War Thunder Thread

Nefaro · February 13, 2015, 02:35:21 PM

I'm still making Realistic Battles Silver Lion profits in the long run. But that requires a number of matches to average out.

I had an interesting RB air forces match flying a 109 recently. It was fun. I'm in the process of uploading it to YT right now. :)

Nefaro · February 13, 2015, 04:10:47 PM

Had some fun in the last half of this match:

W8taminute · February 13, 2015, 06:11:40 PM

So far in my personal analysis of my performance I've noticed that I can make more lions per match if I stick to air arcade battles than if I play realistic air battles. But once one of my good planes gets shot down I refuse to pay 1 to 2 k lions to fix it and must wait 4-5 hours for it to self repair.

The thing is I've now discovered that realistic battles are so much more fun provided you can survive for at least half the session. I just love the team work that is more prevalent in realistic vs. arcade.

I've only played arcade land battles and for me they don't make as much money. It's mostly because I have not disciplined myself to be patient and hunt for prey and instead I just rush in John Rambo style and get nuked. I'm learning though... :)

Nefaro · February 13, 2015, 06:22:42 PM

As an example of a decent personal outcome in the above video, I gained 21k Silver Lions on that battle.

Here is my repair cost after the match was over (which doesn't include the extra cost of ammo belts):

Gonna sound like Eddie Murphy here..... HALF! On Premium. With the highest score on my team which, although not the greatest evah, is higher than a large majority of scores in any single match. If my team had won, I would've made around another 10k so that wouldn't be bad.

It would be very close to being a wash if I had only shot down one aircraft, and a net loss for only getting damages or assists.

Mixed with the pricey costs of upgrades and purchasing a new craft every once in awhile, my Silver Lions always drop to almost nil before I can pick up all the stuff I've unlocked. I still keep coming back, however, because it's enjoyable enough to overcome the occasional frustrating in-game currency sinks. :))

Quote from: W8taminute on February 13, 2015, 06:11:40 PM
So far in my personal analysis of my performance I've noticed that I can make more lions per match if I stick to air arcade battles than if I play realistic air battles. But once one of my good planes gets shot down I refuse to pay 1 to 2 k lions to fix it and must wait 4-5 hours for it to self repair.

The thing is I've now discovered that realistic battles are so much more fun provided you can survive for at least half the session. I just love the team work that is more prevalent in realistic vs. arcade.

I've only played arcade land battles and for me they don't make as much money. It's mostly because I have not disciplined myself to be patient and hunt for prey and instead I just rush in John Rambo style and get nuked. I'm learning though... :)

Arcade battles in the air is okay for short stretches or when I feel like bombing. I can't stand the little aim/pen crosshair in Ground Forces Arcade though. Takes almost no aiming ability. It's RB or Sim only for me in the tanks. Those also have the added bonus of having both aircraft and tanks on the same map if you're into that. O0

W8taminute · February 13, 2015, 07:22:24 PM

Yeah I'm slowly working up the courage to participate in one of those combined arms realistic or sim battles. Just curious about your repair cost. Either you pay the 10k or how long was the free repair time on that bad boy?

Nefaro · February 13, 2015, 09:42:56 PM

Quote from: W8taminute on February 13, 2015, 07:22:24 PM
Yeah I'm slowly working up the courage to participate in one of those combined arms realistic or sim battles. Just curious about your repair cost. Either you pay the 10k or how long was the free repair time on that bad boy?

Keep in mind that crew probably has around 19/50 Repair skill (and up to Tier 3) but I don't think that really makes much of a difference anyway. It used to make more of a difference but they must've changed those skills.. or they don't work.

The time was over 10 hours.

W8taminute · February 14, 2015, 09:38:19 AM

Interesting. Compare your Tier 3 plane results to my Tier 2 plane. My FW 190 A-1 which is a tier 2 plane and the one I'm currently paying the most attention to takes 4 hours to repair or pay 1400 lions. My crew repair rate is 11/50 and their repair rank is up to Tier 3.

Nefaro · February 15, 2015, 12:13:24 PM

Quote from: W8taminute on February 14, 2015, 09:38:19 AM
Interesting. Compare your Tier 3 plane results to my Tier 2 plane. My FW 190 A-1 which is a tier 2 plane and the one I'm currently paying the most attention to takes 4 hours to repair or pay 1400 lions. My crew repair rate is 11/50 and their repair rank is up to Tier 3.

Yeah, it starts going up quickly in Tier 3 and onward.

What's even more questionable is that some types of planes, with the same Tier and battle rating, have very different repair costs. Sometimes the same aircraft model of two different countries have different repair costs.

bobarossa · February 15, 2015, 09:59:13 PM

The pop-up in the research tree says your 109-G2/Trop should have a max repair cost of 1290. I guess I shouldn't rely on the game data. I'm just now finishing up the Tier II tanks and discovering how quickly costs can rise. Of course I lucked into a 100,000 trophy yesterday. Got the joystick setup for flying airplanes but am doing horrible. Slowing figuring it out.

Nefaro · February 16, 2015, 12:02:59 PM

Quote from: bobarossa on February 15, 2015, 09:59:13 PM
The pop-up in the research tree says your 109-G2/Trop should have a max repair cost of 1290. I guess I shouldn't rely on the game data.

Hrmm..

That may indicate that repair costs increase as your User level does. Mine is level 33 (you can see at the top left of the screen). Surely they don't make repairs continually increase the more you play? That would be just stupid. >:(

Related.. I also think the Silver Lions increase the higher your defeated target's BR and/or Tier is. Shaky theory though.

bobarossa · February 16, 2015, 12:52:52 PM

I'm getting close to advancing to level 10. I'll check to see if the repair cost rises.

Dread Rlyeh · February 16, 2015, 03:05:59 PM

The repair costs increase based on what modules you have unlocked, if you hover over one it will say 'repair cost + XXX'. Are you factoring in that?

edit: unlocked and equipped to be technical about it

bobarossa · February 16, 2015, 03:28:56 PM

Quote from: Dread Rlyeh on February 16, 2015, 03:05:59 PM
The repair costs increase based on what modules you have unlocked, if you hover over one it will say 'repair cost + XXX'. Are you factoring in that?

edit: unlocked and equipped to be technical about it

No, I wasn't. I just added them up and they're about 480 (~1800 total) which still leaves us well short of the 10k that Nefaro experienced. I'll have to monitor it on something I have unlocked to get a more accurate read. I'll also try playing and leaving after losing only one vehicle and check the repair cost to see if I'm experiencing the same cost inflation.

endfire79 · February 16, 2015, 03:32:24 PM

By the time I get back in this game, I'll be facing F-15's

Dread Rlyeh · February 16, 2015, 04:16:47 PM

Quote from: bobarossa on February 16, 2015, 03:28:56 PM
Quote from: Dread Rlyeh on February 16, 2015, 03:05:59 PM
The repair costs increase based on what modules you have unlocked, if you hover over one it will say 'repair cost + XXX'. Are you factoring in that?

edit: unlocked and equipped to be technical about it
No, I wasn't. I just added them up and they're about 480 (~1800 total) which still leaves us well short of the 10k that Nefaro experienced. I'll have to monitor it on something I have unlocked to get a more accurate read. I'll also try playing and leaving after losing only one vehicle and check the repair cost to see if I'm experiencing the same cost inflation.

yeah nm, that might shed some light on the variation between what is seen on the research screen (I don't know if that is a stock plane or 100% modules unlocked) and in hanger, but it doesn't explain the 10k. I doubt it is based on level, maybe some weird bug or something. 10k is crazy for that tier aircraft.