Russia's War Against Ukraine

[GDS_Starfury]

a bit about Ukraine training in Germany, seems to be from last winter.

https://threadreaderapp-com.translate.goog/thread/1679198812483514396.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US

[JasonPratt]

Some updates from Business Basics, 11 hours ago.

The big news is that Wagner got within an ace of acquiring tactical nukes, down to backsize level, at Voronezh-45. But he absolutely positively for sure didn't get any such things and then dissolve his group to scatter to the four winds, nope!

 

[Uberhaus]

There were doubts that "backpack" nuclear weapons were there and even more that they would be in working order.  There were more doubts that Wagner had anyone present that could assemble and make any weapon operational.
From Reuters:  https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/exclusive-wagner-fighters-neared-russian-nuclear-base-during-revolt/ar-AA1dGu5s?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=d4887fcd34cf46e0905b7603775239fb&ei=94

[JasonPratt]

That's a relief!

I was just thinking, one of George Clooney's best films was Peacemaker, a Tom Clancy-ish story about the effort to stop someone (kind of a sympathetic antagonist all things considered) planning to build and detonate a backpack nuke, in New York City iirc.

Excellent score from fairly early in Hans Zimmer's career, too!

[Gusington]

^OMFG it is one of my fears coming true. I feel like it's only a matter of time and where the nuke will be used. 

[Sir Slash]

That's the real, Sum of All Fears isn't it? What's scarier than Putin with nukes? Prigo with nukes. 

[Gusington]

^Or some schmuck with a nuclear backpack running through the streets.

[Windigo]

Given the state of leadership in Russia, I wouldn't be surprised if several backpacks are missing and that several oligarchs have them as insurance against falling out of windows.

[Gusington]

 

[GDS_Starfury]

calm down Gus, I'm sure NYC is covered in radiological sensors and alarms.

[Gusington]

Would those sensors/alarms give enough time to save people?

I'm an hour away from NYC anyway and 10 minutes from West Point. Who knows what kind of sensors they have or if they would be any more helpful.

We were laid low and crippled by heavy thunderstorms three days ago. I shudder at the thought of a loose nuke.

[Sir Slash]

I think traffic's so bad, it'd take 3-4 days to get downtown to detonate a nuke. Then the guy'd probably get robbed before he could set the bomb down good.

[Gusington]

Honestly more worried that a nuke will go off in eastern Europe somewhere. The math of it seems realistic.

[W8taminute]

And I'm 2.5 hours away from NYC.  If something terrible happened there maybe I wouldn't die on the day of, but certainly I would die from sickness weeks or days later. 

I also heard that the coast guard shutdown most of the east coast yesterday searching for something.  Can't seem to find any non-prepper (i.e. mainstream) news sources to confirm. 

[Gusington]

^wut