Started by GDS_Starfury, March 08, 2023, 07:22:42 PM
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Quote from: W8taminute on March 16, 2023, 08:56:27 PMKind of back on topic. All humans from all tribes and groups have at one point or another hated someone or some group. But history is full of examples, even today right now, of anti-Semitism being the kind of hate that goes beyond irrational and all explanation. It not only borderlines 100% pure evil, it exceeds it by leaps and bounds.So if you think about why this group of people in the whole world receive such hatred that is beyond explanation what does that say to you? Israel was attacked on day 1 of it's creation, in fact within hours of it's creation. And this happened not very long after the Holocaust. You would think the world would have been accommodating but no. Instead out right violence and war.
Quote from: JasonPratt on Yesterday at 07:57:14 AMThe Irish might come closest to a historical parallel, although they owe part of their cultural survival to a wholesale acceptance of Jewish influence and principles in modifying their culture (even though not always accepting Jewish people).Sheer stubbornness either way, definitely helps! ...
Quote from: Ubercat on Yesterday at 08:05:19 AMI used to think that persecution of the Jews was somehow unique in it's extremity. In fact, this posed the most difficulty for my atheism. As it turns out Jews are not alone in being targeted with violence.
Quote from: Ubercat on Yesterday at 08:05:19 AMWho better than a powerful industrialized nation to take hate to such a level as the holocaust. It happened in Germany, but with different circumstances it could have happened anywhere.
Quote from: W8taminute on Yesterday at 10:36:14 AMFor atheism to work the hatred for Jews must be reduced to a common denominator in which all men hate each other and it happens all over the place. The Jews are no different. Then G and the enemy can completely be removed from the equation.
Quote from: Pete Dero on Yesterday at 01:34:50 PMI am an atheist and I don't hate any group of people, and as far as I know that is the case with most atheists. It is my impression that most hate against religious groups is by other religious groups.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on Yesterday at 03:33:49 PMI'm an atheist and I hate just...all kinds of people.
Quote from: Ubercat on Yesterday at 04:44:17 PMI agree but would go further. I think the problem is ideology. Blindly followed beliefs enable all sorts of atrocities. Religions, which historically have caused the most problems, are merely ideology with a supernatural layer in my view. The 20th century with the rise of Communism and Fascism has demonstrated that you don't need to believe in any gods to be an asshole.