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Title: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on March 07, 2016, 07:49:59 PM
Looks like the series continues......sometime in 2016, they will be moving to Italy.

http://www.sniperelite4.com/en

I have yet to finish version 3, going to have to do that...always forget about it:(
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 07, 2016, 08:13:55 PM
I'll be getting it.  I didn't enjoy 3 as much as 2 but I still had fun with it.  Watching skulls deform in slow motion never gets old.

Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Dammit Carl! on March 07, 2016, 08:46:58 PM
Nope.  Slow-mo, high caliber nut shots on hitler's bully-boys is the bee's knees for, like, always and forever.

The zombie one was nice too, but for different reasons.

Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on March 07, 2016, 08:51:51 PM
A refreshing change of pace taking on Eye-Talians.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: mirth on March 07, 2016, 08:55:02 PM
Kinda brutal sniping guys who just want to surrender.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on March 07, 2016, 08:56:57 PM
My Grandpa was good at it. Then again he did it with howitzers, not rifles.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: mirth on March 07, 2016, 08:57:37 PM
That works too.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on March 07, 2016, 09:25:41 PM
He didn't really enjoy himself but he came home.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: mirth on March 07, 2016, 09:37:39 PM
All due respect to your Grandpa,  that's how I feel about most Friday nights.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Richie61 on March 07, 2016, 09:42:48 PM
Heck ya!  :D
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on March 07, 2016, 09:55:27 PM
I think I can count the amount of times I've seen Italians represented in games like Sniper Elite on one finger. Wasn't there a mod for Red Orchestra that inserted Italians? Or was that the mirth Friday night mod?
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: mirth on March 07, 2016, 09:57:11 PM
Star was touting an Italian goat mod.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on March 07, 2016, 09:59:26 PM
No better kind of goat!
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: mirth on March 07, 2016, 10:01:47 PM
Star knows his goat mods.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on March 07, 2016, 10:02:43 PM
I'm waiting for the written review.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: mirth on March 07, 2016, 10:04:37 PM
Goats in the Fog?
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: JasonPratt on March 07, 2016, 10:13:03 PM
So, is this a prequel about how the guy trained in Italy as a sniper in WW1? (In keeping with the tendency of the series to run backward. ;) )
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 07, 2016, 11:53:56 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 07, 2016, 09:55:27 PM
I think I can count the amount of times I've seen Italians represented in games like Sniper Elite on one finger. Wasn't there a mod for Red Orchestra that inserted Italians? Or was that the mirth Friday night mod?

There were a few missions with the Italians as the bad guys in Hidden and Dangerous 2.  There were also a few in Sniper Elite III.

Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on March 08, 2016, 05:13:50 AM
It really doesn't matter who the "bad guys" are. They only serve to be targets anyway. In order for this game to be worth taking a serious look at, they are going to have to modify the bullet mechanics again, add some other layer to it like they have done with the past titles. I'm not sure where else they can go with this, but I'm sure they have some trick up their sleeve.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: JudgeDredd on March 08, 2016, 05:17:18 AM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on March 07, 2016, 11:53:56 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 07, 2016, 09:55:27 PM
I think I can count the amount of times I've seen Italians represented in games like Sniper Elite on one finger. Wasn't there a mod for Red Orchestra that inserted Italians? Or was that the mirth Friday night mod?

There were a few missions with the Italians as the bad guys in Hidden and Dangerous 2.  There were also a few in Sniper Elite III.
now there was a game
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: undercovergeek on March 08, 2016, 05:31:50 AM
i would sacrifice Gus for H + D3
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on March 08, 2016, 11:45:31 AM
You would have to be capable of catching me first.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: undercovergeek on March 08, 2016, 12:48:55 PM
Deploy the midget nets!!
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on March 08, 2016, 01:18:07 PM
You'll need better bait.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: JudgeDredd on March 08, 2016, 01:18:54 PM
I'm the bait - come 'ere baby  >:D
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on March 08, 2016, 01:59:17 PM
Jeebus help me
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: MengJiao on March 09, 2016, 03:10:30 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 07, 2016, 09:55:27 PM
I think I can count the amount of times I've seen Italians represented in games like Sniper Elite on one finger. Wasn't there a mod for Red Orchestra that inserted Italians? Or was that the mirth Friday night mod?

Mare Nostrum.  It had its moments.  I got ridiculously good at the Downtown Tobruk scenario with Germans.  I used to hide in the rubble across the street from the little door the MG42 dudes had to use to get to their shooty spot.  I'd run out and bayonet them and take the MG42 and tour the town.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: MengJiao on March 09, 2016, 03:15:30 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 08, 2016, 01:59:17 PM
Jeebus help me

Don't slip up and shoot Pope Pius II -- he has to survive til Nov 1951 and declare the Big Bang theory to be a Very Good thing!
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on March 09, 2016, 09:07:49 PM
^Shooty spots are important from what I hear. As are horsey men.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: undercovergeek on March 10, 2016, 06:00:35 AM
and you wonder why easy level Attilla owns you  >:D
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: jomni on March 11, 2016, 01:58:03 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on March 10, 2016, 06:00:35 AM
and you wonder why easy level Attilla owns you  >:D

Attila is now cheap. Should I get it?
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 15, 2016, 05:39:10 PM
Looks like release date is Feb. 14, 2017.....a little disappointed not this year, but I guess plenty of other things...
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on September 25, 2016, 07:36:09 AM
Looks like pre orders now available...seems like the xray cam continues to get crazier (in a good way for myself)......although I am sure I'll purchase, not likely a pre order unless I find cheap.....seems like they are getting further away from stealth/sniper by introducing more close combat stuff.....rather play cat and mouse versus run and gun.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/312660/
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Richie61 on September 25, 2016, 12:34:18 PM
Ordered here  :D
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on January 15, 2017, 06:33:06 AM
Only a month a way until release.....keep losing sight of this one.  Never went back and finished v3, just something about it didn't draw me in like v2, the first FPS that I have ever fully completed.  Just wished they would have stuck with pure sniper tactics versus adding all the close combat stuff into the game...love that aspect much more.  Likely little doubt I will pick up at some point since I'll still get some good time with it.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: trek on January 15, 2017, 10:53:20 AM
I agree. SE3 got too much away from the sniper aspect and the North African setting didn't work as well as urban warfare in SE2. I also like the set pieces of the missions in SE 2 much better as well. I uninstalled SE 3 after playing only about two missions.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 10, 2017, 06:45:06 PM
Saw some quick points on it....may not be able to resist:)

Map Size/Depth Is Considerable. We're talking absolutely massive sandboxes with paths left, right, high and low. You can spend easily a half an hour in total just planning your attack on each area, and a good stealthy playthrough of an entire level could easily last more than an hour on your first try, depending on how many optional objectives you do.

It has stellar custom difficulty options. I've made no secret of my love affair with custom difficulty, and that's part of the reason why I like a game like 2014's Thief, because it let me play the game my by making it more difficult. Sniper Elite 4 also boasts this ability, and, while not quite as prolific, still let's me add some more stipulations that otherwise wouldn't be there, such as making me discard unused ammo in a magazine upon reload.

Stealth mechanics aren't just thrown-in. I was definitely worried, especially when watching some other gameplay footage and trailers, that stealth would sort of be an afterthought, while huge, explosive confrontations would take center stage. That simply isn't the case with Sniper Elite 4, certainly not on harder difficulties, at least. Stealth seems to be the premiere mechanic or playstyle in the game, but you definitely have other options.

Side missions galore. Not only are there larger environments, but those environments are expertly populated with engagement opportunities. You have your side missions your tasked with at the start, but you can also come across more side missions through exploration, rewarding you for your troubles.

Tried and true progression system. We've seen this before: every five levels, you get to pick one of two skills. Killing Floor 2 did it. Battleborn does a variation of it. Honestly, though, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. This also helps give you a better reason to pursue challenges (get 100 headshots, e.g.) because it vastly contributes to your level, getting you closer to the next benefit.

Co-op is going to be great. If you play through a level on single player and have a heck of a time, imagine how awesome it would be teaming up. You'll get to feel like Seal Team Six in 1943 Italy. Execute simultaneous headshot to take down multiple people, or divide and conquer, halving the time it takes you to complete a level. The possibilities are endless.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on February 10, 2017, 08:54:08 PM
Is the player fighting against the Italians or the Germans...or both?
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on February 10, 2017, 09:18:05 PM
Quote from: Gusington on February 10, 2017, 08:54:08 PM
Is the player fighting against the Italians or the Germans...or both?

Germans. Would be too easy otherwise.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on February 10, 2017, 09:36:57 PM
^Oh snap.

I was hoping for Italians.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 11, 2017, 09:18:58 AM
weakness strikes again....bought and now pre loading:)

Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on February 11, 2017, 02:39:54 PM
Go get those Italo-Germans!!
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 11, 2017, 02:44:47 PM
I hope the first patch does not remove all the Germans:)
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on February 11, 2017, 02:45:29 PM
Or the Italians. If there are any. Which I hope there are. If you can confirm there are missions against Italian forces I'll buy right now.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on February 11, 2017, 03:03:26 PM
Quote from: Gusington on February 11, 2017, 02:45:29 PM
Or the Italians. If there are any. Which I hope there are. If you can confirm there are missions against Italian forces I'll buy right now.

What the heck do you have against Italians?
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: mirth on February 11, 2017, 03:04:30 PM
Fonzie stole his girl back in the day.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on February 11, 2017, 03:14:07 PM
Before or after he jumped the shark?

Sorry didn't realize that was a comment for me. Anyway...

I just want to play a FPS against Italian forces.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 14, 2017, 06:19:09 PM
Got some time with it tonight....still way early, but generally feels the same as past versions.  Although in first mission, feels like its one man against an entire German army:)  But still loads of fun for me.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on February 14, 2017, 06:21:24 PM
I have never played any in the series but I have #2 and have installed it to see what all the fuss is about. IIRC it takes place during the fall of Berlin, 1945.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 14, 2017, 06:27:51 PM
Quote from: Gusington on February 14, 2017, 06:21:24 PM
I have never played any in the series but I have #2 and have installed it to see what all the fuss is about. IIRC it takes place during the fall of Berlin, 1945.

#2 is the only FPS game I have ever completely finished.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on February 14, 2017, 06:33:59 PM
Whoa. What about it did you like the most?
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 14, 2017, 06:39:22 PM
Quote from: Gusington on February 14, 2017, 06:33:59 PM
Whoa. What about it did you like the most?

It was the first sniper game I ever played.....the xray kill cam was fresh so was kinda cool to watch people die in different ways:)  I just liked the different missions and having to mostly perform sniper duty to achieve your objectives.  Certainly at times it turned into a killfest, but just liked the atmosphere and missions.  However, I never did complete sniper #3, even if it was more wide open...no idea if I'll complete #4, but will certainly get my money's worth.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on February 14, 2017, 06:41:00 PM
^I bet you'd finish if you could go up against the Italian Army.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 14, 2017, 06:54:54 PM
Lots of Italians in Sniper Elite 3 to shoot if you're so inclined, Gus.

Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on February 14, 2017, 06:59:04 PM
^For realz?
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 14, 2017, 07:03:45 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 14, 2017, 06:54:54 PM
Lots of Italians in Sniper Elite 3 to shoot if you're so inclined, Gus.

I never made it completely through, but thought the enemy was the German Afrika Korps?  Certainly up until the point I quit, don't recall any Italians. 
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on February 14, 2017, 07:07:51 PM
^That's what I thought. And that's why I was excited for #4, set in Italy. To fight...Italians.

Fascists, of course.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 14, 2017, 07:13:15 PM
No idea if accurate, but this site does show Italians listed as enemy soldiers....

http://sniperelitegame.wikia.com/wiki/Sniper_Elite_III
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on February 14, 2017, 07:19:48 PM
Hmm the Royal Italian Army is listed too.

Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on February 14, 2017, 07:36:40 PM
This is kinda sorta what I've been looking to read:

http://sniperelitegame.wikia.com/wiki/Royal_Italian_Army

The Royal Italian Army was the Army of the Kingdom of Italy from 1861 to the formation of the Italian Republic in 1946.

They were part of the Axis powers during the Second World War, and Allied with Germany and Japan.

Karl Fairburne had to engage them in combat several times whilst he was in Africa in 1942.

They will feature again in Sniper Elite 4, which is set entirely in Italy.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on February 14, 2017, 08:50:25 PM
I can confirm that Italians are, in fact, in Sniper Elite 3. This is logical since the Italian Army played a fairly large role in the North African campaign.

I have not come across Italians in SE4 yet. 
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 14, 2017, 09:36:46 PM
So far I am liking the openness of the missions....I am still on the first one and have been coming from many different angles.  Still a lot more to do.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on February 14, 2017, 09:38:26 PM
I understand that the Wehrmacht basically controlled Italy until the end of 1943 but to not encounter Italian troops...IN ITALY...makes my brain hurt.

But this is a good thing that the player can encounter them in #3. If I like #2 (should be able to try it out in the next few days) then I will get #3, on sale of course.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 14, 2017, 10:31:33 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on February 14, 2017, 06:19:09 PM
Got some time with it tonight....still way early, but generally feels the same as past versions.  Although in first mission, feels like its one man against an entire German army:)  But still loads of fun for me.

To further this, I am only partly way through the 1st level and I already have 59 kills......my sniper is the most feared soldier in the war!  Lot of different kill methods....quite a few double kills with a single shot, blowing them up by hitting fuel or a truck, dropping a crane on people's heads, new melee animations, etc.....death comes in many ways.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: JasonPratt on February 15, 2017, 09:43:01 AM
Incidentally, I think Medal of Honor: Breakthrough involved fighting at least a few Italians in the latter part of the campaign. (Unlike the other MoHons, that expansion's campaign was extremely focused with lots of continuity between chapters. The first several chapters, set in North Africa, dealt with the Afrika Korps and was set after the Italians had folded I think.)
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: mirth on February 15, 2017, 07:29:20 PM
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Richie61 on February 15, 2017, 11:56:42 PM
 ;D Nice video!!!!  :2funny:
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: JasonPratt on February 16, 2017, 12:23:49 PM
"...which leaves you shooting so many spooky skeletons, you'll think you're playing Wolfenstein the Nazi Zombie Trilogy!"

Man, that was some low hanging fruit they missed by a mile...
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 19, 2017, 07:47:57 AM
Really been hooked on this for last couple of days, brings back memories from Sniper Elite 2.  The openness of the environment allows for many different approaches where you really need to think things through.  The maps have been interesting and I like all the side quests that come with it.  It takes me 1-2 hours per mission and I have attempted to complete all the goals.  I wish I could be a little more stealth but there are SSSOOO many enemies on the map, I find it nearly impossible unless you show great patience and can isolate people.  Just way too tempting to open up on them with guns a blazing:)

So when does Sniper Elite 5 come out:)  Maybe time for the Pacific?
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on February 19, 2017, 10:25:27 AM
GIGGITY.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 20, 2017, 02:35:46 PM
So about 9 hrs in....37% campaign completed, and over 400+ kills......
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on February 20, 2017, 02:37:07 PM
How many missions complete?
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 20, 2017, 02:46:10 PM
Quote from: Gusington on February 20, 2017, 02:37:07 PM
How many missions complete?

I think 4.....and I believe there are a total of 10.  I am averaging around 2 hours per mission since there are side missions to complete as well.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on February 20, 2017, 04:46:51 PM
Not bad.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on March 11, 2017, 07:22:07 AM
Completed the full game today...only the second game I have ever fully completed and the first one was sniper 2.

Was puzzled however...my service record said I was only 72% completed with the campaign, even though I completed all missions and side quests.  There was a total of eight missions and took me around 18 hours.

Bring on Sniper 5!  Maybe Pacific or something like that.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on March 11, 2017, 11:45:26 AM
^Maybe you didn't find a host of different items like wine and gold in Sniper Elite 2?

Did you take on many Italians?
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on March 11, 2017, 12:24:16 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 11, 2017, 11:45:26 AM

Did you take on many Italians?

No idea.....I simply aim and shoot at the bad people, didn't wait around for ID :)
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on March 11, 2017, 12:31:35 PM
 :-[
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Grim.Reaper on March 11, 2017, 01:39:28 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 11, 2017, 12:31:35 PM
:-[

When you have tons of bad guys rushing you, tough to take time:)  By the end of my campaign, I believe my enemy body count was just around 900.  Guessing my soldier should be awarded some kind of medal for single handily winning the war:)

I forgot about the FREE kill hitler mission so I still need to complete that and probably the additional DLC that will eventually come.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on March 11, 2017, 01:46:00 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 11, 2017, 11:45:26 AM
^Maybe you didn't find a host of different items like wine and gold in Sniper Elite 2?

Did you take on many Italians?

Now you have me concerned. You seem utterly obsessed with fighting Italians...what's your beef?
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: mirth on March 11, 2017, 02:02:56 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 11, 2017, 01:46:00 PM
Quote from: Gusington on March 11, 2017, 11:45:26 AM
^Maybe you didn't find a host of different items like wine and gold in Sniper Elite 2?

Did you take on many Italians?

Now you have me concerned. You seem utterly obsessed with fighting Italians...what's your beef?

Gus had a bad experience with a cannoli.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on March 11, 2017, 07:08:48 PM
We've been through this before. I just want to know if the Royal Italian Army is represented as an enemy.

I am just about done with Sniper Elite II and both the Russians and the Germans are portrayed as enemies.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Jarhead0331 on March 12, 2017, 08:08:05 AM
Quote from: Gusington on March 11, 2017, 07:08:48 PM
We've been through this before. I just want to know if the Royal Italian Army is represented as an enemy.

I am just about done with Sniper Elite II and both the Russians and the Germans are portrayed as enemies.

So you say...
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on March 12, 2017, 02:22:15 PM
HONEST!
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: mirth on March 12, 2017, 02:26:01 PM
You really need to open up about the cannoli incident. It will be cathartic for you.
Title: Re: Sniper Elite 4!
Post by: Gusington on March 12, 2017, 02:32:54 PM
SHUT UP AND LEAVE ME ALONE.

<looks at Steam Sniper Elite 4 page with teary eyes>