Rising Storm 2 will be in Vietnam.....
http://www.risingstorm2.com/overview.aspx
Great heads up, thanks!
I want it now !!
I just fired RO this morning for the first time in months.
Nice.
RO2 is one of the very few FPSes I still consider playing.
Quote from: Nefaro on June 20, 2015, 09:27:38 AM
Nice.
RO2 is one of the very few FPSes I still consider playing.
It's the first shooter that I 'got in to'. There were enough playing it this morning for several full MP games.
Oooooh....I love Vietnam games. Lets hope this turns out a good yin. The one(s?) I have is too old now
Eh, I am not really into Vietnam for a gameplay setting. Even the Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Vietnam expansion didn't do much for me. I would rather had them stay in WWII, or give us a WWIII in Europe setting circa 1985.
Still, RO2 is one of the best shooters I ever played, so I will support Tripwire with a purchase.
I'm curious how they do the helos, are we flying them ? Would be cool if we can, that cobra looks cool. I hope they are not AI only. I'm sure this will make it into my steam library regardless.
Quote from: Skoop on June 20, 2015, 05:15:39 PM
I'm curious how they do the helos, are we flying them ? Would be cool if we can, that cobra looks cool. I hope they are not AI only. I'm sure this will make it into my steam library regardless.
Similar to artillery/air support in RO2, perhaps?
I wonder if they'll model an Radio-Telephone Operators, and force Squad Leaders to be near the RTO in order to call in air strikes.
RO2 did the jungles and booby traps well. Vietname would be a no brainer.
So this is not "In Country" who dumped the Tripwire engine for Unreal Engine.
http://www.incountrygame.com/
Quote from: jomni on June 22, 2015, 05:01:44 PM
RO2 did the jungles and booby traps well. Vietname would be a no brainer.
So this is not "In Country" who dumped the Tripwire engine for Unreal Engine.
http://www.incountrygame.com/
Nah, not related.
By all accounts
Rising Storm delivers on the "asymmetric" combat, so this iteration should work well.
You guys are right. It's probably not much of a setting leap from Rising Storm. They already have a jungle setting.. just a matter of adding some new stuff.
I should go revisit RO2 & Rising Storm, but I often say that for dozens of games I've enjoyed. Last I checked, my Steam library contained hundreds of games, at least 1/3rd of which I've not even played yet. Then there's a very long list of GOG, GG, Desura, and others. I'm buried, keep buying more on sales, and will never catch up at the current rate. :uglystupid2:
But I'll be damned if I don't pick up RO Vietnam. >:D
Recent scoop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xgrPjmImCA
Sooooo
When is
Rising Storm 2: Vietnam supposed to be released?
Looks like some closed beta footage is being allowed, so it must not be too far off...
These maps look like some amazing fun.
The hill maps with the tunnels in this vid.. :coolsmiley:
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Quote from: Nefaro on March 20, 2017, 03:08:54 PM
These maps look like some amazing fun.
The hill maps with the tunnels in this vid.. :coolsmiley:
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Could almost make one get over their PC Funk!
I have to tell you. I know somebody who I asked a frank question about this game. I know graphics are not everything. But I have been asking whether the RO2 graphics which were dated on RO2's release were better in RS2 Vietnam. The answer is usually that the graphics are improved and the game looks amazing or graphics are not everything. Needless to say I did not see the improvement in the videos but was hoping the gameplay when actually loading it changed that as yet other people suggested. I guess I have been spoiled by Battlefield series.
So one of my steam contacts loads it and I ask him a question. His answer:
ME:Tell me. Do the graphics look as shit as in the screenshots?
ME: Or are they better than ro2?
HIM: ill be honest, there about the same
ME: Yeah as I thought
HIM: i was hoping for some better detail
ME:That's a shame
HIM: but some of the foliage is below par
ME: just needed a graphics update and I could have played it for another 10yrs
I will still probably buy it. But without at least reasonable graphics "I" have to be honest. I don't know how long it will stick.
The gameplay will want to be so amazing.
I'm not really into FPS games anymore. The very few I consider these days are all about the multi-player gameplay and having large wide-open maps with relevant terrain.
From what I saw in that last video, it looks like much fun to be had and generally more of it than Rising Storm. I'm fine if the gfx aren't improved that much if it's the same kind of outdoor "tactical shooter" with appropriate Vietnam theme.
There are very few FPS titles that fit my narrow preferences, and RO2/RS has been one of the closest. :) Even if I don't pick it up at release, I'll have it eventually.
I came to RO2/Rising Storm party very late, only since 2016. But I love it in realistic mode. It's the only FPS I'll play. My son is into Battlefield One, but I find that it plays like a charicature of WWI, rather than being true to WWI.
I tried BF1 for a while. But it was of course as expected a complete joke when it came to reflecting ww1.
It's a skin job over a twitch shooter. It's got immersion though, but the WTF moments are many. Mostly when you shoot a guy once with a 7.92 rifle and he does not even flinch but then guns you down with tiny sub rounds. Their is no real fight unless you use special servers that allows rifle and heavy machine gun play without all of the rarer weapons being in the fore.
Quote from: Destraex on March 22, 2017, 07:10:15 PM
I tried BF1 for a while. But it was of course as expected a complete joke when it came to reflecting ww1.
Ugh.. never did like the gamey FPSes. Like bunny-hopping shooters that require half a mag through center mass to put someone down. Featuring tiny cramped maps with essentially the same three alleys to run down, respawning in front of the enemy, and other assorted but typical FPS bs.
I think RO/RS and ARMA are the only FPS series I still get. :clap:
Oh dayum!
It will also have multi-crew gunships?! I mean.. I know RO2 had some multi-crew tanks & APCs, but now they're adding helos?
The Cobra looks good. :coolsmiley:
Pre-purchase option now available and participate in closed beta (when it's ready).
http://steamcommunity.com/games/418460/announcements/detail/1300821864155237931
Well I succumbed...for less than half the price of a AAA title, I thought I'd take a punt. Especially since I already know that RO2 is a decent game.
Oh yeah, this is a Day 1 buy. Rising Storm is an absolute blast.
Just preordered on instant gaming for 15bucks.
Remind me again...will this have any single player piece, even if just against bots?
I pre ordered as well because it was so darned cheap.
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 02, 2017, 05:48:51 PM
Remind me again...will this have any single player piece, even if just against bots?
probably based on RO2.
The single player with bots is really, really bad in RO2. You definitely don't want to get this for the single player only, IMO.
Quote from: jomni on May 02, 2017, 06:42:34 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on May 02, 2017, 05:48:51 PM
Remind me again...will this have any single player piece, even if just against bots?
probably based on RO2.
From its GamersGate product page (https://www.gamersgate.com/DD-RISING-STORM-2-VIETNAM-DDE/rising-storm-2-vietnam-digital-deluxe-edition):
"Rising Storm 2: Vietnam is the sequel to PC Gamer's 2013 'Multiplayer Game of the Year', published by Tripwire Interactive and developed by Antimatter Games, the same team that created the award-winning innovative asymmetric gameplay of the original Rising Storm. For the first time, the authentic gunplay and visceral first-person action of the Red Orchestra series is coming to an era of automatic rifles, man-portable grenade launchers and more modern weapons systems. Rising Storm 2: Vietnam casts players into a brutal, authentic recreation of the Vietnam War...."You are correct! ;)
I bought this and I am hoping it will be better than the other titles.
Quote from: demjansk1942 on May 03, 2017, 04:35:28 AM
I bought this and I am hoping it will be better than the other titles.
You didn't like the other RO2 titles?
Hi guys,
Full disclosure, we are a distribution platform for tripwire /Full disclosure
I am really loving the game, played in the beta waves. It is great fun. Hit me up if you want to play some games during the weekend, a new beta wave is expected.
Cheers,
Surtur
Can you expand on how it's different from Rising Storm? That seems to be a concern of some. Or how bot play is?
It's an instant buy for me because I love MP RO2, but some folks might appreciate a contrast between the two/three.
Understand if you're under NDA.
Hi Toonces,
For the most part I am, but there are some things I could expand upon.
For bots, it is not a priority and botplay won't be available at release. Now the bot code is still in there, so I expect modders to activate it. Generally though, the community really disliked the mods, so the team decided not to invest resources in it. This is first and foremost a multiplayer experience.
For differences compared to the previous Rising Storm, there are many.
First of all, due to the setting, gameplay is very different. More automatic firearms change the pace of the game quite a bit, actually making it a bit slower paced in my view. The assymetrical gameplay of Rising Storm has been expanded upon. The VC and NVA have a very different fighting style from the US. The VC/NVA can use tunnels to create spawn points for example. wherass the US can spawn from helis. US also has huge oportunities for fire support. Did I mention helis are in? They can be piloted by people, either to fight or deliver troops to the front lines. The VC/NVA can retaliate with traps, tunnels and rocket artillery.
Another change is the addition of a smaller, faster tactical mode for 16 players. We expect this will be popular with competitive games.
The squad system has been made less rigid. You don't have to have specific roles within the squad if you don't want to. Special classes are limited per side, not per squad.
Then we have the graphic updates, while initial screenshots did not show it. A number of improvements were made during the course of the beta, switching to a newer DirectX.
There are many more changes and additions, and more will be made public soon, someone even spoke of an open beta ^-^
Hope it helps.
Cheers,
Surtur
"we expect" surtur?
Are you a dev?
No SP = No buy. If I wanted to play a mp only game, I'd be playing Squad. ARMA III Unsung Vietnam will continue to supply my Vietnam fix. It's spectacular.
^ Did you ever try SP in Rising Storm or RO2? It was horrible. I can understand why they wouldn't prioritize it.
Completely understand if you're not into MP, but you are missing out on a seriously fun experience. If you get two good teams duking it out and can be pretty intense.
Quote from: Destraex on May 05, 2017, 06:05:53 AM
"we expect" surtur?
Are you a dev?
Not a dev, my company helps Tripwire with distribution for all their games.
Quote from: Toonces on May 05, 2017, 06:32:22 AM
^ Did you ever try SP in Rising Storm or RO2? It was horrible. I can understand why they wouldn't prioritize it.
Completely understand if you're not into MP, but you are missing out on a seriously fun experience. If you get two good teams duking it out and can be pretty intense.
I've enjoyed the MP in the past RO2s.
This one looks even better. :notworthy:
For those who pre-purchased, game is now downoadable.
So I've spent some time with this and it's pretty much what I hoped it'd be - RO2 reskinned for Vietnam. The graphics have been given a welcome buff so that everything is a whole lot more colourful, bright and crisp. The sound also is top notch - both weapons and soundtrack, though I still find the triggered voice-acting irritating.
I've not experienced all the game-modes, but the basic one has an interesting dynamic in that at the end of each round the teams are swapped and the map is played again, so you are "forced" to play both sides. This is, I think, a good thing due to the asymmetric design of the game - players won't get het up about one side or the other being OP if they get exposed to both sides.
Bottom line: I'd recommend this if you fancy being in a Kubrick/Stone movie, but don't mind "dying" over and over...
There is the squad tunnel for the Communist. This becomes an extra spawn point even behind enemy lines.
The US can spawn on helicopters (piloted) and can land behind enemy lines too but can be shot down.
Probably the hardest competitive shooter I have played to date. Most of the time you never see your enemy and I would say most of the player base has been playing for ages in closed beta waves previous to this one. It's a recipe for some really hard game play. Add to that a city map and it's over in seconds. You seem to have to level up to get better cosmetic kit like peace helmets etc.
Some of the sounds are placeholders still I think. A lot of the weapons still sound generic. They don't sound bad, just generic. I believe the voices are also generic at this stage... placeholders?
All in all I can see myself, like in Verdun. Coming back to this time and again. Getting shot time and again, then quitting for a time. However if I had a squad worth a damn, that was serious enough and experienced enough on each map, I can see that the game could become a LOT easier. This AINT hollywood, there are no heroes here, you need a proper unit with proper tactics.
What these games always struggle with imho opinion is campers who just snipe the whole game in the same positions. In a real war the battle commonly moves before snipers can get in the perfect position where targets are guaranteed. Or they wait for days to get a target. In games like this due to the small scope, camping and sniping is almost always rewarded.
Quote from: Destraex on May 13, 2017, 08:08:46 PM
What these games always struggle with imho opinion is campers who just snipe the whole game in the same positions. In a real war the battle commonly moves before snipers can get in the perfect position where targets are guaranteed. Or they wait for days to get a target. In games like this due to the small scope, camping and sniping is almost always rewarded.
Why is it not a valid tactic?
It is a valid tactic. However it is also what I call "easy mode". Sitting in a building lying in wait on a PC game level that you "know" will provide targets is not hard. I could do it right now and be fairly successful.
But war is not fought by single men, who act alone, hiding. Generally it is units of men that co-operate to assault and capture or defend ground that actually win wars.
If an entire level is full of people who are just hiding and acting on their own to snipe, in other words 20 individuals each in an entirely different location not in contact or sight of their units. It's not fun or realistic. Because their commander and radio operator are not providing instructions, they are not moving back or forwards, they in real life would in fact be scared if they were not ALL specially trained scout snipers... because they have no command structure telling them whether they have in fact been overrun or not. Have no way of knowing if they are now behind enemy lines. They don't know if they are cut off from extraction. Lone snipers are not the RULE, they are the exception. But in computer games they tend to be the rule.
It is also extremely frustrating for those that actually try to play the game by capturing ground and fighting, because it means that no place is not covered by a lone hiding person that will kill you as you run by. It makes the game a game of sniper clearing rather than a game of battles between units or co-operating formations. Sniper clearing is not fun imho, it's like clearing terrorist incidents every 10 seconds.
You can lock down areas by being a sniper, but in reality you are fighting your own war in a very artificial way. RO2 and RS2 always encouraged group tactics and that is and should be the way forward. Lone super hollywood hero snipers should be discouraged imho.
I think a good way to discourage sniper camping, without eliminating the possibility of using it as a tactic would be to stop rewarding people who do it. For instance, if a player has sniped more than 3 other players from the same position without moving, stop awarding points for kills, in fact, don't even count them as kills for game score /stat purposes or for player kill history purposes, if such data is even recorded. Take away the incentive, but don't penalize.
I enjoyed my latest match at Cu Chi. The whole map is open field except for some elevated roads and houses. Meaning the defenders can just do sniping. My team on the attack was very methodological and we went slow, bounding over watch, squad leaders hiding and keeping alive. "Sniping" as we inch closer to the objective. Then call in arty. After the barrage, we move in.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 14, 2017, 04:25:16 AM
I think a good way to discourage sniper camping, without eliminating the possibility of using it as a tactic would be to stop rewarding people who do it. For instance, if a player has sniped more than 3 other players from the same position without moving, stop awarding points for kills, in fact, don't even count them as kills for game score /stat purposes or for player kill history purposes, if such data is even recorded. Take away the incentive, but don't penalize.
Sounds like a plan. I like it. I would modify it a little to include the caveat that if you are close to 2-3 friendlies you do not get penalised.
Quote from: Destraex on May 14, 2017, 05:22:11 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 14, 2017, 04:25:16 AM
I think a good way to discourage sniper camping, without eliminating the possibility of using it as a tactic would be to stop rewarding people who do it. For instance, if a player has sniped more than 3 other players from the same position without moving, stop awarding points for kills, in fact, don't even count them as kills for game score /stat purposes or for player kill history purposes, if such data is even recorded. Take away the incentive, but don't penalize.
Sounds like a plan. I like it. I would modify it a little to include the caveat that if you are close to 2-3 friendlies you do not get penalised.
But what if the other 2-3 players are sniper camping too!?!?! :2funny:
An idea I had to stop this kind of thing was to make players surrender. Of course no one in a video game is actually going to surrender: my idea was that once a player is surrounded he is given a time-limited opportunity to retreat, and if he does not take that opportunity he "surrenders" and respawns (perhaps with a greater delay than normal). This sort of thing already happens in some games, but the reason for the forced respawn is usually that you're suddenly in a minefield or "leaving the battle area". Surrendering seems to me to be a bit more logical.
Over too soon. Now beta is locked.
Yep. I enjoyed it... but only once I got some friends involved. Lone wolf is no fun in this game. That's the way it should be.
Had a few good games in it with some friends. You definitely do not want to go into combat without good squad teamwork. Unless sniping - easy mode - you go down like a sac on your own. This game has a great mix of game play and realism imho. It's got a lot of features that other games do not have or did not have before it's predecessor, red orchestra 2 came out. If you happen to drop into a clan server, you are as good as dead. They know the maps and the teamwork almost guarantees them success.
Most maps are 64 players, North Vietnam can build tunnels and call SAM sites (+ arty I think) and America can call in air strikes and choppers. The tunnels help the Vietnamese side offset the american choppers air mobility by giving them instant spawn points, sometimes behind the enemy.
I'm kinda annoyed that Vietnamese squads have no squad spawn. So Squad Leaders better build those tunnels. Some new players don't do this.
Commander actions are interestingly different for US and Vietnam.
Would like to see more factions. Where is South Vietnam? They did a lot fighting.
Also like the differentiation between the M16 and AK47. M16 is light with less recoil. Lacks punch.
Which was the major complaint back then when adopting the 5.56 ammo.
Rumour has it the ARVN and the Australians are coming. They even recorded sound for the FN-FAL and sterling with the other weapons. Their FAQ says that these two factions will be considered in future but are subject to change.
Free Weekend. Should have some more newbie targets to shoot at.
Quote from: jomni on November 16, 2018, 05:48:03 PM
Free Weekend. Should have some more newbie targets to shoot at.
Have had it installed for about a month. Still haven't fired it up.
My FPS urges aren't what they used to be. I essentially picked it up for the occasional casual liver damage night when I could turn my thinker off and just pull the trigger until it goes *click*.
There's a new campaign mode. But some filler maps are terrible looking (maybe community made and included by the server manager).
It's really good for that, Nef. I've only played a handful of nights, but it is really fun and not nearly as much of a brain burn as RO2.
I dunno; close games where you lose by a slim ticket disadvantage are a bummer sometimes.
Youtube the trick to get the use of bots on some maps to maybe get a feel for things if the online learning curve aint your bag.
Quote from: jomni on November 19, 2018, 08:28:45 PM
There's a new campaign mode. But some filler maps are terrible looking (maybe community made and included by the server manager).
The last up date borked many of the community maps causing the ground to look blue......These maps will be fixed im sure.
Quote from: jomni on November 19, 2018, 08:28:45 PM
There's a new campaign mode. But some filler maps are terrible looking (maybe community made and included by the server manager).
Seen that a lot, before, in RO2/RS. Probably
is user created ones tossed in by the server host.
Quote from: Toonces on November 19, 2018, 08:32:11 PM
It's really good for that, Nef. I've only played a handful of nights, but it is really fun and not nearly as much of a brain burn as RO2.
I need to get into it sometime. So many amusements to juggle.
You know how sometimes in RO2/RS you'd play a squad leader and get a machine gun and that was awesome? Well, Vietnam is like that ALL THE TIME EVEN FOR THE GRUNTS.
Worth it? YES.
Quote from: Toonces on November 20, 2018, 10:32:25 PM
You know how sometimes in RO2/RS you'd play a squad leader and get a machine gun and that was awesome? Well, Vietnam is like that ALL THE TIME EVEN FOR THE GRUNTS.
Worth it? YES.
Hahaha. Everyone has "machine guns".
LOL, you know what I mean. Maybe you better give me the correct term before Jarhead reads this. :-[
The trick I've found is switching back and forth between auto (for the up close and personal stuff) and semi-auto (for the accuracy) and making sure my sights are set for around 200m.
Zapping a Loach pilot/co-pilot who thinks that speed will save them never gets old.
Quote from: Toonces on November 20, 2018, 11:00:01 PM
LOL, you know what I mean. Maybe you better give me the correct term before Jarhead reads this. :-[
Ohh... You mean "fully semi-automatic assault rifles"?
:DD
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