Lock'n Load's second entry to their revived World at War series is nearing its completion it seems:
https://gamefound.com/projects/lnlp/blood-and-fury
While I've not played Storming the Gap nearly as much as I would have liked, I guess this is another of those "take my money please" games I just can't pass.
:dreamer:
And it's on!
Managed to squeeze in among one of the first 100 backers for the base game Early Bird Special. Added the Operation Gauntlet for crossing the Weser as well.
(https://imgcdn.gamefound.com/productimage/projects/1991/8ab78914-406a-4c8e-91b6-5cc5b5cd51fb.png)
And while typing this, we're already at 104 backers and the first strectch goal opened in a bit I am sure.
---aaand:
FUNDED in fifteen minutes :bd:
This is it for me, I believe. Until they launch the Arab-Israeli Wars edition, of course :nerd: :bd:
how is russian turret tossing handled?
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on July 25, 2022, 01:56:42 PM
how is russian turret tossing handled?
That's stretch goal #2, Flight Stands. Goal unlocked, too. How you use them is once you score a one step hit to a tank having ammunition stowage inside the turret, you put it to Flight Stand. Second hit, you remove it from the game, as the full platoon is considered completely evaporated.
Their picture erroneously shows a helo at a Flight Stand. Hope they fix their images soon:
(https://imgcdn.gamefound.com/productimage/projects/1991/186f1870-c7ac-461b-be2a-42b352d35717.png)
Little out of my comfort zone for boardgames...although tempted. Would only play solo and not if it will be too complicated for that.
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on July 25, 2022, 04:46:26 PM
Little out of my comfort zone for boardgames...although tempted. Would only play solo and not if it will be too complicated for that.
There is a solo assistant included in the game. As for complexity, well that depends I guess. While they've added to original WaW ruleset the basic game remains quite simple and fast. If you start with a basic scenario with basic units, it is not that complex at all imho.
Add new unit types and capabilties it gets more and more complex, of course, but you should be able to pick and choose your scenarios in a manner it evolves in a way you can keep up.
As a bonus the rules and scenarios can be ported to minuatures play, there's a conversion table in a form of a unit card to each unit type.
Here's a rather good discussion and comparison to other games from BGG: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/2411651/world-war-85-storming-gap-all-over-again
As a personal comment I quite like the system for the fictious WW3 setting, while the same rule set for historical battles in WW2 under the Nations at War series doesn't cut it as much for me. Go figure.
Quote from: Crossroads on July 26, 2022, 02:57:03 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on July 25, 2022, 04:46:26 PM
Little out of my comfort zone for boardgames...although tempted. Would only play solo and not if it will be too complicated for that.
There is a solo assistant included in the game. As for complexity, well that depends I guess. While they've added to original WaW ruleset the basic game remains quite simple and fast. If you start with a basic scenario with basic units, it is not that complex at all imho.
Add new unit types and capabilties it gets more and more complex, of course, but you should be able to pick and choose your scenarios in a manner it evolves in a way you can keep up.
As a bonus the rules and scenarios can be ported to minuatures play, there's a conversion table in a form of a unit card to each unit type.
Here's a rather good discussion and comparison to other games from BGG: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/2411651/world-war-85-storming-gap-all-over-again
As a personal comment I quite like the system for the fictious WW3 setting, while the same rule set for historical battles in WW2 under the Nations at War series doesn't cut it as much for me. Go figure.
Thanks for the info. Just saw they are releasing a PC version of this series, think I will give that a shot first since likely would minimize the complexity and cost:)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1960300/World_At_War_85_Digital_Core_Game/
Their WW2 Nations at War early access game is there as well, and has been for a couple of years. Check it out here: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1226000/Nations_At_War_Digital_Core_Game/
I bought it out at the time it game out, built on some java platform or something like that iirc. They've since made a decision apparently (and a good one at that) to move the game to Unity engine, it is more slick now. Hopefully both games come out soon.
Quote from: Crossroads on July 26, 2022, 09:17:48 AM
Their WW2 Nations at War early access game is there as well, and has been for a couple of years. Check it out here: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1226000/Nations_At_War_Digital_Core_Game/
I bought it out at the time it game out, built on some java platform or something like that iirc. They've since made a decision apparently (and a good one at that) to move the game to Unity engine, it is more slick now. Hopefully both games come out soon.
Thanks, yep I own all their PC games. Haven't played that game much since seemed slow progress but will try again somedays.
Is "orc" the new jap, kraut, nip etc? Just curious as I've been seeing it thrown around a lot lately.
^Yes, slang for Russian.
Russian military, to be precise. I modified my post to reflect the fact this is not a casual comment but a very :nerd: serious rule amendment proposal, where the jack-in-the-box turrets do not reflect armies, but technical features.
Quoteonce you score a one step hit to a tank having ammunition stowage inside the turret, ...
Sorry.
As I went all-in on the first module, I couldn't pass on this one.
The first one was a crazy good deal with all the stuff you got. I can remember one of the devs stating that it was a pretty bad deal for themselves at the end and they wouldn't go overboard like that again.
This second project seems a lot more constrained indeed. :)
Quote from: Yskonyn on July 27, 2022, 12:04:34 PM
As I went all-in on the first module, I couldn't pass on this one.
The first one was a crazy good deal with all the stuff you got. I can remember one of the devs stating that it was a pretty bad deal for themselves at the end and they wouldn't go overboard like that again.
This second project seems a lot more constrained indeed. :)
Indeed, I felt almost embarrassed to receive all those goodies for a few tenners. That said, this one is not too shabby either with spiral bound core rules and companion books as stretch goals. From their store those two (for StG) are almost a C note alone.
Let us see if they indeed decide to add a few stretch goals more as they've been publicly contemplating. Can't think of anything I'd actually want, this is a pretty good deal as it is.
I'd like winter maps to be added, just like in Storming the Gap.
Also, a monter sized campaign where you can use both products would be cool.
Definitely waiting for the PC version to be released. Haven't owned a board game in over 25 years but I'm tempted to buy the starter kit to check it out once the wife has moved on and I won't catch crap for using the dining room table for a war room.
Quote from: Yskonyn on July 29, 2022, 04:08:19 PM
I'd like winter maps to be added, just like in Storming the Gap.
Also, a monter sized campaign where you can use both products would be cool.
Storming the Gap the whole lot is now available there for USD 150, including the extension pack and neoprene gaming map. New stretch goals were added, the goal for two additional scenarios likely met today, next in the line is an extra counter sheet for Brits, then the winter maps.
:smitten:
That's the third out of four additional stretch goals met - an extra UK + Soviet OOB counter sheet :bd:
Seems sales are picking up towards the end, some 8k remaining for the winter map set, with six days to go :hide:
And here we go, that's the 125k stretch goal met with two days remaining <:-)
Thanks LnL for a great offering via crowdsourcing once again! A win-win for everyone involved I hope :cowboy:
Quote from: Crossroads on August 20, 2022, 04:08:06 AM
And here we go, that's the 125k stretch goal met with two days remaining <:-)
Thanks LnL for a great offering via crowdsourcing once again! A win-win for everyone involved I hope :cowboy:
As long as not too many people back out at the last moment:) I actually broke down and purchased myself although I am I'll get more out of the future digital release.
135k now. We're good for them stretch goals methinks \m/
Yup! I'd say.
Another nice package in the pocket!
I missed this when it came out, company released a video update talking about the long delays and lack of communication. Due to that seems like a lot of conspiracy theories were thrown around, which you can clearly see David not thrilled with and defends. At this point they also are refusing to provide any more specific dates when it might release, just saying they don't want to deal with people calling them out again if missed.
This was my first time backing any of their products and investing quite a bit for an unreleased game. Have to admit I likely won't do it again based on how things have unfolded. Completely understand the frustration from the company and some of the stuff does seem over the top that was said, just not fan of their style and how handled. The part that completely puzzles me is the fact the lack of communication was largely because of David needing to move (which is understandable) and "lack of internet" during that time which was months. In today's world, I find it hard to believe he couldn't find a few minutes over the months during that time to find a spot that cell service/internet was available to post brief updates. Or someone else within the company that had internet couldn't post for him? Seems based in Colorado, which might be a little harder, but still seems like could have found something with the amount of places where cell service and internet is available in public places or have others do on his behalf. So that part I can understand people's skepticism as does seem a bit far fetched. Fingers crossed we end up getting the game at somepoint,....
https://www.facebook.com/LocknLoadPub/videos/387784500241049
The following is *not* directed at you Grim;
I have no doubt we'll get the game. And I also have no doubt the quality will be on par with Storming the Gap. I agree their communications could have been better, but what's happening with people these days? Just have a little faith and show a little extended patience, instead of lashing out and rallying all the keyboard warriors.
The guys from LnL have a pretty good track record of pushing out quality boardgame stuff. There is no conspiracy going on to scam us from our money here.
Quote from: Yskonyn on January 22, 2024, 04:05:51 AMThe following is *not* directed at you Grim;
I have no doubt we'll get the game. And I also have no doubt the quality will be on par with Storming the Gap. I agree their communications could have been better, but what's happening with people these days? Just have a little faith and show a little extended patience, instead of lashing out and rallying all the keyboard warriors.
The guys from LnL have a pretty good track record of pushing out quality boardgame stuff. There is no conspiracy going on to scam us from our money here.
For me, nothing to do with actually getting the game, nor do I condone or participate in threatening or really saying anything to the developer that is personal. Nothing that happened should ever result in that. Quite frankly I dont even remember when the game was promised although I do recall it being stated it would be a quicker turnaround, I was never in a hurry as I have plenty of other stuff.
But the communication or lack of, especially using the excuse of moving and not having access to the internet for months when the internet is everywhere or could have had someone else from the company provide the updates, is purely unbelievable and what really concerns me about the company which will make me pause in supporting anything they produce in the future. Couldnt he use a cell phone either? Instead of really owning it, kept on defending it which I can't believe didn't even seem odd to himself. And watching the video and how he communicates gives me pause, although I understand he likely was upset because of the abuse being received. So the company has lost some trust with me to support them again, we will see how things end up and who knows what happens in the future.
And although I don't condone what some people did, lack of communication can lead to people thinking something is wrong and start thinking the worst that could have been avoided with some basic common sense quick communications. Again, no place how far people took it and never will be.
Did receive some email updates recently where they received production copies to review, so seems like possibly getting closer. Of all the kickstarters I have participated, first experience with anything like this but I am sure it happens with others more than I know.
I recall it wasn't a case of 'just moving', but some event forced his hand in the matter. It either wasn't voluntary or it had to do with some other social calamity, can't remember the exact details.
I do agree though, there is no way a complete silence was the only way to go about it. Delegating updates to someone else in the company with more time or brain space on his or her hands would have been a logical step and an easy mitigating action.
Might have been more behind the scenes, but he stated multiple times it was due to lack of internet which nowadays is crazy with cell phones and public access being available, especially over the course of months. And like you said, there are more than one person at this company, none of them able to post? You can see why people don't find it believable and start to come up with conspiracy theories when something this unbelievable is used as the excuse. I totally respect if he had personal issues that were more important, but being a business owner seems like there were available options.
Again, still no excuse for people to go nuts but does leave the door open as to whether you can trust what was said and that is more of the issue for me personally. Hopefully will all be in the past soon anyway.
I've got this ordered as well and I have to agree that the lack of communication is a bit baffling but I can be patient as I've a mountain of unplayed games here yet so not lacking for things to do.
Quote from: nelmsm on January 22, 2024, 12:15:45 PMI've got this ordered as well and I have to agree that the lack of communication is a bit baffling but I can be patient as I've a mountain of unplayed games here yet so not lacking for things to do.
Yep, totally agree. Utilmately I don't care when it comes out as I have plenty myself, just really strange on how things transpired.
Unless he was moving deep into the Rockies or Appalachia or the middle of the Mojave you should be able to get internet access now days.
Quote from: nelmsm on January 23, 2024, 10:27:06 AMUnless he was moving deep into the Rockies or Appalachia or the middle of the Mojave you should be able to get internet access now days.
Or cell phone? Or just have someone else from the company post for him:) I think this is the reason people not finding the reasoning believable as so many options.