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Grogheads AAR - Kiev '43
« on: May 31, 2021, 09:53:35 AM »
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Re: Grogheads AAR - Kiev '43
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2021, 10:33:24 AM »
Thanks for the AAR Boggit!

Out of curiosity, what would you try as the Germans in this scenario? Do you think the AI did anything wrong, or is their situation just hopeless if the Soviets keep pushing with overwhelming numbers? Did weather make the difference for you?
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Re: Grogheads AAR - Kiev '43
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2021, 12:50:23 PM »
Thanks for the AAR Boggit!
My pleasure. I hope you enjoyed it. O0

Out of curiosity, what would you try as the Germans in this scenario?
I'd broadly keep to their historical strategy which was to counterattack with their armoured reinforcements. The Russian infantry units have negligible AT weapons, but are dangerous to disrupted tanks in the assault. Target any AT guns in travel mode with artillery and airstrikes, and don't allow yourself to get trapped in an attrition battle with flanking Russian units. Your armour is mobile and although you also suffer from the soft ground, you don't have the problem of the big traffic jams the Russians have. Oh, and don't forget to target the over stacked Russian forces for extra kills.

Do you think the AI did anything wrong, or is their situation just hopeless if the Soviets keep pushing with overwhelming numbers?
The AI did put infantry in the front line in travel mode a few times, which got punished by my artillery and aviation. They would have been better to tactically withdraw before taking that risk. Also the attack of 2SS Das Reich was a little too late to make a difference. They got side tracked and at one point were close to wiping out the bridgehead on my far left. They did frustrate the advance to the left on my main push, but like I say were really too late against the main push to make the difference as happened in real life.

The situation is not hopeless though if the Russians can be contained in the bridgehead for most of the game. Keeping a mobile reserve is vital, but you need to make sure it doesn't get bogged down too long and get isolated. It needs to stay relatively mobile as a fire brigade. Had I not got a flanking break through with enough time to exploit, I think I'd have struggled to get the necessary VP's. I also noted that after the Germans were pushed back from their initial positions, they started digging in again on the hills behind their start lines and these were hard to push back until I managed to isolate them.

Did weather make the difference for you?
Yes. It's a pain as apart from tanks, most units couldn't manage more than one or two hexes a turn. They also tended to bunch up and make wonderful targets for the German artillery.
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Re: Grogheads AAR - Kiev '43
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2021, 08:18:12 PM »
Thanks for the extra notes!  :bd:
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Dawn of Armageddon -- a narrative AAR for Dawn of War: Soulstorm: Ultimate Apocalypse: The Hunt Begins: Insert Joke Here!

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Re: Grogheads AAR - Kiev '43
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2021, 08:43:40 PM »
Yes, that was a great AAR.  O0
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