Russia's War Against Ukraine

[GDS_Starfury]

[JudgeDredd]

Do you guys think the average 20 year old in our countries have any more common sense regarding warfare?

No

[Jarhead0331]

yes

I'm talking about people who aren't trained since most Russian recruits are getting almost no training.

+1. Not only are they barely trained, but I presume there are very low standards in Russia for what constitutes fit for combat duty. It would not be surprising to find that a high proportion of recruits have generally low IQ, and suffer from a variety of mental (or moral) and physical disabilities that under ordinary circumstances would render them entirely unfit for service. Even in the US at times of conscription, recruits have fallen through the cracks and made it into training when they were very obviously categorized (or should have been categorized) as 4-F. 

[Crossroads]

yes

I'm talking about people who aren't trained since most Russian recruits are getting almost no training.

+1. Not only are they barely trained, but I presume there are very low standards in Russia for what constitutes fit for combat duty. It would not be surprising to find that a high proportion of recruits have generally low IQ, and suffer from a variety of mental (or moral) and physical disabilities that under ordinary circumstances would render them entirely unfit for service. Even in the US at times of conscription, recruits have fallen through the cracks and made it into training when they were very obviously categorized (or should have been categorized) as 4-F.

What I've read from multiple sources is they widely continue to use mobiks as cannon fodder for identifying Ukrainian positions, then attacking those with indirect fire and UAVs, then having more experience troops go forward. Rinse and repat.

[Jarhead0331]

One of my favorite books when I was a kid was a mother book on the Vietnam War. It has awesome pictures, maps, charts, and information. i would practically sleep with it at my bedside. One of the many pages that stuck out in my mind despite the passage of decades was this one.



This discussion made me think of it and pull the book from my shelf. Brings back a lot of memories. 

[Gusington]

^That is...heartbreaking.

[ArizonaTank]

Do you guys think the average 20 year old in our countries have any more common sense regarding warfare?

I think so. I have had the chance to work with active duty US military folks off-and-on for the last 30 years. It is a professional force, and the soldiers I have come into contact with are generally pretty damn good. I walk away thinking the future is in good hands.

[GDS_Starfury]

russia is getting wrecked again

https://twitter.com/i/status/1774801904557494665

[GDS_Starfury]

thats a large "drone"

https://twitter.com/i/status/1775039250519462293

[MengJiao]

thats a large "drone"

https://twitter.com/i/status/1775039250519462293

I thought Klawbunga was in KaliforniaStan.  You learn something new every day!

[Uberhaus]

I wondered how the drone was able to penetrate so far into Russian airspace, not that they [the Russians] are particularly successful.
Then I noticed the strong resemblance to a light aircraft such as a Cessna.  I would really hate to be a Russian private pilot going forward.

[ArizonaTank]

I wondered how the drone was able to penetrate so far into Russian airspace, not that they are particularly successful.
Then I noticed the strong resemblance to a light aircraft such as a Cessna.  I would really hate to be a Russian private pilot going forward.

It seems that Russian reports are speculating that it was a manned "kamikaze."  But I think those reports are just for domestic Russian consumption. "Kamikaze" doesn't fit the Ukrainian profile, and the Ukrainians certainly aren't that desperate.

[Crossroads]

https://twitter.com/Sharman2Pam/status/1775123864034410663

https://twitter.com/MontayBayBay/status/1775121133039133173

 

[FarAway Sooner]

You guys just keep droning on about this topic.

 

[Uberhaus]

I wondered how the drone was able to penetrate so far into Russian airspace, not that they are particularly successful.
Then I noticed the strong resemblance to a light aircraft such as a Cessna.  I would really hate to be a Russian private pilot going forward.

It seems that Russian reports are speculating that it was a manned "kamikaze."  But I think those reports are just for domestic Russian consumption. "Kamikaze" doesn't fit the Ukrainian profile, and the Ukrainians certainly aren't that desperate.

Did the Russians say it was a Nazi, ISIS, Western lackey, existential threat to Mother Russia... kamikaze?  The Russian leaders are totally out to lunch, and if you don't mind, I'll segue into how much so. 
The Iranians warned the Russians of a major terrorist attack:  https://www.reuters.com/world/iran-alerted-russia-security-threat-before-moscow-attack-sources-say-2024-04-01/

Obviously, ISIS carried out this attack, but maybe the Kremlin isn't stupid, but crazy enough to allow the attack to go ahead to exploit for their own purposes.