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Title: (FINISHED) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: al_infierno on January 20, 2021, 08:19:12 PM
Opening up early discussions for a third Grogspocalypse game.  This is a Late Ages game hosted on the Discord channel Clockwork Hounds.

Per TMNT's suggestion in the other thread we'll be using Clockwork Hounds on Discord to host the server since it's quite a bit easier than Llamaserver.  This requires downloading Discord and creating a free Discord account, which shouldn't be any trouble, but if anyone has objections we're open to discussion.

What did you guys think of using MapNuke versus the vanilla mapgen?  I tend to like the more "complex" landmasses that vanilla creates but it lends itself to unbalanced situations.  I'm open for any option, including using a pre-made maps again.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: TheMeInTeam on January 20, 2021, 08:27:25 PM
I've done a lot of mapnuke lately, so wouldn't mind a change.  Either a workshop map or a random one would be interesting as a changeup.

I've now gone into lategame in LA in addition to the other eras and am happy with any age.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Yskonyn on January 21, 2021, 05:55:29 AM
Have fun with this one people.
I cannot commit, unfortunately.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: W8taminute on January 21, 2021, 09:03:47 AM
I might be interested in joining another game.  Don't know if I can commit time wise.  If I can I have no preference to age or nation. 
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Myrmidon on January 21, 2021, 09:14:03 AM
Count me in.  No preferences on age or map type, although the MapNukes are recognized as the most balanced.  But I've played some fun games on the random type, just be prepared for some salt. 

I'll throw in another plug for the fantastic DE (Dominion's Enhanced) mod.  But I'm fine with vanilla too. 

 
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: ArizonaTank on January 21, 2021, 10:50:57 AM
What is the game pace?  Time for turn-around?
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Myrmidon on January 21, 2021, 11:01:32 AM
What is the game pace?  Time for turn-around?


We've been pretty flexible.  At the beginning, when turn times are super quick, we may have been doing one a day(?)  But on average, at least until towards the end, we were shooting for once every couple of days or so.  RL stuff happens though, and everyone is pretty chill about it. 
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Tanaka on January 22, 2021, 11:05:25 PM
Happy to join again and create more chaos  ;D
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Ajidica on January 23, 2021, 10:35:32 AM
If you need someone, let me know; otherwise I'm probably going to take a break from Dominions. The length to which I was dragging out turn submission was sort of disrespectful to everyone else in the game.

If my preference matters, I would be interested in Middle Age game. At least with the default mapgen LA indies can be really volatile. One person might have a capring of pathetic indies, the next might be full of xbows and knights. If other mapgens have more balanced indies, LA might be fun to try.
Nevermind. Indies seem to have been generally increased across the board. Seeing a lot more heavy cav and knight indies in MA, along with them being generally stronger.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: al_infierno on January 23, 2021, 11:29:57 AM
I didn't mind the delays between turns.  You've been a solid player in both games and I'd be glad to have you in this one as well.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Tanaka on February 15, 2021, 02:05:26 PM
Any decisions made? I'm happy with any map or age...Just let me know.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: al_infierno on March 05, 2021, 03:03:26 AM
Sorry, been sleeping on this one.  How about another Middle Age game?  We can use the vanilla mapgen and remake it if we get a crappy map.  Should we use the Discord hosting this time around?
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Tanaka on March 05, 2021, 03:08:57 AM
Sorry, been sleeping on this one.  How about another Middle Age game?  We can use the vanilla mapgen and remake it if we get a crappy map.  Should we use the Discord hosting this time around?

How about a different age this go around? And I have a map suggestion because it looks amazing:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/722060/discussions/1/4198997399072057988/
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: al_infierno on March 05, 2021, 03:15:16 AM
We did Early Age last game, didn't we?  I'd be down for Late Age if that's what you're suggesting, but I'm gonna get my ass kicked for sure.  :buck2:
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: TheMeInTeam on March 05, 2021, 12:23:35 PM
I'm down for late age also.  For those unfamiliar, LA Lemuria is dogpile bait similar to MA Ermor/Sceleria.  LA R'lyeh is underwater popkill with aquatic freespawn that costs maintenance (...).  I won't say not to pick them, but want everyone to know what they're getting into if they do select one of those.

Everyone else is mostly fine, though as usual some nations are stronger and/or easier to play than others.  For example LA Ctis is the worst variant of Ctis, while LA Atlantis is easily its best iteration and one of the better nations in LA.  Also, if you're not yet familiar with communions, get ready.  Almost every nation in LA wants to make at least some use, either through astral or blood.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Tanaka on March 05, 2021, 03:41:40 PM
We did Early Age last game, didn't we?  I'd be down for Late Age if that's what you're suggesting, but I'm gonna get my ass kicked for sure.  :buck2:

I'm down for Late Age as well! Would like to try LA Phlegra. What do you guys think of that map? It is the best looking one I have seen so far!
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Tanaka on March 05, 2021, 10:06:42 PM
I'm down for late age also.  For those unfamiliar, LA Lemuria is dogpile bait similar to MA Ermor/Sceleria.  LA R'lyeh is underwater popkill with aquatic freespawn that costs maintenance (...).  I won't say not to pick them, but want everyone to know what they're getting into if they do select one of those.

Everyone else is mostly fine, though as usual some nations are stronger and/or easier to play than others.  For example LA Ctis is the worst variant of Ctis, while LA Atlantis is easily its best iteration and one of the better nations in LA.  Also, if you're not yet familiar with communions, get ready.  Almost every nation in LA wants to make at least some use, either through astral or blood.

You would think Early Age would be more about communions since it is more about magic and LA is more about armor and warfare...
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: al_infierno on March 05, 2021, 10:15:44 PM
^ Part of the lore is that magic is better understood and more easily controlled in the later ages, though its power has dwindled relative to the early ages.

I haven't checked out the map, but I'd be down to try it out.  I'll need to look at the LA nations list to make a choice.  I'm tempted to try LA C'Tis but as TMNT pointed out it's not all that good compared to their earlier versions.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: TheMeInTeam on March 06, 2021, 08:12:08 AM
^ That's my opinion, it might not be right of course.  Though it seems Lucid and quite a few others share it.

Their problem is that unlike something like Sceleria, they can't just recruit their reanimators, and their national magic is very limited other than death.  N1, E1, and the very rare F2 are your other paths.  If opponent can answer skeletons/banefire...what else do you have?

Contrast this with LA Pangaea, which is considered a middle of the pack nation in LA.  They can break into death later using nature (reverse is harder).  However, out the box they can cast high nature, earth, air, water, and astral magic without needing pretender/summons/indies whatsoever.  So while Ctis is constrained to horde of skeletons/rigor mortis/darkness/banefire...Pangaea can cast mass resistances, army of gold/lead, steal enemy units, put fog warriors/mass flight on everything, put mass regen/relief on everything, kill any SC without huge MR at tech 5 rather than 8, and later on pile out elementals.  They also get A2 and B3 from heroes.  Ctis gets...another D3 mage from heroes.

If you don't have high paths, you need to summon mages with high paths or use communions/sabbaths.  Even Ragha, which is widely regarded as dangerous mostly due to its expensive + powerful sacred units in heat scales, can still use blood to sabbath up and do not only big death, but also air/fire/blood itself.  And if they break into a cold province they can pick up astral/water as well. 

And yeah all ages have communions, but LA depends on them the most because for most nations base paths are lower.  LA definitely has better troops and stronger indies too.  In EA national mages can often hold a booster and just cast big spells.  In that regard LA C'tis is kind of like an EA nation, but not a particularly good one.  MA C'tis is best C'tis, but even if I had to play against LA nations, I'd rather have the EA version than LA.

Edit: We don't have nearly enough players for a > 200 province map right now.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: solops on March 06, 2021, 07:09:26 PM
I am not up for a game right now. I did fire up Dom 5 just to play a bit and.... I have completely forgotten how to play. Apparently TW Attila, Civ4 and Shadow Empires have scrubbed my brain of all things Dom5. This is both embarrassing and frightening....
I am back to reading the beginners "How To" guides.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Myrmidon on March 07, 2021, 08:43:45 AM
I'd be up for a LA game.  I'll put in yet another plug for Dominions Enhanced Mod, as it fixes some of the inherent weaknesses of some nations, many of them in the LA. 

Count me in.  I'll pick a nation once we get an idea as to what's going on. 
We did Early Age last game, didn't we?  I'd be down for Late Age if that's what you're suggesting, but I'm gonna get my ass kicked for sure.  :buck2:

I'm down for Late Age as well! Would like to try LA Phlegra. What do you guys think of that map? It is the best looking one I have seen so far!

The map does look incredible!

LA Phlegra is a great nation, but it's not for beginners.  There's a lot of complicated mechanics going on with it.  You can give it a go, just be sure to familiarize yourself with it first!
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Tanaka on March 07, 2021, 01:56:12 PM
I'd be up for a LA game.  I'll put in yet another plug for Dominions Enhanced Mod, as it fixes some of the inherent weaknesses of some nations, many of them in the LA. 

Count me in.  I'll pick a nation once we get an idea as to what's going on. 
We did Early Age last game, didn't we?  I'd be down for Late Age if that's what you're suggesting, but I'm gonna get my ass kicked for sure.  :buck2:

I'm down for Late Age as well! Would like to try LA Phlegra. What do you guys think of that map? It is the best looking one I have seen so far!

The map does look incredible!

LA Phlegra is a great nation, but it's not for beginners.  There's a lot of complicated mechanics going on with it.  You can give it a go, just be sure to familiarize yourself with it first!

Yeah I've been practicing with them in single player on this beautiful map. Really enjoying it. Sounds like there are only four of us so far? Should we recruit for more on the main forum?
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: al_infierno on April 11, 2021, 04:23:47 PM
All right, let's give this one another honest go.  :buck2:

So looks like we'll be doing a Late Ages game.  If anyone else is interested in joining, please drop a line or send a PM.  We have four confirmed players so far and two "maybes".  I've decided to tentatively go with Pangaea, but I might change my pick before we lock all our choices in.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Ajidica on April 11, 2021, 04:34:49 PM
I'd be interested. Put me down for LA Man right now, though I need to look at the other LA options.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Myrmidon on April 11, 2021, 04:45:28 PM
Sign me up for sure.  Slap me down as LA Arco for now. 
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: TheMeInTeam on April 11, 2021, 05:07:31 PM
I'm still down, I'll pick Patala for now.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: al_infierno on April 11, 2021, 06:42:23 PM
All right, we've got five people locked in and still waiting to hear from W8 if he wants to stay in.  I went ahead and messaged MetalDog to see if he wants in, too.



If any lurkers are reading this, feel free to throw your hat in the ring!  O0
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: W8taminute on April 12, 2021, 11:47:52 AM
Hi guys,

Just noticed this update in my unread threads list.  I think I'll sit this one out as I'm a bit burnt out in the multiplayer scene.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: al_infierno on April 12, 2021, 12:51:56 PM
No worries W8 O0
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: TheMeInTeam on April 17, 2021, 09:02:25 PM
If we don't get more people we can always run another Biddyn game or something.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: al_infierno on April 17, 2021, 09:23:52 PM
Biddyn would be fine by me, but I also wouldn't mind trying a vanilla mapgen map since it tailors the number of regions to the number of players.  We could use fixed starts and agree on a generated map like we did last time.  If that's too much trouble though, Biddyn is fine by me.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Myrmidon on April 18, 2021, 07:08:15 AM
I'm good either way on the map.  Mapnuke did release an update that upgraded the textures, so it's a little easier on the eyes, but I'm fine with a rando genned map too.

Just throwing out a feeler here.... if I chose to give Lemuria a try, would that tick off anyone? I'll avoid it if it does, but I'd love to give it a go.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: TheMeInTeam on April 18, 2021, 01:32:24 PM
Lemuria wouldn't anger me, but I'd still definitely coalition you at first opportunity and encourage every other player to do so as well :).  Like Sceleria, it's one of those nations that just runs away too easily and needs to stop existing sooner than later for any other player to have a chance.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Myrmidon on April 18, 2021, 04:02:38 PM
Lemuria wouldn't anger me, but I'd still definitely coalition you at first opportunity and encourage every other player to do so as well :).  Like Sceleria, it's one of those nations that just runs away too easily and needs to stop existing sooner than later for any other player to have a chance.

I totally understand, and yeah, that's what a Lemuria player is signing up for.  Unlike my first Sceleria game, I've got a lot more games under my hat now, and I've got enough good games going that I won't be butt hurt like last time if I get dog-piled. 

Plus, it would be a nice contrast with my EA Arco game, where I just turtled and turtled....
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Tanaka on April 19, 2021, 11:16:31 PM
Just now seeing this again. Message me if I miss anything important. Fine with either of those map choices as well...
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: al_infierno on April 21, 2021, 03:53:17 PM
I think we were leaning towards using Clockwork Hounds on Discord to host the server this time since it's a bit more convenient than Llamaserver.  I've PMed everyone with details about joining.  I went with Biddyn for now, but if someone wants to play a water nation we can switch up the map setting - nothing is set in stone until the game starts.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: al_infierno on April 21, 2021, 09:17:18 PM
I got a 6th player off Discord to fill out our game a bit.  He's a pretty solid player, but not a member here so any comms with him will have to be through Discord.  His username on Discord is lich#6666
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Myrmidon on April 22, 2021, 03:32:59 PM
I got a 6th player off Discord to fill out our game a bit.  He's a pretty solid player, but not a member here so any comms with him will have to be through Discord.  His username on Discord is lich#6666

Sounds like he should be playing Lemuria....  ;D
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: al_infierno on April 22, 2021, 03:59:09 PM
 :2funny:
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Tanaka on April 23, 2021, 02:15:20 AM
Here's the latest list of players and the latest nations people expressed interest in playing.  This is not final and anyone is free to switch nations up until we start the game.

al_infierno: Pangaea
TheMeInTeam: Caelum
Myrmidon: Lemuria
Tanaka: Phlegra
Ajidica: Man

I think we were leaning towards using Clockwork Hounds on Discord to host the server this time since it's a bit more convenient than Llamaserver.  I've PMed everyone with details about joining.  I went with Biddyn for now, but if someone wants to play a water nation we can switch up the map setting - nothing is set in stone until the game starts.

Thanks for setting this all up. Submitted!
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Ajidica on April 23, 2021, 09:08:55 PM
Oooff, looks like the poor Humans of Man will be on their lonesome own against the monstrosities of the world!

I'm out most of tomorrow (Saturday) so I'll get my pretender submitted Sunday.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Myrmidon on April 24, 2021, 10:27:38 AM
Oooff, looks like the poor Humans of Man will be on their lonesome own against the monstrosities of the world!

I'm out most of tomorrow (Saturday) so I'll get my pretender submitted Sunday.

Lemuria is 100% human too.   Just been dead for awhile, that's all....
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: Ajidica on April 25, 2021, 09:20:45 PM
Getting a pretender down has been a bit trickier for me than I intended, especially as I underestimated how tricky LA indies can be. I'm not sure how many people have submitted a pretender yet, so if it is okay with everyone I'd like to take another day or two to figure out scales/bless/chassis/expansion. Running 6 players on Biddyn might get a bit tighter than usual, so I want to make sure I get expansion confident.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: al_infierno on April 25, 2021, 09:47:40 PM
No problem, that's fine.  We can also change the map to Peliwyr or a mapgen if we want a bit more room.
Title: Re: (OPEN) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: al_infierno on April 26, 2021, 02:32:47 PM
We have another person from Discord interested in joining (Tien Chi), so I decided to switch over to the random mapgen instead of Biddyn.  We're at 7 players now!

Final player list:

al_infierno: Pangaea
TheMeInTeam: Caelum
Myrmidon: Lemuria
Tanaka: Phlegra
Ajidica: Man
Lich (discord): Agartha
rudboi (discord): Tien Chi
Title: Re: (IN PROGRESS) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: al_infierno on April 27, 2021, 10:22:30 PM
We're a-go!  Good luck everyone!   :knuppel2:
Title: Re: (IN PROGRESS) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: solops on May 16, 2021, 10:03:08 PM
Heh heh heh...
Post some pics and anecdotes. Make it a spectator sport.
Title: Re: (FINISHED) King Grogspocalypse III: Wars of Religion [Dominions 5]
Post by: al_infierno on September 12, 2021, 09:48:06 PM
This one wrapped up in a draw between myself and TMIT.  My Barbarossa-esque advance on his home turf went tits up rather quickly, and his advanced stopped when I remembered I had access to an Astral anti-undead spell.  We ended up locked in a stalemate, with Tien Chi and Man on the sidelines.  TC was the kingmaker at this point, but the Discord user who joined us staled a few turns and their progress petered off.  This world will now be governed by a Pantokrator-By-Committee between the great birds of Caelum and the great forest people of Pangaea.  With the humans of Man and Tien Chi providing an advisory/ceremonial role.   O:-)