Russian Pressure on the Baltics

[Gusington]

BTW the Russians and Germans carved up Poland in '39...and for months the West was quiet...the phoney war. US didn't enter the war until directly attacked by Japan in 41. Come on now, John Belushi...

[mirth]

Yeah. I know. But tell the Ukranians about ethnic issues. Uncle Joe and the commies did a pretty good number on the Ukrainians in the 20s-30s. And where should we be drawing the line?  The Baltics? Poland? Do we say too bad to actual NATO member states? You're in the Russian sphere of influence..do syvdania.

[Gusington]

I'm not sure exactly where the line is but Ukraine isn't it. I understand the idea of just not accepting their shenanigans from the get-go but I am questioning how valid we are. There's already hot wars going on that could lead to serious run-in with Russia (Syria), do we really need it in Ukraine too?

[Gusington]

Actual NATO member states is key here too, I think. Defend NATO members, of course, or NATO sinks altogether.

[mirth]

I think we could do more to help Ukraine, short of 'getting into it'.

And we have no business dicking around in Syria. Let the CIA handle it. It's a proxy fight and a no-win scenario.

[Gusington]

 But...BUT...the humanity will in Syria!! I do agree Syria is a giant shit sandwich. Ukraine is a much smaller one. Also - I think there are hawt women in both.

[mirth]

I fully support the defense of hawt women.

[bayonetbrant]

didn't we cover all this over a year ago?
http://grogheads.com/?podcast=the-grogcast-episode-7

[mirth]

You keep out of this! :P

[OJsDad]

didn't we cover all this over a year ago?
http://grogheads.com/?podcast=the-grogcast-episode-7

You expect any of us to remember that far back   ::)

[Gusington]

Pfft really.

Anyway hawt Mediterranean women vs. hawt a Eastern European women...discuss.

[Staggerwing]

Pfft really.

Anyway hawt Mediterranean women vs. hawt a Eastern European women...discuss.

There's just that certain something about a woman with a Slavic accent and black ops training...

[mirth]

Every woman I've ever been involved with has had Black Ops training. Or at least, Dark Arts training.

[Sir Slash]

I believe the Ukraine doesn't want the US to fight the Russians for them. I think they want to be able to fight for themselves if need be and for us to help them with at least decent arms. Afghanistan wasn't our sphere either and we helped them plenty when Dutch Reagan was Prez. and didn't get into a shooting war with Russia then. And all hawt women should have Black Ops. training. Especially if they're involved with Mirth.

[mirth]

And all hawt women should have Black Ops. training. Especially if they're involved with Mirth.

QFT