Nork Nukes Nearing Nuisance?

Started by bayonetbrant, March 14, 2017, 11:39:26 AM

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bayonetbrant

just curious - has their been any country that's voluntarily given up their nukes in public and not been invaded or attacked by someone afterwards?
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OJsDad

Quote from: bayonetbrant on August 14, 2017, 08:15:47 AM
just curious - has their been any country that's voluntarily given up their nukes in public and not been invaded or attacked by someone afterwards?

South Africa.
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bayonetbrant

Quote from: OJsDad on August 14, 2017, 08:16:42 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on August 14, 2017, 08:15:47 AM
just curious - has their been any country that's voluntarily given up their nukes in public and not been invaded or attacked by someone afterwards?

South Africa.

did they give them up?
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mirth

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bayonetbrant

OK, so that's one.

And the one that was likely safest giving them up since their biggest 'threat' when they had them was being surrounded by majority-black-rule nations while they were still practicing apartheid.

All of the others? Libya, Norks, Ukraine, India, Pakistan, Israel - not exactly swimming in a sea of friends there, huh?
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mirth

Quote from: bayonetbrant on August 14, 2017, 10:17:34 AM
OK, so that's one.

That's pretty much what you asked for.

Quotejust curious - has their been any country that's voluntarily given up their nukes in public and not been invaded or attacked by someone afterwards?
"45 minutes of pooping Tribbles being juggled by a drunken Horta would be better than Season 1 of TNG." - SirAndrewD

"you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire" - Bawb

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mirth

Belarus also gave up their nukes. Taiwan was dissuaded from pursuing it's nuke program.
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"you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire" - Bawb

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Gusington

Was it voluntary in Belarus or more like Russia taking them back as quickly as possible at some point after 1991?


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mirth

Quote from: Gusington on August 14, 2017, 10:26:28 AM
Was it voluntary in Belarus or more like Russia taking them back as quickly as possible at some point after 1991?

The Russians didn't get them all back until '96 so I'm guessing there was some negotiation.
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Gusington

In Soviet Russia nuclear warhead negotiates for you.


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mirth

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"you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire" - Bawb

"Can't 'un' until you 'pre', son." - Gus

mirth

Kazakhstan also gave theirs up and they had the world's fourth largest nuclear arsenal for a while.


http://thediplomat.com/2015/04/kazakhstan-nuclear-weapons-free-for-20-years/
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Gusington

I wonder under what kind of threats from Russia did these former Soviet republics give up their nukes...


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bayonetbrant

Quote from: mirth on August 14, 2017, 10:19:53 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on August 14, 2017, 10:17:34 AM
OK, so that's one.

That's pretty much what you asked for.

Quotejust curious - has their been any country that's voluntarily given up their nukes in public and not been invaded or attacked by someone afterwards?

It is exactly what I asked for.  I didn't realize there were any.
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mirth

Quote from: Gusington on August 14, 2017, 10:42:20 AM
I wonder under what kind of threats from Russia did these former Soviet republics give up their nukes...

I think it was more in the way of inducements than threats. Difficult to seriously threaten a country with 1400 nukes. I wouldn't be surprised if we kicked some $$ their way.
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