Consolidated Syria Conflict Thread

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Grimnirsson

Would you trust an American youtube video?  ;)
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mirth

Quote from: Grimnirsson on October 07, 2015, 12:10:01 PM
Would you trust an American youtube video?  ;)

Of what? And what does that have to do with the topic at hand?

If you want to accept a Russian propaganda video at face value, go for it.
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LongBlade

Quote from: mirth on October 07, 2015, 12:16:31 PM
Quote from: Grimnirsson on October 07, 2015, 12:10:01 PM
Would you trust an American youtube video?  ;)

Of what? And what does that have to do with the topic at hand?

If you want to accept a Russian propaganda video at face value, go for it.

He's right. Everything on the internet is true.
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

mirth

Quote from: LongBlade on October 07, 2015, 12:18:53 PM
Quote from: mirth on October 07, 2015, 12:16:31 PM
Quote from: Grimnirsson on October 07, 2015, 12:10:01 PM
Would you trust an American youtube video?  ;)

Of what? And what does that have to do with the topic at hand?

If you want to accept a Russian propaganda video at face value, go for it.

He's right. Everything on the internet is true.

Whoops. My bad! :P
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"you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire" - Bawb

"Can't 'un' until you 'pre', son." - Gus

Grimnirsson

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Airborne Rifles

To assume that the Russian's can't hit the broad side of a barn with their missiles would be a dangerous misunderestimation (as GWB would say  ;)) of their capabilities. They've made leaps of improvement in their capabilities since they last showcased it in Georgia in 2008. I'm by no means smart on the specifics, but it's never a good idea to underestimate your foe. I don't think they would have showcased this to the world if they weren't relatively confident it would put on a good show.

What I'm troubled by is that they crossed Iraqi airspace. Were the Iraqis consulted?

Bison

Yeah I'm with AB on this one. 

I wouldn't be surprised if the Maliki government approved of the flyover of Iraqi airspace tbh.

mirth

I'm not saying they lack the capability. I'm just not inclined to accept that YouTube video as actual proof.

And yes, I find the overflight of Iraqis airspace disquieting. I'm a little bit surprised the Iranians went for it too. There's a big message behind launching that attack from the Caspian.
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Bison

No there's clearly propaganda going on with it's publishing and I'm more inclined to be believe it's more intended for domestic than international consumption.  It's been a few decades since the last overt Russian interventionist military actions.

Grimnirsson

QuoteI'm not saying they lack the capability. I'm just not inclined to accept that YouTube video as actual proof.

So you doubt their capability at least...
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Bison

Quote from: Grimnirsson on October 07, 2015, 12:58:35 PM
QuoteI'm not saying they lack the capability. I'm just not inclined to accept that YouTube video as actual proof.

So you doubt their capability at least...

He didn't say he doubted that they have capability. 

mirth

Quote from: Bison on October 07, 2015, 01:00:39 PM
Quote from: Grimnirsson on October 07, 2015, 12:58:35 PM
QuoteI'm not saying they lack the capability. I'm just not inclined to accept that YouTube video as actual proof.

So you doubt their capability at least...

He didn't say he doubted that they have capability. 

Thanks. I was wondering how that was unclear.
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"you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire" - Bawb

"Can't 'un' until you 'pre', son." - Gus

mirth

Quote from: Bison on October 07, 2015, 12:58:14 PM
No there's clearly propaganda going on with it's publishing and I'm more inclined to be believe it's more intended for domestic than international consumption.  It's been a few decades since the last overt Russian interventionist military actions.

That was my take away too. There's a lot of Russian propaganda stuff that we roll our eyes at, but we're not the intended audience. It just needs to convince the folks in the Motherland.
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pawelj

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Quote from: Grimnirsson on October 07, 2015, 12:00:13 PM
So, Russian military operations can't be precise? Ok...
Nyet!
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pawelj

If those missiles flew over Iran and Iraq they were not fired from the Med. Was it from Caspian sea?
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