
I don't know how to actually use the youtube widget.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=934kE1-L7xY

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Re: Gunner, HEAT, PC (new tank game/sim-lite)
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2021, 03:20:46 PM »
On Youtube, click the Share button to get a shortened link that looks like this:  https://youtu.be/934kE1-L7xY

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Re: Gunner, HEAT, PC (new tank game/sim-lite)
« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2021, 05:24:24 PM »
Cheers, thanks.

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Re: Gunner, HEAT, PC (new tank game/sim-lite)
« Reply #41 on: May 08, 2021, 08:36:16 AM »
That trailer was...intense.
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Re: Gunner, HEAT, PC (new tank game/sim-lite)
« Reply #42 on: May 08, 2021, 05:12:55 PM »
idk, kinda boring looking at green hue thermal sights all the time.
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