East Palestine train derailment

Started by al_infierno, February 13, 2023, 07:24:51 PM

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al_infierno

Not sure exactly when this was taken, but this is from a passenger plane that flew over the burn-off.

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I guess it's sort of nice that the word "tactical" seems to refer to some kind of seriousness during your moments of mental clarity.
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Redwolf

Quote from: Windigo on February 15, 2023, 10:22:53 AMPipelines are safer than rail.... just saying that

Well, I don't hear about such derailments out of Europe. The discussion about the level of brakes to be installed on a transport like this probably ends with the weaker brakes not allowed in Europe in the first place.

Train companies is the US are a bit out of control.

Groggy

Quote from: al_infierno on February 15, 2023, 03:47:55 PMNot sure exactly when this was taken, but this is from a passenger plane that flew over the burn-off.



It literally looks like melanoma cancer.
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Sir Slash

That's one hell of a big melanoma! Does this mean Ohio has to have surgery followed by Chemotherapy? 
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Redwolf

Looks like it is politically neutral, so I'm just putting this here from wikipedia.

QuoteElectronically Controlled Pneumatic (ECP) brakes
In 2014, Congress passed the Rail Safety Improvement Act which required ECP brakes for "high-hazard flammable" trains.[5] The derailed train was not equipped with ECP brakes, which a former Federal Railroad Administration official claimed would have mitigated the severity of the accident. In 2017, railway industries successfully lobbied Congress with over $6 million and over $3 million in GOP and Democratic campaigns, respectively, to repeal the regulations requiring the use of such brakes on trains carrying hazardous materials.

However, despite the scale of the accident in East Palestine, the derailed train did not meet the qualifications of a "high-hazard flammable" train and therefore was not affected by the 2014 legislation or its 2017 repeal. The 2014 legislation was weakened by heavy lobbying by the rail industry.[6]


I'll try to find out whether such brakes are standard in Germany or at least required for hazardous cargo.

Sir Slash

Here's what I think, which is worth about the same as Butterfly farts. This accident is tailor-made for politicians. Every time there's a disaster, they flock to them to get their picture taken glad-handing and handing out bottled water and such. The fact that no politician will go near the place, nor government official, or even the RR Execs, tells me something's got them scared shitless here.

I wouldn't be surprised if in a few months after everything quiets down, the EPA announces they have discovered there is contamination here in the water and soil but from some kind of natural source like mines or industry and that explains why they couldn't find it....and are not responsible of course. The Old Potomac Two-Step.
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JasonPratt

What in the actual hell WOULD qualify for a high-hazard flammable train?! .......actual hell!??

I suppose (more seriously) they mean materials that would spontaneously combust upon contact with normal atmosphere or water or other common environmental chemicals. That train didn't have such chemicals. Just, well, highly explosively flammable ones.
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Another train carrying hazardous substances derailed near Detroit today.
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^Is the total now four in the last 2-3 weeks?


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Sir Slash

It's so bad that people trying to commit suicide don't even lie down on the train tracks anymore, cause they're hardly ever on them.  :shocked:
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Groggy

Quote from: Sir Slash on February 16, 2023, 10:45:39 PMIt's so bad that people trying to commit suicide don't even lie down on the train tracks anymore, cause they're hardly ever on them.  :shocked:

Knock it off with the suicide jokes. There are a lot of people out there who are struggling daily, mentally unwell, and don't necessarily have good access to  the proper help that they need.
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al_infierno

This video makes me woozy.  Someone tosses a rock into a creek and some, uh, very unhealthy looking stuff crops up.

https://old.reddit.com/r/ABoringDystopia/comments/114ksf1/residents_of_east_palestine_ohio_are_being_told/
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It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge.  War endures.  As well ask men what they think of stone.  War was always here.  Before man was, war waited for him.  The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner.  That is the way it was and will be.  That way and not some other way.
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If they made nothing but WWII games, I'd be perfectly content.  Hypothetical matchups from alternate history 1980s, asymmetrical US-bashes-some-3rd world guerillas, or minor wars between Upper Bumblescum and outer Kaboomistan hold no appeal for me.
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I guess it's sort of nice that the word "tactical" seems to refer to some kind of seriousness during your moments of mental clarity.
- MengJiao

Gusington

Supposedly here in semi-upstate NY the rain we had today was heavily acidified from what happened in Ohio  :grumpy:


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