Russia's War Against Ukraine

[Gusington]

'Jesus,' on that last one.

[GDS_Starfury]

so PAC-3 Patriots can shot down hypersonic missiles?.............

[FarAway Sooner]

Technically, a bird can shoot down a hypersonic missile if it hits it the right way...

[Pete Dero]

Declassified Documents Concerning Russian President Boris Yeltsin (Clinton Library)



Sounds like Russia would end up at this point sooner or later, with or without Putin.

[Gusington]

^I think I read more of that conversation in Lenin's Tomb by David Remnick or Fire Bird by Andrei Kozyrev. Maybe a little in both.

[JasonPratt]

Putin's list of allies grows thin... (for now.)

[Skoop]

so PAC-3 Patriots can shot down hypersonic missiles?.............

I think like the T14 armata, things made in Russia aren't unstoppable super weapons like the Russians want us to believe.  Russians are great with arms show hype, seeing them perform in the world is an entirely different mater.

[Gusington]

^Most of the time, I agree with that.

Every now and then Russians build some legendary things. Like Hind helicopters.

[Sir Slash]

That's true. But I understand that things in Russia are now so bad, that broken clocks aren't even right once a day.

[GDS_Starfury]

russian defensive works.
those fucks have been digging a lot of trenches.

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[FarAway Sooner]

I'm not at all disappointed in the Ukrainians, because they're fighting for their existence and so far they've more than held their own against a country 3 times as large with a gigantic army.  But I do wonder if the Ukrainian counteroffensive will come, or if it will live up to the hype?

They face an uphill slog against an enemy who's shown no hesitation to trade lives for miles.  We all know that's even easier on defense than it is on offense.  Europe and the US have both dallied in sharing the appropriate weapon systems with them on a timely basis.

I hope the Ukrainians kick the snot out of the Russians.  I'm just waiting to see it.

[Gusington]

^I hear that. All we can do on the sidelines here is watch and wait.

[Skoop]

I think the Russian air is the main thing I'd worry about in the counter offensive.  I'd hate to see a brilliant Ukrainian break through get ground to a halt by unchecked bombing.  I'd feel alot better if we had gotten them those F16s 9 months ago, so they were operational now.

[FarAway Sooner]

Yeah, I'm not sure that the F-16s are the answer to Russian air superiority, but I share your concerns about the Russian Air Force.  Wars are never fought by single weapon systems.  They're fought by complex systems of complementary weapons on each side. 

Thus, the planes you're talking about could be a deadly menace to Ukrainian tanks that make it more than 5 or 10 miles beyond the range of their SAM support.

[Crossroads]

That's true. But I understand that things in Russia are now so bad, that broken clocks aren't even right once a day.

According to this article (pic: @SovietSergey), no quick fixes for their arms production. Systemic corruption etc.



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