Looks like this time instead of stupid fun, they're aiming for just stupid
I find the lack of Guillermo Del Toro's direction and visual style disturbing.
Looks like Power Rangers. Hope it's just the trailer.
I thought the first one looked stupid, but then I saw it anyway and really like it. Maybe this will be the same, but I agree, it does look like Power Rangers or maybe Transformers, and not the good one.
Wow.
Lots of loud special effects...check.
Asian market pandering...check.
Multicultural cast...check.
Forgettable rap track...check.
Charlie Day (e.g. "hey that creepy-ass guy from Always Sunny")...check.
I don't know. I actually thought Power Rangers was a decent movie. I completely expected it to be an utter pile of crap, but it wasn't half bad. Maybe this won't be, either.
What did you just say about the Power a Rangers?
Quote from: Gusington on October 06, 2017, 06:16:40 PM
What did you just say about the Power a Rangers?
You heard me...err...read me.
Check it out, you might like it. Then again, you might not.
I really liked the original, but I had faith in it from moment one due to the Del Toro factor. The guy's filmography is brilliant and I was sure he was going to put every ounce of effort into the original Pacific Rim, and I feel he did. It was a love letter to the genre and while it was most surely his most shallow movie, his touch is what takes it to a cult classic.
This one's got the same writer, but this time we're getting a director, Stephen DeKnight, that is mostly known for TV (Spartacus/Daredevil). He seems to be opting for over the top action and candy color anime, at least from the trailer. I liked some of the stuff the guy did on TV, but I'm not about to give him anywhere the amount of leeway I did Del Toro as a filmmaker.
It's hard to judge anything from trailers though. If it's got the heart of the first film I'll probably love it. We'll see.
They brought back Burn Gorman at least. Maybe Ron Perlman will show up with his missing shoe?
Quote from: Staggerwing on October 06, 2017, 06:34:34 PM
They brought back Burn Gorman at least. Maybe Ron Perlman will show up with his missing shoe?
Maybe, but Perlman is another Del Toro staple. The two are extremely tight and have been since Cronos. I wouldn't be surprised if he skips out since Legendary didn't go fast enough to keep Del Toro involved.
The original score from the guy (Ramin Djuwarisomething) who wrote the Iron Man 1 music (also great) and the Game of Thrones theme (ditto), was a legitiamtely iconic part of the original film.
Now it's back (apparently?) :bd: ! -- and improved with bad rap. :timeout: :hide:
(And bad rap which sounds like it's praising Legendary Pictures, too.)
These trailers are not getting better
I get the feeling they're taking themselves and the movie far, far too seriously now.
Unfortunately, I am going to have to see it with the kids.
Quote from: mirth on January 24, 2018, 01:18:34 PM
Unfortunately, I am going to have to see it with the kids.
there are worse fates mirth....
Quote from: Windigo on January 24, 2018, 01:48:04 PM
Quote from: mirth on January 24, 2018, 01:18:34 PM
Unfortunately, I am going to have to see it with the kids.
there are worse fates mirth....
And don't I know it.
Quote from: mirth on January 24, 2018, 01:50:01 PM
Quote from: Windigo on January 24, 2018, 01:48:04 PM
Quote from: mirth on January 24, 2018, 01:18:34 PM
Unfortunately, I am going to have to see it with the kids.
there are worse fates mirth....
And don't I know it.
so you have seen Bette Midler in concert....
That's one horror I have been spared from
I don't understand why they don't just call the Transformers to handle the giant ocean monsters? Is it a contractual thing?
And how many times is China going to get f'd up before the Chinese government starts complaining about how weak they're being portrayed?
I mean, they took severe umbrage to being the antagonists in a major film about invading the United States...a fictional, make believe tale.
What was great about the first film was that Del Toro managed to give it a lot of weight and awe. Everything seemed heavy and real, and the Jagers felt like what they were, engines of destruction.
The new trailer is just more candy colored blithering action. Every bit of nuance and care that Del Toro put in the first movie seems to be excised.
Yeah, not feeling it.
As long as we get a new soundtrack that properly respects the asskicking themes of the original, I almost don't care how blithering the new film is.
Quote from: JasonPratt on January 25, 2018, 01:34:08 PM
As long as we get a new soundtrack
The generic rap song they have playing loudly over everything doesn't bode well for anything that intriguing.
Your tastes may vary of course.
This may not be totally awful (which is good because I'm going with my kids on Sunday)
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/21/movies/pacific-rim-uprising-review-john-boyega.html
Early reviews are variable, but I remain moderately hopeful. I'm willing to respect a script that swings for the parking lot in expanding the lore, at least in principle.
If it's even passably good, I'll consider it a win.
Quote from: mirth on March 22, 2018, 07:22:28 PM
If it's even passably good, I'll consider it a win.
Hell if it is watchable I think it would be considered a victory. I mean del toro is literally the only thing that saved the first movie.
Idris Elba saved the first movie.
So I should take the time to see the first one?
You should. It's the best 'dumb' movie I've seen in awhile. Waaaaaaaay more fun than the Transformer movies.
Never seen any of the Transformer movies except for the 1986 animated film with the naughty words.
I get the feeling my daughters would enjoy Pacific Rim.
It's pretty good, Gus. And Charlie Hunnam is a bad ass always.
Quote from: Gusington on March 23, 2018, 09:07:36 AM
Never seen any of the Transformer movies except for the 1986 animated film with the naughty words.
I get the feeling my daughters would enjoy Pacific Rim.
My kids love it. They've watched the DVD dozens of times.
I have nothing but praise for the first film. Despite the stereotypical plot -- the plot still does its job.
It was a very fun movie. Nothing to think about too deeply, just good, cheesy sci-fi fun.
It was ridiculous, but it had giant robots punching giant space monsters in the face. That's the sort of ridiculous that I can get behind.
Giant Robot using oil tanker as a club to smash Giant Monster = Winning!
Moviebob and I have our differences, but we stand united on the important topic of Pacific Rim's value.
QuoteOh, oh, I'm sorry, are we feeling bad for ourselves? -- are we grappling with the moral greys of heroism? -- are we struggling with the proper use of our power in a complex world?
"Okay, how about this? BIG ASS MONSTER, RIGHT OVER THERE! GET OVER YOUR $#!T AND PUNCH IT IN THE FACE! PUNCH! IT! IN! THE! FACE!
Four years later and I still remember that quote almost word for word.
Now I'm kinda stoked to see the new one :P
8.99 to buy it on Amazon. Dare I?
Do it!
Forgot I had some gift money left over on Amazon. And it's 71% on Rotten ToMAHtoes! Done.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/pacific_rim_2013
Sweet!
I never even thought to watch this with the kids. Have to watch Gladiator first, then this.
You're going to watch Gladiator with the kids?
WILL THEY NOT BE ENTERTAINED?! -- at least by the gay giraffes?
(Note: check that first by showing them the Domnia AAR. :hide: )
The Asylum just needs to stop.
Quote from: Gusington on March 23, 2018, 04:40:35 PM
8.99 to buy it on Amazon. Dare I?
I hope you didn't buy it for 8.99. I'm seeing it for 4.99 on Amazon right now. ;D
^F*CK YOU SAY?? Yeah I got it for 8.99 but with gifted credit.
I was thinking of watching Gladiator with my 12 year old, and then the 9 year old said she wanted to watch too.
I don't really remember anything too racy in Gladiator other than the epic violence. Older daughter is studying ancient history right now and thought she would be in to it.
That's weird. I went ahead and got it last night too...for $4.99. Streaming, not DVD. Did you get streaming?
YES...and it still shows up as 8.99. Must be a regional thing.
I don't think there's anything racier than the standard sword-and-sandal epics of yore.
Pacific Rim, meanwhile, has a little harsh language, but that's mostly reserved for the scenes with Ron Perleman.
Saw PacRimUpri with Dad this afternoon. I went in with low expectations, and those were well-exceeded. My main complaint is that it's practically worse to include a LITTLE of the iconic original music, because that reminds the audience that you really could have included more of it if you weren't shaving pennies somewhere. But the money is up there on the screen. John Boyega does a fairer job as the main protagonist than whoever was in the first film (although he's fine, too). I kind of guessed the twist from earlier non-spoiler reviews, and I agree with them that the twist is telegraphed a little too clearly a little too early.
Quote from: JasonPratt on March 24, 2018, 05:05:41 PMwhoever was in the first film (although he's fine, too).
Dude... that was 'Jax Teller' (Charlie Hunnam)!
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Quote from: Gusington on March 24, 2018, 11:06:38 AM
I don't really remember anything too racy in Gladiator other than the epic violence. Older daughter is studying ancient history right now and thought she would be in to it.
Violence, patricide, incest. Nothing too bad :P
She's gotta learn about those things some time.
:/
If you get a PS2 emulator (there are some nice ones around, assuming you don't have an actual PS2) you can point her to the fantasy gladiator game from Lucasarts (with all the quality that implies), GLADIUS!
She can play a barbarian princess, traveling the not-Roman Empire to set up a gladiator team, and falling in love with a down-on-his-luck Roman patrician's son while she's at it. O:-)
One bad parenting decision at a time.
Trying to get through Pacific Rim since last night but have had way too many things to do in the last two days. I'd forgotten how much fun this movie is.
The new one was pretty dumb even by the standard of the original. There was a somewhat interesting concept behind the main villain, but that's about it. It lacked the Del Toro flair of the first one, but it was still fun at a certain level. Definitely more enjoyable than most of the Transformer movies. The few characters returning from the first movie were welcome additions.
This thing went very hard after the Asian market. Lots of characters, locales, product placement (at one point the male leads were enjoying a couple of Tsingtao beers).
Don't rush out to see it in a theater, but it's worth a watch as a rental if you liked the first one.
They left the door wide open to a third, but I can't see why they'd bother unless this thing does really well overseas.
To clarify the sequel hook, they set up for a concluding film as a trilogy, but the story is basically done in this film. It's purely a reasonable hook based on story developments (and an unresolved problem which doesn't strictly ever have to be resolved).
I didn't think the film was especially dumb, by film standards. ;) I'm sensitive to aggressively stupid screenplays (SEE MY TOMES ON THE DARK KNIGHT AND GODZILLA2014) and I got through this one fine. Some points of the plot could have been presented better -- which might be an editing problem here. At one point for example there seems to be an implication that all the monsters from part 1 were trying to get to Mount Fuji, but in hindsight that wasn't what the scene meant. But it was edited (or maybe shot) in such a way that it seemed to be saying this. That annoyed me but I worked it out later.
My favorite bit of product placement wasn't necessarily product placement at all, but probably an homage: a few shots during the climactic fight occur just outside "Anaheim Electronics" in Tokyo! -- complete with a statue of the original RX Gundam outside!
It was dumb. Maybe not by modern sci-fi/fantasy movie standards, but that's a low bar indeed. They throw around science mumbo-jumbo faster and looser than Geordi LaForge in Engineering. I give most of it a pass because it's giant robots battling giant monsters. It's supposed to be dumb.
I noticed the Gundam statue (it's acknowledged in the credits as well) . It was a nice bit of homage.
Seriously people. WTF is wrong with you lot.
I've posted on here about various "great" and "good" movies and they get luke warm to poor reviews - and you are banging on about how good Pacific Rim is?
When I first watched Pacific Rim back in 2014 it was shite. As my daughter wanted to go and see the other one (I refused), I said I'd watch the original with her stating "maybe it wasn't as bad as I remember". Hell yes it was. Complete and utter shite.
I'm going to write on this bat :knuppel2: "You are not allowed to go and see any movies EVER anymore" and visit every last one of you :smitten:
You have to take it in the context of why/how it was made. It's a throw-back to the cheesy Kaiju movies of old. It captures the spirit of those movies and gives it the treatment of modern VFX and production values. It's dumb fun, that's all.
The second one is more of the same. These are pure popcorn movies made for nine year olds and the inner nine year old of us old nerds who grew up watching Creature Double Feature.
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I'm going to write on this bat :knuppel2: "You are not allowed to go and see any movies EVER anymore" and visit every last one of you :smitten:
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And since JP brought up The Dark Knight Rises (a movie I also thought was incredibly dumb), I re-watched it this weekend with my son.
While I think there are still major dumb parts (the opening sequence still bugs me - no competent crash investigator was going to be fooled by that staged crash), it's grown on me as dumb fun entertainment. The score alone makes it worthwhile.
Just watched the first one with my younger daughter. Definitely enjoyable to watch with kids. We both dug it. Even had a little bit of a steampunk vibe in spots.
Quote from: Gusington on March 25, 2018, 04:48:50 PM
Just watched the first one with my younger daughter. Definitely enjoyable to watch with kids. We both dug it. Even had a little bit of a steampunk vibe in spots.
Hadn't thought about that. Rustpunk?
Quote from: mirth on March 25, 2018, 03:29:39 PM
It was dumb. Maybe not by modern sci-fi/fantasy movie standards, but that's a low bar indeed. They throw around science mumbo-jumbo faster and looser than Geordi LaForge in Engineering. I give most of it a pass because it's giant robots battling giant monsters. It's supposed to be dumb.
Not once did I hear something equivalent to a character equating "analog" with "nuclear". That was in the first film, and it makes my soul die every time I hear it -- it's like explaining a plot point because Tuesday is Cheesburger. Much less that clearly the whole robot is crawling with digital (not "analog") hologram tech. Improvement achieved. :bd:
^I can count to potato.
PAC Rim 2 was fine. The only really unforgivable thing was the enemies objective, which could have been easily attained by a flying Monster in the very first movie's prologue.
True, albeit jet fighters might have proven a problem. (They did to the first movie's prologue.) But then, the franchise has always struggled with why serious ordinance beyond a few gatlings and some missiles from three jets wouldn't have been used. Keep B52s on a NORAD watch around the clock like in the old days, BUFF those things.
Admittedly, that wouldn't have solved the problem with closing the breach -- still needed giant robots for that. Which reminds me, the main protagonists should have never been able to get out either (no kaiju DNA to scan going out!)
Quote from: JasonPratt on March 27, 2018, 07:57:11 AM
True, albeit jet fighters might have proven a problem. (They did to the first movie's prologue.) But then, the franchise has always struggled with why serious ordinance beyond a few gatlings and some missiles from three jets wouldn't have been used. Keep B52s on a NORAD watch around the clock like in the old days, BUFF those things.
Admittedly, that wouldn't have solved the problem with closing the breach -- still needed giant robots for that. Which reminds me, the main protagonists should have never been able to get out either (no kaiju DNA to scan going out!)
The first time a Kaiju appeared, it was a surprise. No one was prepared for it. So, if they popped a flying Kaiju on day 1; their ultimate objective would have been achieved by total surprise. Sure, one could argue that the first ones were scouts; but still....
:nerd: :nerd: :nerd:
Admittedly, by the time of the first double-event, at the showstopping battle of the first film (...analog = nuclear AAHH AHHHHHH IT BURRRNNNSSS!) the world wasn't using fighter jets anymore anyway, so the flying critter should have been able to do the deed practically unmolested.
For that matter, what the flying kaiju did focus on instead, opens up another plot hole generated by the second film... #:-)
Watched this yesterday. It wasn't as fun as the first movie but it wasn't bad, either. I liked a couple of the angles they took, and there was at least one surprise I didn't see coming, which I always appreciate. Worth a watch if/when it comes to Netflix or Prime.
Loved the first one, hated the second one. This one was clearly marketed to spy kids fans.
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^don't over use that :P
Too late.
I thought it was a standard.
Quote from: BanzaiCat on April 23, 2018, 01:35:48 PM
I thought it was a standard.
Perhaps it could be embedded into the Grogheads flag?
We have a flag? I thought those were Bob's old pantaloons flying in the breeze.
One and the same.