Oriental Empires -- 4x historical strategy

[Gusington]

From Rock Paper Shotgun -

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/09/26/oriental-empires-review-early-access/#more-400729

[tgb]

I took a break for a couple of days to see if the issue with high maintenance fees would be patched but nothing yet.  Going back to the game this morning I found a couple of serious problems with diplomacy:

1) I'm constantly having my allies try to get me to declare war on a third faction, but there's no way to back out of the diplomacy screen and check out the situation before making a decision. Worse is when one ally wants me to DOW another.

2) I can't find a way to make the same request of MY allies.  You can DOW whoever you're talking to but there's no menu selection to get them to DOW a third party.

Game breakers, both of them.

[Philippe]

The developers seem to be preparing another release and they read the Steam forums.  Did you post your issues anywhere they can see it?  I doubt they come here very often (if at all).

[tgb]

Posted on the Steam forums, but no response yet.

[AchillesLastStand]

Anyone up for some multiplayer when they add it?

[jomni]

Ding dong!

[Boggit]

Lol! Does he bring the Han their wake up call? ;D

[Surtur]

I took a break for a couple of days to see if the issue with high maintenance fees would be patched but nothing yet. Going back to the game this morning I found a couple of serious problems with diplomacy:

1) I'm constantly having my allies try to get me to declare war on a third faction, but there's no way to back out of the diplomacy screen and check out the situation before making a decision. Worse is when one ally wants me to DOW another.

2) I can't find a way to make the same request of MY allies.  You can DOW whoever you're talking to but there's no menu selection to get them to DOW a third party.

Game breakers, both of them.

Hi tgb,

The forum activity is quite overwhelming for us, but we are checking them on a daily basis. We are extremely pleased with the constructive community, your feedback is very valuable. You guys are really taking the time to play and comment in-depth! We want to expand the diplomatic options in the future, though the main priority for the dev is to fix the bugs that were found, especially related to trade. In addition, sieges are getting some love to improve the balance. Patch should be in soon.

Cheers,

Surtur

[tgb]

I took a break for a couple of days to see if the issue with high maintenance fees would be patched but nothing yet. Going back to the game this morning I found a couple of serious problems with diplomacy:

1) I'm constantly having my allies try to get me to declare war on a third faction, but there's no way to back out of the diplomacy screen and check out the situation before making a decision. Worse is when one ally wants me to DOW another.

2) I can't find a way to make the same request of MY allies.  You can DOW whoever you're talking to but there's no menu selection to get them to DOW a third party.

Game breakers, both of them.

Hi tgb,

The forum activity is quite overwhelming for us, but we are checking them on a daily basis. We are extremely pleased with the constructive community, your feedback is very valuable. You guys are really taking the time to play and comment in-depth! We want to expand the diplomatic options in the future, though the main priority for the dev is to fix the bugs that were found, especially related to trade. In addition, sieges are getting some love to improve the balance. Patch should be in soon.

Cheers,

Surtur

Good to hear.  The problem with the forum, as far as I can see, is too much activity.  If a post isn't responded to in a couple of hours it eventually falls to the second page, and might as well have never been there in the first place.

[jomni]

I like the high maintenance fees. Makes you prioritise stuff.  Please do not nerf it to the point that you can permanently have large armies indefinitely campaigning.  The fact that you have to disband them and only raise armies during the campaign is realistic and uniquely "Oriental".   Do not succumb to "Western" ideals. :P

[BanzaiCat]

"Ding dong?"

I  pretty hard at that one.

[W8taminute]

I like the high maintenance fees. Makes you prioritise stuff.  Please do not nerf it to the point that you can permanently have large armies indefinitely campaigning.  The fact that you have to disband them and only raise armies during the campaign is realistic and uniquely "Oriental".   Do not succumb to "Western" ideals. :P

Agreed. 

IMO there is nothing wrong with the economy in OE.  I also don't want the system of army recruitment to change in this game either.  It's a refreshing difference that is not seen in any other game of this type.

The key to getting a strong economy in the early game is in farming.  The more food output a city has the faster it's population grows.  The more people that are living in a city means the more in taxes you collect.  Don't build any buildings until you get a decent income through taxes. 

[W8taminute]

Recommended reading to get you into the mood for playing OE:

Romance of the Three Kingdoms
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Translation:Romance_of_the_Three_Kingdoms/Chapter_1


The Water Margin.  A book that Koei's 'Bandit Kings of Ancient China' game was based on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Margin

[solops]

This game has some neat stuff and enough differences to be interesting in a new way. Though, to be honest, I really don't care if a game has "new" stuff. I think that thinking is a fallacy. I want the old stuff done better and, if the designer has an inspiration, pop in a new improvement. Anyway, OE promises to be quite good, though I think there are rough spots left, as should be expected in any Early Access game. I guess I'll have to go here for my empire building fix because the Civ series has darn sure fallen on its face, though I am not sure about Civ 6 yet.

[Gusington]

Thank you for the reading, W8. I will need more.