Don't forget guys, GR:FS is released today on consoles. I've pre-ordered the PC version, but that does not hit retail until 6/12. I'm going to pick up the 360 version today as soon as I can escape from work. Someone go get it so we can play some MP.
'feedback' us as soon as you can JH - ps3 money poised and ready
^will do! I'll try to write some initial impressions tonight or tomorrow.
Damn! I was all excited thinking you meant the PC version! Regardless, I'm looking forward to your impressions.
Quote from: MIGMaster on May 22, 2012, 08:41:53 AM
Damn! I was all excited thinking you meant the PC version! Regardless, I'm looking forward to your impressions.
Me, too, though I won't even consider this as a console game. If the PC is fun I'll be in.
console snob!!
In a word? F*cking Awesome! OK, that's two words, but whatever.
I love it. The gear is kicka$$ and it can be extremely tactical if you want it to be. You are also rewarded for being tactical. In all of the other GR games, I never felt the need, or really even the desire to act like a Ghost. Now, I have the tools to really be a ghost and killing is so much more gratifying when your dead enemy never even knew you were there.
There are just enough tools, weapons, technology and tactics to make you feel like a highly trained, very well equipped SF unit, without making you feel totally invincible. You can and will die if you don't think. I'm just scratching the surface, but so far I love it, and think it may be one of the greatest Tom Clancy franchise games yet. Does it have problems? Yes, some of the missions so far at some parts have been quasi on rails and I really don't like that. Also the graphics are a little bit hit and miss. Otherwise, I'm one satisfied tactical gaming customer. I'm so happy these "thinking man's" shooters are not totally dead. After years of run and gun games like MW and COD, GRFS is like a dream come true.
...and yes, this is just the CONSOLE version.
How are the controls on a console..... Am I going to get arthritis pressing x r2 and down just to duck or is it ok? Presumably you give the orders to the other guys in a top down view?
Did you give multiplayer a go?
Are you still buying the pc version? And why if so?
Quote from: undercovergeek on May 23, 2012, 03:37:59 AM
How are the controls on a console..... Am I going to get arthritis pressing x r2 and down just to duck or is it ok? Presumably you give the orders to the other guys in a top down view?
Did you give multiplayer a go?
Are you still buying the pc version? And why if so?
I got it on the 360 precisely because I prefer the 360 controller to the PS3. So far the controls have been very responsive. I never feel like I'm struggling to get on target with the analog sticks, as is sometimes the case. Crouching is a simple process of tapping the 'B' button. Hold 'B' for a second and you'll drop into prone. The cover mechanic is easily used with a press of the 'A' button and you can cover swap (ie. move from cover to cover) simply by holding 'A.' Its very intuitive and very easy.
Your team AI is very competent. They stay out of sight when necessary, avoid detection, and engage and neutralize targets when appropriate. I've never actually ordered them to do any of this. Your character is not team lead, at least, not yet. So, up until the point I'm at, I've really only been following orders. I have not acquired the aerial drone yet though, so I haven't been able to play around with the top down view it will provide. One cool thing I've been able to do so far is mark targets for my team members. You can mark up to 4 targets. Each member of your team will target one and then you can target another. When you fire the first round, a slow motion mechanic is triggered and all your team members fire at the same time, taking all the targets down at once. Its pretty slick.
I have not tried MP yet.
I pre-ordered on the PC. I think the graphics will be better and I prefer to do most of my gaming in front of the PC. I may sell the xbox version back once the PC is released. We'll see.
thanks for your time JH - i think my laptop, although pretty hardcore would have a heart attack with this and it maybe a ps3 purchase only - that and my other gaming buddies will be console only
Quote from: undercovergeek on May 22, 2012, 03:48:23 PM
console snob!!
You must be mistaken.
I love my consoles. They make great door stops.
JH you have convinced me to sneak out of work early today and grab this title for 360. I'm a bit strapped for cash this month and I knew there was a reason why I was holding off on getting one of those shiny chrome controllers. Ghost Recon seems to be the reason.
Quote from: LongBlade on May 23, 2012, 01:15:55 PM
Quote from: undercovergeek on May 22, 2012, 03:48:23 PM
console snob!!
You must be mistaken.
I love my consoles. They make great door stops.
youre a console-ist, that console-ism right there that is :o
Quote from: W8taminute on May 23, 2012, 02:04:18 PM
JH you have convinced me to sneak out of work early today and grab this title for 360. I'm a bit strapped for cash this month and I knew there was a reason why I was holding off on getting one of those shiny chrome controllers. Ghost Recon seems to be the reason.
im close, i just feel a bit dirty this month - ive bought PR3, Endless Space, have been taunted with Warlock and now this - i had enough games at the end of April - this is just taking the piss!!
Quote from: undercovergeek on May 23, 2012, 02:14:00 PM
im close, i just feel a bit dirty this month - ive bought PR3, Endless Space, have been taunted with Warlock and now this - i had enough games at the end of April - this is just taking the piss!!
It's a great time to be a gamer with all these games coming out. Too bad money's too tight to mention and so is the time. Like you, I bought a bunch of games this past month and still haven't played all of them. Add this one I guess to the list.
Looks like most of the local vendors in my neck of the woods have a copy too, based on the searches I just performed.
^Let us know what you think. I'm watching the clock tick so I can blow out of my office, get home and continue playing. My team is in the middle of their deployment to Nigeria right now and I hate to leave things hanging in the balance.
^Will do for sure. I estimate I've got 50 minutes before I make the attempt to escape. It's funny you mention leaving your team in the balance. I often start my mornings at work reflecting on the previous evenings gaming session. Helps me kick start the day because I'm motivated to work through and get to my real goal. :)
many a drive to work spent pondering last nights moves!!!!
I sometimes plot strategies while I'm in the head dropping a deuce.
best place for all strategical thinking - if i was a general id take a portaloo with me everywhere the battlefield was
Rommel's secret im sure
Just finished mission two and started mission three. My impressions so far? F*CKING AWESOME! This game kicks some serious a$$. Its definitely the best tactical shooter since the advanced warfighter games, and it blows those two out of he water. Last mission, I swept through a rebel occupied village and took out the entire rebel force undetected. The optical camo is really effective when used properly. Then, later in the mission, I got into a huge fire fight in the middle of a really bad sandstorm. Visibility was like 5 feet, so I used my magnetic optics mode and it turned the tide. In mission three, I finally got my little UAV drone and the tactical options are now really getting interesting. There are so many ways to gather intel and plan your attack with this thing.
This is a seriously great title.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 23, 2012, 08:23:35 PM
Just finished mission two and started mission three. My impressions so far? F*CKING AWESOME! This game kicks some serious a$$. Its definitely the best tactical shooter since the advanced warfighter games, and it blows those two out of he water. Last mission, I swept through a rebel occupied village and took out the entire rebel force undetected. The optical camo is really effective when used properly. Then, later in the mission, I got into a huge fire fight in the middle of a really bad sandstorm. Visibility was like 5 feet, so I used my magnetic optics mode and it turned the tide. In mission three, I finally got my little UAV drone and the tactical options are now really getting interesting. There are so many ways to gather intel and plan your attack with this thing.
This is a seriously great title.
Feel like writing up a short review of it?
I'd rather wait for the PC version. I can't take screen shots on the console (I know it can be done, but I don't know how).
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 23, 2012, 08:41:22 PM
I'd rather wait for the PC version. I can't take screen shots on the console (I know it can be done, but I don't know how).
Screenshots require a special dev box. Not sure how much they cost, but it might be possible to be given one as a review site...provided we have an established record of reviewing consoles and have a large enough audience.
^Well, if you can score one, let me know. I'd definitely write console reviews.
^Ditto. I would love to write reviews for console games. I feel more comfortable writing about console games than I do for PC games for some reason. Maybe it's because I've been a console game far longer than a PC gamer. I started out way back when on an NES. It wasn't until I got my N64 that I had really gotten involved heavily with PC gaming.
On another note:
So I went to my GameStop last night immediately after work. I went to Gamestop because they were the closest store to my home with the game in stock. I walk into the shop and notice a 5x5 shelf full of Ghost Recon Future Soldier. Thinking to myself that I would be enjoying the game in no time I asked the clerk for a copy. He says no you can't have one because the copies he has left are only for the pre-orders. That's BS I say to myself and if you (GameStop) think you broke my heart because I didn't pre-order you're an idiot. I'm too old to fall for that marketing shit.
Looks like I will be heading into Best Buy after work today. Oh well, at least I get out of work early for the second day in a row.
Quote from: W8taminute on May 24, 2012, 01:55:54 PM
I went to Gamestop because they were the closest store to my home with the game in stock. I walk into the shop and notice a 5x5 shelf full of Ghost Recon Future Soldier. Thinking to myself that I would be enjoying the game in no time I asked the clerk for a copy. He says no you can't have one because the copies he has left are only for the pre-orders.
I would have said, rhetorically, "then why are they all on display?"
...............and then pushed them all over?
I showed those douches at GameStop what they can do with their pre-orders by walking right into Best Buy, picking up a copy, paying for it and walking out all in less than 8 minutes.
Fired up the game tonight and played a little bit of the campaign as well as Guerrilla mode. After fooling around for about an hour all I can say is WOW! You're right Jarhead, you gotta plan things out properly or you will get smoked real fast. I practiced a bit on the firing range as well. I think this is going to be a big hit. Tomorrow I'm planning on giving MP a whirl. I'll post some more feedback once I advance past the first mission of the campaign.
Quote from: W8taminute on May 24, 2012, 10:43:58 PM
I showed those douches at GameStop what they can do with their pre-orders by walking right into Best Buy, picking up a copy, paying for it and walking out all in less than 8 minutes.
Fired up the game tonight and played a little bit of the campaign as well as Guerrilla mode. After fooling around for about an hour all I can say is WOW! You're right Jarhead, you gotta plan things out properly or you will get smoked real fast. I practiced a bit on the firing range as well. I think this is going to be a big hit. Tomorrow I'm planning on giving MP a whirl. I'll post some more feedback once I advance past the first mission of the campaign.
can you let us know how MP goes too - this is looking like the next game for the PS3 shoot em up nights we have
Did you guys see the GR game that is being developed for Facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/ghostreconcommander
John Romero is invloved so I'm keeping my expectations low..... ;)
Quote from: undercovergeek on May 25, 2012, 05:50:52 AM
can you let us know how MP goes too - this is looking like the next game for the PS3 shoot em up nights we have
I played a round of MP last night in what's called Conflict mode. During Conflict your team is charged with capturing areas or securing objects before the other team does. I really enjoyed the experience being far superior to COD or even BF3. You must plan your moves out carefully, this is not a run and gun game. There is a lot of information available to you via the minimap, onscreen icons, and the sights and sounds of battle. I really liked the minimap compared to other shooters. I found it is much easier to orient yourself and decide where to go than you can in other games.
Just like in the campaign you can hop from cover to cover, employ cameras and other monitoring devices, and if you're a scout you can turn invisible. Being invisible means that no one can see you visually unless you move or fire. No one, however, can hide from thermal imaging and some of my opponents found me that way.
There are three classes you can play all fully customizable depending on what you have unlocked and what your level is. Scout, Engineer, and Rifleman are the classes. Only scouts can use digital camo to hide.
My tactic was to provide overwatch for my team mates or scout the flanks of our positions and snipe from a distance. If you can find a good group of friends with headsets/mics you can have a really good time with this game. The action is not fast paced but when a firefight does erupt the action is not so fast that you don't have time to think. I did better in this game than any other in MP.
Then I went back to playing the campaign. The story is engaging and the action is fun. There is an equal balance of sneaking around and straight up firefighting to be had. All in all a great buy, I highly recommend this game. It's truly a thinking man's shooter.
Played another round of MP last night. It did not go as well as my first round the other day. You need to pay attention to your surroundings much more so than in the typical shooter. Reason being, with everyone planning and plotting their moves carefully, once someone sneaks up on you it's all over.
You do however, have a chance if facing an opponent head on. Then the duel boils down to who can get the shot off first or who is using cover effectively. I really like how MP is shaping up in this game. The players seem to be serious and there have been no incidents of spawn killings and noob bashings. MP in Ghost Recon FS is very civil. Did I say I like it?
After my online round I played the next chapter in the single player game. I'll echo what Jarhead said earlier about taking out the tangos using stealth and not running in with all guns blazing because you will get your ticket punched quickly. There are definitely times when an old fashioned firefight has to be had, but usually you want to sneak in like a Ghost, get the objective, then get out.
Quote from: W8taminute on May 31, 2012, 08:37:13 AM
I'll echo what Jarhead said earlier about taking out the tangos using stealth and not running in with all guns blazing because you will get your ticket punched quickly. There are definitely times when an old fashioned firefight has to be had, but usually you want to sneak in like a Ghost, get the objective, then get out.
This gets much more strategic in the later missions. Early on, it was pretty easy to select four enemies and eliminate them all with a synchronized kill to clear zones and advance. In the later missions, there will be so many enemies that they cannot all be cleared without a good amount of thought. Always take out snipers and enemies located at elevated positions first. Then silently take down stragglers, then start working your way from the outside towards the inside until all enemies are silently eliminated. Sometimes I've had to go through three or four rounds of synchronized kills before a zone is actually cleared. Its undeniably a fabulous game that is what I have been playing, by far, the most.
*Spoiler alert*
Yes that synchro shot had me a little puzzled during the part just before shooting the engine out of the plane. I had 5 targets, with a possible 6th lurking in the warehouse and messed up bigtime. I figured if I told my mates to target the 4 and gave the order to fire, I could pop the 5th guy on my own. That was totally the wrong approach. Not only did we never make it to the plane, but the whole base came after us.
Next attempt I decided to head over to the right side of the camp and sneak up to the runway. There were two towers overlooking the plane along with a rifleman on the ground next to the plane. I decided to synchro target the man on the ground plus the towers and shoot the engine myself. I stopped the plane but at the cost of my life.
I eventually got past this part by sneaking into the warehouse and stealth killing the lone rifleman there, then sneaking to the runway and taking out the engine. Of course it was a bar room brawl after that to get out of there but with the new cover hop system I was able to succeed. Sloppy, yes, but I succeeded.
I will try your advice on the next mission. I've got to beat my Ghost score of 69% that I got after mission 2. Your way seems to be the way to do it.
And yes, this is undeniably a fabulous game. :)
^See, that's the beauty of this game, other than the kicka$$ toys and gadgets, great graphics, high production values and engrossing story. There are so many ways to accomplish a mission. You don't really have to approach the mission from one path or direction and you can go for an all stealth approach that avoids combat where possible, or seek out engagements on your own terms.
The airplane mission you're talking about is a little peculiar in terms of all the other missions up to that point. Once you reach a certain point, the engines on the plane start spooling and you're under the gun to get it before it lifts off. i had to try the mission a few times too before I was able to destroy the plane in time. Ultimately, I silently took down one guard in the center hangar, bypassed one on the far right, synchronized killed three enemies near the runway while I took down a guard in the runway tower and then started hosing the plane with as much lead as I could. I actually got taken down, but as the plane crashed to the ground, one of my team revived me and I was able to proceed after the wreckage.
Again, great friggin' game all around.
Bought yesterday..... Sat on table now waititng to be unwrapped for weekend gaming..... Can't wait
ok i crumbled and opened it early - apart from the Ubisoft servers been down for 2 hours and not being able to set up the online account, all is well.
Snort if you will, my colleagues and I, them more than me TBH are from the BF3, MW3 area of FPS - am i getting something wrong in multiplayer? i emptied a magazine from an mp7 into an enemy at point blank range and ran out of ammo in the clip before he died, reloading cost me my life! all 20 rounds hit him in the torso - is there some fancy armour out there or is the damage engine just entirely different to previous shooters = not a complaint BTW just a question - im sure ill get accustommed to it
^Wow that doesn't sound right. Are you sure all your shots hit? I've had this happen to me lots of times in various games but that's because I'm not good at close range battles. Medium to long distance yes, but not close range. Something to do with getting the reticule over the target when it's really close and moving around wildly.
Try again but hang back and take pot shots from a distance and see what happens. There is no armor that I know of in GR: FS that stops bullets. Maybe the guy was a hack? Or was he behind cover and you were shooting at his heat signature?
no he was running straight toward me - me in cover him not - ive read on an 'issue' forum that the non ghost forces are significantly weaker than the ghosts and thats the team i was on - ill do some more investigating
Finished the Nigeria mission last night and extracted the VIP. This was a challenging mission and very fun indeed. I Ghost scored 62. Things got sloppy when I botched the stealth kill of the guy in the tower who was overlooking the other soldiers playing soccer. I was spotted after I took out the tower guy. From the tower though, I was able to take out the soccer playing soldiers while the rest of my team took out the rest of the camps troops.
After we rescued the VIP and saw him off we had to go into town and retrieve some data he hid there. This is where I learned how to use the UAV to spot targets for synchro killing. If you notice a group that is off to the side and they are in the LOS of your team you can synchro kill them without getting detected. However, what I failed to take into consideration was that a lone gunman on a set patrol pattern stumbled upon the dead bodies and all hell broke loose. What a game!
Is there anyway you can replay completed missions or do you have to wait until you finish the campaign first?
All this emphasis on stealth makes the game sound more like Splinter Cell as opposed to Ghost Recon.
Quote from: jomni on June 06, 2012, 04:46:54 AM
All this emphasis on stealth makes the game sound more like Splinter Cell as opposed to Ghost Recon.
i think the game sits somewhere between the two - you will be crucified trying to run down the flanks or centre of the map heading straight for the objective MW3 style (at least in MP, i dont do SP) - and thats as it should be - its simulation-esque, its not CMBN, its not taking itself very seriously but its trying to do realism the best it can which is more than can be said of COD/BF. Ive had my time in COD and BF dont get me wrong, and still do, and will do in the future, but if you switch on and want that kind of frenetic action then put the COD dvd in, if you want carefully chosen lines of advance, covering your team mate as you leapfrog to the objective in bounding moves, and genuine feelings of 'working for a kill' if thats sounds right - then put the GR dvd in
^Well stated.
Yeah but the original Ghost Recon I loved before moving to Advanced Warfighter is a long range, slow-paced, tactical shooter (like a primitive ARMA). I miss that.