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Title: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 12, 2015, 07:20:08 PM
We turn it up to FOUR!  BayonetBrant, Banzai Cat, MetalDog, and Cyrano cut loose on this week's GrogCast

http://grogheads.com/?podcast=the-grogcast-episode-10
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: mirth on May 12, 2015, 07:23:26 PM
Finally    :P
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: MetalDog on May 13, 2015, 05:03:14 AM
Smashing success, Brant!!
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 13, 2015, 05:56:23 AM
t'wern't just me, guys.  B_C's doing the heavy lifting on this O0
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: mirth on May 13, 2015, 07:14:47 AM
Don't try to shift blame.
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: MIGMaster on May 13, 2015, 07:30:35 AM
I'm really enjoying the Grogcasts - great to crank on at work and listen to while pushing paper. At least I now get some value out of this time ;-)
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: mirth on May 13, 2015, 09:01:46 AM
Kobayahsi Naru? Really Brant?


(http://cdn.bleedingcool.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/star-trek-facepalm.jpg)




Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: mirth on May 13, 2015, 09:11:46 AM
Quote
with a bunch of sweaty hobos sitting in a room begging for the Black Lotus.

 :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 13, 2015, 09:28:06 AM
Kobayahsi Naru? Really Brant?

That wasn't me.
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: mirth on May 13, 2015, 09:33:04 AM
Kobayahsi Naru? Really Brant?

That wasn't me.

But you just let it slide?
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 13, 2015, 09:43:50 AM
the podcast was already long enough
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Post by: Cyrano on May 13, 2015, 09:44:09 AM
Sweet fancy mother of...oh, dammit...

I seriously hate listening to myself, but, oh DAMMIT.

I claim inebriation...desperately...

Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: mirth on May 13, 2015, 09:48:39 AM
You did just fine. It was a great episode.
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: mirth on May 13, 2015, 09:49:13 AM
the podcast was already long enough

you do tend to ramble on :P
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: bbmike on May 13, 2015, 01:12:49 PM
Kobayahsi Naru? Really Brant?

To quote Jarhead in another thread: What? Somebody call Martok.  :knuppel2:

Another great podcast guys! I really hope to get to Historicon in July to check out miniature gaming for the first time.
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: Jack Nastyface on May 13, 2015, 06:03:51 PM
Excellent podcast...maybe even one of the best ones yet due to the discussion of doctrine and game mechanics.
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: mirth on May 13, 2015, 06:13:47 PM
Excellent podcast...maybe even one of the best ones yet due to the discussion of doctrine and game mechanics.

+1 It was very groggy. Really enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: PanzersEast on May 13, 2015, 07:34:17 PM
(http://www.canlead.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/kobayashi-maru.jpg)
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 13, 2015, 07:39:00 PM
Excellent podcast...maybe even one of the best ones yet due to the discussion of doctrine and game mechanics.

+1 It was very groggy. Really enjoyed it.

thanks guys - easy to get groggy w/ Cyrano delivering the sermon-on-the-minis
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: PanzersEast on May 13, 2015, 08:28:03 PM
Great podcast, but I think my Grog Card just got pulled after listening to that one....   :))

PE
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: Staggerwing on May 13, 2015, 08:31:29 PM
Great podcast, but I think my Grog Card just got pulled after listening to that on....

PE

A Windows phone?
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: PanzersEast on May 13, 2015, 08:35:18 PM
Great podcast, but I think my Grog Card just got pulled after listening to that on....

PE

A Windows phone?

No, just chopped off the ending to my sentence... I posted that with an iPhone but seems SMF and Safari on the iPhone fight each other.  I have problems viewing and posting on the forums when I am on it.

PE
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: Martok on May 14, 2015, 01:09:34 PM
I'm still listening to this episode, but I'm really enjoying it so far.  I'm finding the discussion of the rise of Magic and other card games, and how that affected the hobby, to be be particularly interesting/compelling for whatever reason (even though I've barely played them).  Maybe because I'm just young enough that they were already becoming part of the scene just as I was starting to get into it back in high school? 

Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 14, 2015, 01:43:05 PM
Damned kids!
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 15, 2015, 12:17:50 PM
I just checked eBay for prices on that complete 3rd edition MtG. Wow.
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: MetalDog on May 15, 2015, 04:54:45 PM
I have a sealed box of Unlimited boosters.  Wonder what that runs...
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 15, 2015, 07:24:58 PM
A new Kia.
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: MetalDog on May 15, 2015, 10:24:39 PM
That's a yay/boo.
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: MetalDog on May 16, 2015, 07:14:30 PM
My mistake.  They are Revised, not Unlimited.
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: bayonetbrant on May 16, 2015, 08:17:49 PM
So, a used Kia.
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: Mr. Bigglesworth on May 16, 2015, 11:54:18 PM
the podcast was already long enough

you do tend to ramble on :P

Ramble, ha. Everyone is paying close attention. The gulf between gaming and real world is fascinating.

Good job Cyrano, the history is very interesting. Glad you were back MD and BB.

Cat, you the man for keeping these going. These are great. In fact im going to listen to that one again.  O0
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: MetalDog on May 17, 2015, 06:20:07 AM
Thanks, Biggs!  You are entirely too good for the ego :)
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Post by: Mr. Bigglesworth on May 17, 2015, 09:12:38 AM
You have to encourage good things. This is good work by good people.

Back when I used to do planning for corporations, I did a lot of research on the most advanced scheduling algorithms. One of the best I found was a description of the system used on the Hubble telescope. The problem they had was various teams would always be vieing for telescope time. Things would get booked far in advance. Needs would change and people would relinquish their time for more important work, knowing the favor would be returned in the future. The point is that the very valuable schedule would get constatly broken with holes, overlaps, all kinds of errors. They adopted a technique called simulated annealing to repair the sequence.

When I look at military plans encoutering the enemy, the same kind of repair is required. You reorganize time and vectors to reoptimize based on the current real world situation. There is a smorgasbord of techniques to use, none of which I see in consumer games.
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: MetalDog on May 17, 2015, 09:37:26 AM
I would think there is only so much you can do with an AI.
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: Mr. Bigglesworth on May 17, 2015, 09:41:15 AM
Especially when all processor cycles are prioritized to eye candy.
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: Cyrano on May 17, 2015, 09:52:34 AM
First, many thanks for your kind words, they're appreciated.

Second, I love this discussion.  One of the things Doc Sterrett and Brant have impressed on me is that few (if any?) wargames commercially available build in the planning that's so much a part of what the real military does.  Some -- notably those used in the War College at Origins -- make it easier than others because of the tools available, &c., but few seem to require it.  The reasons probably run to the marketability of such a sim to a broad audience, but it places the sort of things you describe at an even further remove from what the game can do.

I prepare and keep the calendar for the council I serve and, just this week, I was commenting on how changing circumstances -- we've an election next year -- are punching holes in my precious document.  I think we'll need some real annealing...the simulated stuff may be insufficient.

Best,

Jim
"Cyrano"
:/7)
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: Barthheart on May 17, 2015, 03:03:19 PM
Best one they Guys.  O0

MD we have to meet up and go for beers some day.  :D You too Banzai. I've met the other two and will prolly be drinking with them in a couple of weeks... oops sorry BB.  :coolsmiley:

Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: MetalDog on May 17, 2015, 06:08:27 PM
It is my goal, come Hell or high water, to be at Origins next year.  We'll have some fun :)
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: Martok on May 19, 2015, 03:33:19 AM
Damned kids!

Well I was twenty years ago.  :P 




Good job Cyrano, the history is very interesting. Glad you were back MD and BB.

Seconded.  I generally have the attention span of a gnat, so the fact that I was able to sit down and actually listen to pretty much the whole thing (I admittedly skipped ahead in a couple spots -- mostly when discussion turned to professional military wargaming -- but that was it) is quite the testament to you guys.  Seriously, well done! 




Cat, you the man for keeping these going. These are great. In fact im going to listen to that one again.  O0

Again, seconded.  I know that has to require a fair amount of work & effort -- more so than I can probably guess -- but it's definitely appreciated.  :) 

Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: BanzaiCat on May 19, 2015, 04:59:00 AM
Thanks, guys. It's good to know you're enjoying these.
Title: Re: Discuss GrogCast Episode 10!
Post by: stalintom on January 22, 2016, 03:14:39 AM
SPAM!