Hi everyone (and Bob)
As Bob is unavailable for playing online presently, I thought I would start an AAR for the tutorial battle in Ghost Panzers and he can give me tips on things I'm doing wrong or suggestions on what to do.
If anyone else has any ideas, any experience of this game system and can offer advice or see some faults in my logic, then please chime in
So - the first mission is to take two buildings in the middle of the map (20).
The Germans get 4 Infantry units, 1 Weapon Team and 2 Decoys. At least one decoy has to be setup north of the road on the top left quadrant of the map and all the German units have to deploy to the north of the West-East road. They also get 1 Command Point, 1-4 for Operations Range and get to setup first.
The Russians get 5 Infantry units, 4 MG units and 1 Weapon Team. The have to setup second (but get to move first), have an Operations Range of 3-4 and 1 Command Point.
Command Point
Command points are used to re-roll for morale checks, can be used by the player moving second to perform an action first (number of units that can be activated = number of command points available), conduct Final Op fire reroll a Melee roll or increase Proficiency Firepower. Command Points are distributed at the beginning of each turn.
Operations Range
Used to determine how many units can be "activated" before passing the pulse to the other player. In this scenario the Russians must activate at least 3 units and a maximum of 4 and the Germans can activate a minimum of 1 and maximum of 4.
A turn continues whilst there are units to "activate".
Turn 1
Russians
Russians get to move first and get to activate 3-4 units.
1st Unit
Russian Infantry squad in H6 attacks the German unit in G5
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The Russian infantry loses it's conceal benefit
No need to check morale for a non suppressed unit
A Russian firepower of 4 is reduced to 2 (the Germans benefit from a -1 conceal + -1 wood building)
A roll of 1 means the German unit is suppressed. The roll does not warrant casualties (roll of 1+casualty rating of 4 on German unit is greater than adjusted firepower of 2)
The conceal counter is removed from the German unit to reveal a Decoy which is also removed
The Russian Infantry squad is marked as used
2nd Unit
The Russian MG squad in G7 attacks F5
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The Russian unit loses it's conceal benefit
No need to check morale for a non suppressed unit
A firepower of 5 for the Russian MG squad is reduced to 2 (the Germans benefit from -1 conceal + -2 stone building)
A roll of 10 = no action and the German unit keeps it's Conceal counter
Russian MG squad is marked as used
3rd Unit
The Russian Weapon Team in D7 opens fire on the German unit in E6
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The Russian WT loses it's conceal benefit
No need to check morale for a non suppressed unit
A firepower of 6 for the Weapon Team is reduced to 3 (the German unit benefits from -1 conceal + -2 stone building)
A roll of 3 = German unit is suppressed - roll does not warrant casualties (roll of 1+casualty rating of 4 on German unit is greater than adjusted firepower of 3)
The German unit gets a suppressed chit and the conceal counter is removed to reveal an Infantry Squad
The Russian WT is marked as used
4th Unit
The Russian Infantry Squad in F7 attacks E6
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The Russian Infantry Squad loses it's conceal benefit
No need to check morale for a non suppressed unit
Firepower of 4 reduced to 2 (the German Infantry Squad benefit from -2 stone building)
A roll of 7 is more than the adjusted firepower of 2 and so no action
The Russian Infantry Squad is marked as used
This concludes the Russians initial step in turn 1
Looking good so far :-)
ok Bawb - got some more for you
Sorry for the bad quality pictures. The light in my room is terrible. The table is right underneath one, so shines on the map. I can't use the flash because it just bounces off the map (I have ordered a flash that can be angled)...so they are the best I can do given the light and lack of adjustable flash
Turn 1
German Operations Phase
The German can activate 1-4 units and places OpFire markers on 4 units in the hope of catching a Russian player making a move
Russian Operations Phase
The Russian Operation Range is 3-4
1st Unit
The Russian squad moves from C7 to C8-D8 !STOP!
The German squad in F5 attempts OpFire and loses it's Conceal bonus
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LOS checks out
There's no need for a morale check because the unit is not suppressed
The proficient FP of 5 is increased by 1 because the squad is marked as OpFire
The range to the target squad is 4 hexes, so a modifier of +4 to the German squad FP of 6 as the squad is in open ground
A roll of 1 is an automatic suppression, but because it can be added to the second Casualty rating of the Russian sqaud (7) and still come under the adjusted German FP of 10, then the Russian squad is eliminated and removed from the map
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The German squad has the OpFire marker removed and it is replaced by an Used marker
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2nd Unit
The Russian MG squad in C7 opens up on the German squad in E6
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The Conceal chit is removed from the Russian MG squad
The Russian FP of 5 is reduced to 3 (-2 for the stone building the German squad are in)
A roll of 9 is a miss
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The Russian unit is marked as Used
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3rd Unit
The Russian MG squad in C6 opens fire on the German squad in E6
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The Conceal chit is removed from the unit but stays on the other unit
The Russian FP of 5 is reduced to 3 (-2 for the stone building the German squad are in)
A roll of 3 equals the modified FP and so the German squad suffers a level of suppression and is fully suppressed
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The Russian unit is marked as used
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4th Unit
The Russian MG squad in C5 opens up on the German squad in E6
The Conceal chit is removed from the MG squad
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The Russian FP of 5 is reduced to 3 (-2 for the stone building the German squad are in)
A roll of 6 is a miss
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The Russian MG squad is marked as used
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The Russian Operations Phase has ended.
Looks good. The only comment I would have is that the last fire action could not have inflicted any further effect on the German squad. Its already fully supressed and the Russian FP was insufficient to cause a step loss. I would have been temped to move it down a couple of buildings to a possible good spot to launch an assault, since the German squad will only recover 1 suppression level.
Ah, yes. I should think about the rolls.
Hey Bawb - I think I'm clear on this but just wanted to check. The roll for the Germans attacking the Russians with Op Fire - I read the rules correctly and you can't use a Command Point to make the Germans re-roll?
As I read it, you can use CPs
- to go first when you are the second player to move
- for a reroll on melee combat roll
- for a reroll on a morale check
- to enable Final Op Fire on a unit more than 1 hex away but within normal range
- to increase proficiency FP
By the way, the game is starting to make "tactical" sense. I'm seeing mistakes I'm making - order of units being activated, when to move, benefits of suppression for the attacker etc...even with such lowly Russian units O0
Yeah, there are chess-like aspects where sequencing of actions can be very important, although I guess that applies to most games to some extent.
The use of CP's is as defined in section 3.0 :-)
Turn 1
German Operations Phase
The German Operation Range is 1-4
Unit 1
The German units marked as OpFire cannot act unless there's movement.
The German squad in B3 opens fire on the Russian MG squad in C5
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The German squad lose their Conceal chit and benefit
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The German FP of 6 is reduced to 5 because the Russian squad is in a Wood building
A roll of 8 is a miss
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The German squad is marked with a Used marker
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Unit 2
The German unit in E6 wants to fire on the Russian WT in D7 but has to pass a morale check
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As the unit is fully suppressed, it needs to roll a 1
A roll of 7 is no good
The German player could use a CP to roll again here, but it's not worth it
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The German squad is marked as Used
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This ends the German's turn as all other units are marked as OpFire
Russian Operations Phase
The Russian player only has 2 units left...I'm making an assumption here that although he has a minimum of 3 and maximum of 4 for his operations range that he can activate less than his minimum number if he doesn't have the minimum number left
Unit 1
The Russian squad in B5 loses it's Conceal chit and bonus
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There's no point in the unit opening fire because it can only cause a level of suppression at most and that would be removed from the German unit at the end of the turn anyway, so he decised to redeploy
The squad has 5 movement points and moves from B5 to B6 (2mp)-B7(2mp) and finally B8(1mp)
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The Russian squad is marked as Used
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Unit 2
The Russian squad in C6 is activated
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It loses it's Conceal chit and benefit
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It opens up on the German squad in E6
It's FP of 4 is reduced to 2 because the German squad is in a Stone Building
A roll of 0 is always a miss
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The Russian Squad is marked as Used
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The Russian Operations Phase has ended.
This concludes the Operations phase for both players as all units are effectively used
Rout Phase
Russian Rout Phase
The Russians being the side to move first goes through the rout phase first.
There are no Russian units in the same hex as an enemy unit, adjacent to an enemy unit not in melee or in open ground and in LOS of an enemy unit
German Rout Phase
The Germans rout next and the same situation as the Russians applies
That ends the Rout Phase
Melee Phase
There are no units of opposite sides in the same hex
This ends the Melee Phase
Recovery Phase
All Used and CP chits are removed and all Fully Suppressed markers are turned to their Suppressed side and all Supressed markers are removed
All used chits are removed
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The German unit in E7 is reduced from Fully Suppressed to Suppressed
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The OpFire markers are removed
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The Turn has ended and the Turn Marker is moved to Turn 2
All good so far, JD. Maybe time for some Russian sacrifices to get into E6 :-)
I can't :'(
But I must
..there is a commissar with a Nagant standing behind you............
But they'll get slaughtered in open ground and there's always final op fire too...they'll never make it
Uncle Joe accepts no excuses.
A possible infiltration route down the 'H' column ;-}
Firegroup C5, C6, C7 and C8 against E6 - you should have enough there to break them. Then assault move F7, G7 and H6 into F6, G6 and H5 respectively. F5 will have too many targets to fire at though he could opt to spray fire against F6 and G6 at point blank range. ;)
Yeah - I think the problem was when I played the first set of moves, my head wasn't in line with the mechanics.
I know now to suppress - get suppression and they have to pass a morale check which will give me a chance of crossing the open ground without incident. Full suppression would be even better...although given the quality of the Russian troops and the defensive position of the Germans.
It could just come down to what Bob suggests - suicide
Turn 2
Russian Operations Phase
The Russian Operations Range is 3-4
It's time to soften up these German units and assault
Unit 1
The Russian MG squad in C5 opens fire on the German squad in E6
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The Russian MG FP of 5 is reduced to 3 because the German squad is in a Stone building
A roll of 10 is a miss
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The Russian squad is marked with a Used marker
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Unit 2
The Russian MG squad in C6 opens fire on the German squad in E6
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The Russian MG FP is reduced from 5 to 3 because the German squad is in a Stone building
A roll of 1 is automatic suppression
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The German unit is Fully Supressed
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The Russian MG squad is marked as used
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Unit 3
The Russian MG squad in G7 opens fire on the German squad in F5
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The Russian MG FP is reduced to 3 because the German unit is in a Stone building
A roll of 3 means the German unit is suppressed
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The Russian MG squad is marked as used
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Unit 4
The Russian squad in F7 moves towards the objective into F6 !STOP!
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The German squad in F5 opens fire with opportunity fire
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The German unit has to pass a morale check because it's suppressed
A roll of 8 means it fails it's morale check and cannot fire!
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The German uses it's Command Point to reroll the morale check and a roll of 9 is no good and so the German squad cannot fire!
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The German squad is marked as used
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The other German squad in E6 could also open fire using OpFire, but a roll of 1 is required and so he does not do so
The Russian unit completes it's move into F5 and is marked as used
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This ends the Russian's Operations Phase for this phase of the turn
German Operations Phase
The German has an Operation Range of 1-4
Unit 1
The German squad in E4 moves to F4 and loses it's Conceal chit and benefit
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The squad is marked as used
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Unit 2
The German squad in B3 was going to assault the Russian squad in C5 but decided against it
The squad would suffer at the hands of a modified FP of 7...the Proficient FP of 2 for the Russian squad modified with +3 for being adjacent, +4 for the German squad moving in open ground giving an FP of 9 but reduced by -2 to 7 because it's Final OpFire (the Russian squad has been used)
Bob - am I correct in my calculation of the modified FP above? It seems very harsh but I remember you saying it is a great tactical game in the sense that it really forces you to not charge about, using cover and suppression
This concludes the German's Operations Phase for this phase of the turn
What's the victory conditions JD? You say in your intro to take 2 buildings but don't specify which. I would assume that this is a "Guards Counterattack" type scenario with the Germans strictly defending; or is it a meeting engagement in that the Germans have to take two of the Russian buildings and vice versa for the Russian player?
Gary, its actually the GP Infantry Training Scenario. The Russians win if there are no German units in E6/F5 building at the end of the game (4 turns).
Quote from: bob48 on October 02, 2016, 11:05:47 AM
Gary, its actually the GP Infantry Training Scenario. The Russians win if there are no German units in E6/F5 building at the end of the game (4 turns).
Got ya. These are fun types of scenarios in whatever tactical game system you use. I'd take the Russians in this one any day just by the looks of it but the Germans could sure make it tough. They must cover that D4-D6 road with as much firepower as they can; I'd look to move the squad in B3 over to D2 to assist with that. That would allow the German squad to move back over to G4 where he can bolster up their left flank.
I'd think that the Russians can't be too fickle here. They're going to take some losses but they have the numbers (as per usual) so they just need to swarm and overwhelm the VL building and take it and then let the time run out as the Germans make a counter-attack to try and take it back.
Looks like fun!
Problem is, for the Russians, is the FP bonus the Germans get when the Russians try to cross open ground without suppressing the German units. For a start, there's a +4FP bonus for the Germans as soon as a Russian unit moves out into the open. Then there's a +3 for being adjacent IF the Russian unit moves next to a German unit.
The hope the Russians have - and they actually did quite well this last phase - is to fully suppress the German units. By suppressing the German units, you reduce their ability to pass a morale check and if they can't pass a morale check, then they can't fire.
In this scenario, the Germans have a Weapon Team in D2 watching the road south - but the real danger will come from the South East. Now the German units are used and suppressed, the Russians can close in. That's why, as the German player, I moved the German squad from E4 to F4 - to cover. I might have been better moving it one further to G5 though...but I was holding off so that if the Russian came adjacent then I could pounce.
Now, if the squad in H6 can reinforce the assault, then you have an extra chance of clearing the hex, and if the German squad fails its moral check, then its dead.
However, that will leave 2 Russian squads in that hex, and, if I were the German player, I'd spend a command point to take an action prior to the Russian (at the start of the next turn) and maybe do them some damage (from F4). 6+3-2 against both squads.
Bob
I have a question on the ending of a turn
As above, the Russians had 2 units left but their Operational Range is 3-4...so two questions jump up...
- Can the Russian player play the 2 units and end his phase...not meeting the minimum of 3 specified...or if he cannot meet the minimum, is he prevented from activating the two units?
- Can players pass? So if the Russian had 3 units left and the Operational Range suggests he must activate a minimum of 3 units, can he simply pass or if a player has units, he MUST play those units? If players are allowed to pass, that would mean he can wait until he's in a more favourable position to take on the enemy, wouldn't it? If the players are allowed to pass, when does this passing end...? When both players pass?
Thanks
Quote from: bob48 on October 02, 2016, 02:35:18 PM
Now, if the squad in H6 can reinforce the assault, then you have an extra chance of clearing the hex, and if the German squad fails its moral check, then its dead.
However, that will leave 2 Russian squads in that hex, and, if I were the German player, I'd spend a command point to take an action prior to the Russian (at the start of the next turn) and maybe do them some damage (from F4). 6+3-2 against both squads.
At the end of the turn, there's every chance that the German unit will rout at the end of the turn though, right?
JD. You can only pass if you have no eligible units left to activate (or are marked as Op Fire). If the other player has units left un-activated, then he continues activation until he has non left. In other words, the turn ends when neither side has any un-activated units left.
If you have less un-activated units than your minimum operation range, then you just activate what you have available and then pass to the other side.
Yes, if the German unit fails its moral check then it will rout. If there is not another friendly unit in the hex then the routing unit will be destroyed since it is now adjacent to enemy unit which is not in melee (the units in the hex that it has just routed from).
Quote from: bob48 on October 03, 2016, 06:57:46 AM
JD. You can only pass if you have no eligible units left to activate (or are marked as Op Fire). If the other player has units left un-activated, then he continues activation until he has non left. In other words, the turn ends when neither side has any un-activated units left.
If you have less un-activated units than your minimum operation range, then you just activate what you have available and then pass to the other side.
Yes, if the German unit fails its moral check then it will rout. If there is not another friendly unit in the hex then the routing unit will be destroyed since it is now adjacent to enemy unit which is not in melee (the units in the hex that it has just routed from).
Thanks for the help Bob. Sometimes a wee confirmation is a morale boost because it means I've taken something in.
oops...I hadn't thought about that.
Seems like that unit is doomed then (if it fails it's morale check in the rout phase) because I can't move any units into the hex with it and I can't fire into it (even if I had a unit that could fire). Also, I've used my Command Point for the Germans, so I can't re-roll if I fail the check.
Am I right? Is the unit doomed if it fails morale? I can't see a way of helping it.
If the Russian unit(s) in the melee are at full moral, then they obviously do not need to take a check; note that they would check first as the Russian player is the first player in the scenario.
So, if the German unit does fail its moral check, then it will indeed be lost. If there was a second German unit in the hex, then that would negate the loss.
Its quite possible that the German unit could pass its check and roll well enough to give 2 hits to the Russians whilst taking non in return (I have seen this happen on numerous occasions). They would then also both be fully supressed, and units in an on-going melee do not recover suppression, so they would now be at a distinct disadvantage.
The fact that stuff like this happens is what, to my mind, makes it such a good game system.
Yeah. I'm learning the importance of placement, suppression, careful movement...
At the scenario start, I was gobsmacked at the Russian units and thought they wouldn't stand a chance. Having read the rules several times and going through this scenario, I'm learning some important aspects of the system.
I thought those two German units would be harder to dig out than a tick on a sheep dog which is why I didn't place any German units to the east of the objective buildings giving the Germans more firepower over there...but actually, it turns out they are very vulnerable.
Good fun, innit? :-))
If I had been the German player, I would have tried to roll for Op fire with the fully supressed unit. If it had of succeeded, it could have done serious damage to the assaulting unit. Also, I would have reinforced the assaulted hex with the unit from E4 since the higher German FP gives them an advantage in melee; this would have also saved the assaulted unit had it failed its moral check.
Quote from: bob48 on October 03, 2016, 01:45:03 PM
Good fun, innit? :-))
aye
Quote from: bob48 on October 03, 2016, 01:45:03 PM
If I had been the German player, I would have tried to roll for Op fire with the fully supressed unit. If it had of succeeded, it could have done serious damage to the assaulting unit.
I was going to do so - but hadn't thought about it until I had moved the Russian unit into the German hex...by that time I had written some text for the AAR and also taken some photos - so I decided it was too much work to edit. I did mean to mention that in the AAR but forgot...but well spotted.
Quote from: bob48 on October 03, 2016, 01:45:03 PM
Also, I would have reinforced the assaulted hex with the unit from E4 since the higher German FP gives them an advantage in melee; this would have also saved the assaulted unit had it failed its moral check.
Yeah. I thought I was being clever. At the time, I was thinking about the German player getting a nice bonus on a unit moving adjacent to them - but I forgot about 2 things...1) The German unit wouldn't be able to fire into the hex with the friendly unit and 2) I forgot about the rout issue. I understood it, but kind of hadn't taken on board that the German unit exiting the hex would be moving
next to the Russian unit wherever it went.
This was a learning scenario and that's exactly what it's doing though.
I just have to hope the German squad passes the morale check and doesn't have to rout! Obviously, with hindsight, I wish I had kept my CP - but I needed it back then to try and force the German unit to stop. If I had rolled a good morale roll, the Russian unit would've been history with a +4 in open ground and a +3 for being adjacent
I think its a really good training scenario - it certainly gets you thinking about what you're doing.
Yep. I don't normally go a lot for "training" scenarios and this one seemed odd with the forces so close together, so many Russian units and so much better German units...it all seemed strange
But playing through and seeing what's important has made the scenario make a lot of sense
Tonight I was playing one of the bigger 4 map scenarios and had a situation where 2 Russian 4/1 units managed to assault a German 6/5 unit that had a level 1 suppression. The German unit passed its moral check and rolled 2 hits whilst the Russians managed to obtain no hits at all, leaving them both reduced and with full suppression.
So here's the rest of Turn 2
Turn 2
Russian Operations Phase
The Russian Operations Range is 3-4
Unit 1
The Russian WT in D7 opens fire on the German squad in E6
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The Russian MG FP of 6 is reduced to 4 because the German squad is in a Stone building
A roll of 4 is a hit and the fully suppressed German Squad - however, had I bothered to double check the rules I'd have noted that there was no point in this attack as no result could have resulted in the German Squad taking casualties and as they are already fully suppressed, they cannot be suppressed further.
But we learn
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The Russian squad is marked with a Used marker
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Unit 2
The Russian Squad in B8 moves from B8 to C9 to D8 to E8 - STOP!
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The German Squad in E6 attempts Op Fire but it has to pass a Morale Check
A roll of 5 means it cannot perform the OpFire action
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The German Squad is marked as used
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The Russian Squad continues it's move to F7 and stops for a complete movement allowance of 5
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The Russian Squad is marked as used
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Unit 3
The Russian Squad in H6 moves to G6 to F5 and is marked as used
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Unit 4
The Russian Squad in C7 moves to C8 to D8 to E7 - STOP!
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The German Squad in E6 attempts Final OpFire
A roll of 8 means it failed its morale check and cannot fire.
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The Russian Squad is out of moves and stops - leaving it in a precarious position for the next turn (where the German Squad will lose one suppression level and have a better chance of passing a morale check)
The Russian Squad is marked as used
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This ends the Russian's Operations Phase for this phase of the turn
German Operations Phase
The German has an Operation Range of 1-4
Unit 1
The German squad in B3 moves to C3 to D3 - STOP!
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The Russian Squad in C6 performs OpFire on the German Squad. However, a LOS check shows that the building in C5 obscures vision and so OpFire cannot take place. The Russian Squad is marked as used.
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The German Squad continues to E4 and stops
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The German Squad is marked as used
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Unit 2
The German WT in D2 opens fire on the Russian WT in D7 (and therefore loses its Conceal bonus)
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A German WT has a modified FP of 7 (FP of 8 -1 for the Russian Squad being in a wood building)
A roll of 0 is a miss!! Who would've thought it!
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The German WT is marked as used
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Unit 3
The German unit in C3 is marked as OpFire
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This concludes the German's Operations Phase for this phase of the turn
Both sides units have all been activated and so the Operations Phase for this turn is over.
Rout Phase
Russian Rout Phase
The Russians being the side to move first goes through the rout phase first.
There are 3 Russian units which are in a position to rout - E7 is next to an enemy unit not in melee and 2 units in F5 which are in melee
However - as these units are not suppressed, they automatically pass their morale check and do not rout
German Rout Phase
The Germans have 2 units in a position to rout - one in E6 which is adjacent to an enemy unit not in melee and one in F5 which is in melee and both need to pass a morale check in order to remain where they are.
Unit 1
The German Squad in E6 rolls a 0 and fails it's morale check and must rout.
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As the German Squad is adjacent to a Russian unit not in melee (E7) then the roll is compared to the First number of the German Squads Casualty Rating. As the roll was more than the units first Casualty rating number, then the German Squad is also reduced.
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The German Squad must move to a hex which gives a positive modifier against direct fire, not closer to a Russian unit and not next to a Russian unit not in melee. Such a hex exists...E5 and so the German Squad moves to E5
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Unit 2
The only hope for the German Squad in F5 is to pass it's morale check. If it does not, it cannot rout because it will immediately be next to 2 Russian units not in melee.
A roll of 7 means it has failed it's morale check and because it cannot rout, it's eliminated
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That ends the Rout Phase
Melee Phase
There are no units of opposite sides in the same hex
This ends the Melee Phase
Recovery Phase
All USED and OPFIRE markers are removed
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All Fully Suppressed markers are turned to their Suppressed side
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The Turn has ended and the Turn Marker is moved to Turn 3 and both sides get their Command Point back (though the Russians didn't use theirs). The Germans could have done with holding onto that for the morale check of that unit in F5!
This is the position at the end of the second turn. It's not looking good for the German units.
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I have to say - I really like the rout mechanic. It seems like it allows for a "fluid" battle.
Good stuff, JD.
Bear in mind that the German player could spend a command point(s) to take an action with a unit prior to the Russian turn. This is often useful if you want to take a fire action against an adjacent unit before it fires at you.
Quote from: bob48 on October 17, 2016, 05:16:40 AM
Good stuff, JD.
Bear in mind that the German player could spend a command point(s) to take an action with a unit prior to the Russian turn. This is often useful if you want to take a fire action against an adjacent unit before it fires at you.
Yep - already planted that one in the head - thanks.
Those command points are useful and so limited you have to take care on when to use them.
Of course, if you wanted to risk it.............move the German squad into F5 to assault. The Russian unit will be able to op fire first, but the max FP he can get is 4, or 5 if you spend a CP. The German squad, if it makes it, will have a much better chance in the assault, needing 6's to score hits against the Russian 4's. Even if the German unit takes a suppression, then he still has a 60% to continue into the building and a 60% chance of passing a moral check.
;)
Bob
If the German squad moves from F3 to F4, isn't the modified FP for the Russian squad 6? FP=4-1(wood building)+3(adjacent)?
Actually Bob - the modified FP for the Russian squad is 3 is it not?
FP=1(proficiency FP)+3(adjacent)-1(Wood building)? Which could increase by 1 if the Russian player plays his CP...no? Or does the German squad not get the benefit of the wood building because they are moving out of it?
Check the three possible additions for prof FP. You get a plus 1 for being adjacent, and this is in addition to the 'normal' +3 modifier for being adjacent.
Rule 9, para 5 and see also the modifiers on the player aid card.
So does the German unit not get a defensive bonus for being in the building?
Or they do...
Attack
FP=1
OpFire Adjacent=+1
Normal Adjacent=+3
Defensive
Wood Building=-1
Total = FP4?
The CP cannot be used to increase the FP to 5 because it would take it above the normal FP of 4
I'm not getting it. Can you please lay out what the final FP is made up of?
Yes the German does get the defensive modifier, but I think what you're missing is that the prof FP additions cannot exceed the original FP, but the other modifiers will still be added, therefore;
Prof FP = 1
+1 Prof FP for being adjacent
+1 Prof FP if you spend a command point.
+ 3 'normal' FP for being adjacent
-1 for the German terrain defence.
Modified FP = 5
So, for example, like the German unit;
Prof FP = 5
+1 for being adjacent.
Now that = 6 which is the main FP and so the German player could not add any more Prof FP modifiers, such as for an Op Fire marker or spend a command point, but the FP could be further modified by any of the standard modifiers (moving in the open / adjacent).
Again, if you look at the next para in rule 9, you will see it says that once you have calculated the Prof FP as above, you then apply any of the standard modifiers.
Great - thanks Bob.
So if the German unit used a CP to start things off, opened fire on the adjacent Russian units, the FP would be 7?
PFP=5
+1PFP(adjacent)
+3(adjacent)
-2(stone building)
Glad you mentioned the last sentence - I was going to say couldn't you be fly on how you added the modifiers so that you ended up with the maximum...but the order is
Add Proficiency Modifiers (to the maximum of normal FP) ONLY for OpFire
Add Standard Modifiers
Remove defensive modifiers
Is that right?
Sorry to keep on - but I've had such long breaks between turns (real life) that I forget some of the rules and skim read - resulting in missing some small but important parts. For example, in my post where I struck my text out, I had forgotten that it was the proficiency fire power that was used!
Yes, you've got it right. Just remember to calc the Prof FP first, then all the other plus/minus modifiers afterwards. O0
Quote from: bob48 on October 23, 2016, 10:51:03 AM
Yes, you've got it right. Just remember to calc the Prof FP first, then all the other plus/minus modifiers afterwards. O0
Thanks pal. O0
Great AAR. O0
I am a bit confused as to why Bob didn't channel his attack H7-H4-G5, which would give him the benefit of a covered approach using the buildings even though he would have to cross the road? At least going from H7 to H4 he would not face a unit at point blank, thus having a better chance to get a toehold in cover and then set up a base of fire from G5 to support the attacks/lead the attacks to F5/E6?
I hope you do some more scenarios together. This one has been quite interesting.
Actually, I wasn't playing. Its a solo learning AAR - I was just adding gratuitous advice :-)
Bloody hell - I forgot about this!! The wife "carefully" moved it into the garage out the way when we had guests and it's been out of view for yonks!