Who's signing up?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-military-space/trump-signs-directive-in-step-to-create-us-space-force-idUSKCN1Q82H2
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HA!
I'm in. How's the retirement?
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 19, 2019, 11:33:58 PM
I'm in. How's the retirement?
Admit it, you're in it for the spandex :hide:
OMG there's a lot of memes on this going way back.
Am I pre-empting the Friday thread again by posting this music video?
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This is the dumbest damn thing yet, and that is saying a lot.
Quote from: jomni on February 20, 2019, 07:12:17 AM
OMG there's a lot of memes on this going way back.
That was so great! -- needs a Showa Era version though. (War of the Planets; the Mysterians; Godzilla vs Monster X; Destroy All Monsters)
This has to be the dumbest shit I've ever seen. How many people are truly suffering in our country and this hillbilly redneck wants to make sure the Skrulls or the Kree never invade our country. Jesus H Joseph and Mary....the US gov't (yes, a slight generalization) has to be the biggest fucking cesspool on this planet.
Quote from: acctingman on February 20, 2019, 09:34:28 AM
This has to be the dumbest shit I've ever seen. How many people are truly suffering in our country and this hillbilly redneck wants to make sure the Skrulls or the Kree never invade our country. Jesus H Joseph and Mary....the US gov't (yes, a slight generalization) has to be the biggest fucking cesspool on this planet.
Word. I do disagree about him being a hillbilly redneck as those kinds of folks I can deal with (as they do comprise most of my family). More like, "bloviating, Yankee carpetbagger," in my eyes.
I'm thinking we can solve this problem if we just build, 'The Wall'. And make it really, really tall.
No. We need "The Roof".
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 20, 2019, 11:19:50 AM
I'm thinking we can solve this problem if we just build, 'The Wall'. And make it really, really tall.
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And then what about the underground aliens? How you gonna stop them when they tunnel up from their secret base under Mt. Rushmore? OH! Wait, you're all not supposed to know about that. #:-) Quick, everybody pretend we're still talking about the Space Force.
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 20, 2019, 03:49:21 PM
And then what about the underground aliens? How you gonna stop them when they tunnel up from their secret base under Mt. Rushmore? OH! Wait, you're all not supposed to know about that. #:-) Quick, everybody pretend we're still talking about the Space Force.
Don't be foolish. There are no underground aliens. How can there be when the earth is flat?
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 20, 2019, 03:49:21 PM
And then what about the underground aliens? How you gonna stop them when they tunnel up from their secret base under Mt. Rushmore? OH! Wait, you're all not supposed to know about that. #:-) Quick, everybody pretend we're still talking about the Space Force.
No issues. We just build "The Floor".
And now we're reaching 7 Days to Die territory.
Quote from: DoctorQuest on February 20, 2019, 11:26:58 AM
No. We need "The Roof".
Quote from: DoctorQuest on February 20, 2019, 04:31:41 PM
No issues. We just build "The Floor".
And how long into the procurement&production phase will we go before someone points out that the designers forgot to include "The Bathroom"?
I'm pretty sure this thread just won the internet for the day.
Brother Grogs, I salute you! :notworthy:
I would like to plead a case for a special steel clad 15 ft. barrier fenced 'Mother-In-Law' room if I may. Thank you. <:-)
https://www.foxnews.com/science/space-force-satellite-launches-from-cape-canaveral
Its official, because USA SF has a flag. O0 (flag unfurling at ~2:28 mark). I thought we wuz done using roman numerals as dates...
In space, no one can hear you unfurl.
Gotta look up that gobblygook in the middle of Chief's rank patch there.
All we need now is that huge, 2 person Air Force sword to make in to the pic for maximum cringe.
Vandenberg Air Force Base to Be Renamed Vandenberg Space Force Base (https://www.newsmax.com/us/vandenberg-base-rename-air-force/2021/05/14/id/1021423/)
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Space Force, the sixth and newest branch of the US military, unveiled its official song today.
I never know whether to take memes like this seriously or not.
Not very catchy but you can dance to it.
Semper Supra Uber Alles?
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on September 23, 2022, 10:45:52 AM
I never know whether to take memes like this seriously or not.
Not a meme.
Somehow the theme is just missing something... photon torpedoes? lasers? or burning meteors perhaps?
For comparison, the theme of the US Army Air Corps:
Off we go into the wild blue yonder,
Climbing high into the sun;
Here they come zooming to meet our thunder,
At 'em boys, give 'er the gun
Down we dive spouting our flame from under
Off with one helluva roar!
We live in fame or go down in flame, hey!
Nothing'll stop the Army Air Corps!
Now there's a tune I could dance to. Even sober.
To be fair, anything they tried to produce would look like a meme. As long as it's awesome, that's the best we can hope for.
At least it sounds traditional instead of new-agey!
I think the problem the Space Force has is that it hasn't really accomplished anything publicly notable yet. No hard fought battles, no triumphs against great odds, no tremendous sacrifice that won the battle in the last hour. All the other services have this and are generally featured in their songs.
Imagine years from now after they've fought battles in space. Once they've set attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. When they've watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate...then, The Space Force shall have a glorious song.
I was kinda hoping they would use this ;D
Re: Space Boyz Theme Song
Sweet Jesus, it's getting worse.
Quote from: Tripoli on September 23, 2022, 03:50:22 PM
I was kinda hoping they would use this ;D
:-\ :-\ While that would be acceptable, I prefer the opening music from ST:DS9. Show may not have been as good, but I like the music better... O0
The obvious music for the Space Force is the Imperial March from Star Wars. Heck, i'd go join today! And if all recruits got a spiffy stormtrooper suit, enrollment would soar! Eat your heart out Army!
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 23, 2022, 03:40:42 PM
I think the problem the Space Force has is that it hasn't really accomplished anything publicly notable yet. No hard fought battles, no triumphs against great odds, no tremendous sacrifice that won the battle in the last hour. All the other services have this and are generally featured in their songs.
Im pretty sure all of their wins are pretty classified just like they were when it was Space Command.
"Space Force-- We do more in nine orbits than most people do all day".
joke all you want, these are the people that are running the X-37b program and it's fucking spectacular.
I thought DS-9 was an awfully well crafted show. Not nearly as revolutionary as the original series, but the execution was crisp and it offered a much more nuanced, real-life glimpse into that future universe than anything offered in the other series. The latter seasons were particularly strong, with a well-developed story line and some very carefully grown characters.
That said, my thinking is that this one did NOT make the short list of theme songs for The Space Force.
I've heard a lot of talk regarding how the first few minutes of the next great war will decide the fate of nations such has never been seen before.
The first one to knock out all of the other guys satellites wins. Mix in a well placed barrage of EMPs and the loser has no chance of ever recovering.
I'm glad my nation has a space force, never mind the theme song is kind of baby'ish.
I've heard that same talk. I don't know enough to agree or disagree, but it does sound like the kind of axiomatic Douhet theories that defined major powers' approach to air power leading up to WW II.
The reality that emerged was a lot more... complicated. But we obviously still really needed an air force to win that war!
Quote from: W8taminute on September 29, 2022, 01:14:00 PM
I've heard a lot of talk regarding how the first few minutes of the next great war will decide the fate of nations such has never been seen before.
The first one to knock out all of the other guys satellites wins. Mix in a well placed barrage of EMPs and the loser has no chance of ever recovering.
https://www.spacefoundation.org/space_brief/international-space-law/
There is no claim for sovereignty in space; no nation can "own" space, the Moon or any other body. Weapons of mass destruction are forbidden in orbit and beyond, and the Moon, the planets, and other celestial bodies can only be used for peaceful purposes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty#List_of_parties
Another worthless piece of paper.
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on September 29, 2022, 01:17:43 PM
I've heard that same talk. I don't know enough to agree or disagree, but it does sound like the kind of axiomatic Douhet theories that defined major powers' approach to air power leading up to WW II.
The reality that emerged was a lot more... complicated. But we obviously still really needed an air force to win that war!
I've been thinking sort of the same thing lately. Blitzkrieg in WW2 when it was introduced to the world seemed unstoppable. Eventually man adapted and was able to counter it. Will we have enough time to figure out how to counter space attacks?
Which leads me to...
Quote from: Pete Dero on September 29, 2022, 01:35:18 PM
Quote from: W8taminute on September 29, 2022, 01:14:00 PM
I've heard a lot of talk regarding how the first few minutes of the next great war will decide the fate of nations such has never been seen before.
The first one to knock out all of the other guys satellites wins. Mix in a well placed barrage of EMPs and the loser has no chance of ever recovering.
https://www.spacefoundation.org/space_brief/international-space-law/
There is no claim for sovereignty in space; no nation can "own" space, the Moon or any other body. Weapons of mass destruction are forbidden in orbit and beyond, and the Moon, the planets, and other celestial bodies can only be used for peaceful purposes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty#List_of_parties
Another worthless piece of paper.
Yes you're correct. I noticed that there are two major powers that acceded to the treaty but not ratified it. So see even right there they're saying yeah we know we're not supposed to kill people in outer space but whatever.
Just to check on my own research and understanding, Can anyone explain the legal difference between accession and ratification when it comes to treaties?
Quote from: W8taminute on September 29, 2022, 02:35:38 PM
Just to check on my own research and understanding, Can anyone explain the legal difference between accession and ratification when it comes to treaties?
https://ask.un.org/faq/14594
Ratification
Ratification defines the international act whereby a state indicates its
consent to be bound to a treaty if the parties intended to show their consent by such an act. In the case of bilateral treaties, ratification is usually accomplished by exchanging the requisite instruments, while in the case of multilateral treaties the usual procedure is for the depositary to collect the ratifications of all states, keeping all parties informed of the situation. The institution of ratification grants states the necessary time-frame to seek the required approval for the treaty on the domestic level and to enact the necessary legislation to give domestic effect to that treaty.
Accession
"Accession" is the act whereby a state accepts the offer or the opportunity to
become a party to a treaty already negotiated and signed by other states. It has the
same legal effect as ratification. Accession usually occurs after the treaty has entered into force. The Secretary-General of the United Nations, in his function as depositary, has also accepted accessions to some conventions before their entry into force. The conditions under which accession may occur and the procedure involved depend on the provisions of the treaty. A treaty might provide for the accession of all other states or for a limited and defined number of states. In the absence of such a provision, accession can only occur where the negotiating states were agreed or subsequently agree on it in the case of the state in question.
Quote from: W8taminute on September 29, 2022, 01:14:00 PM
I'm glad my nation has a space force, never mind the theme song is kind of baby'ish.
+1 to that!!!!
I have worked with Space Force on a few things. Very impressive folks. Some of them are unsung national treasures. The guys I worked with are really just Air Force Space Command guys who came into the office one day and had to change their email addresses to Space Force. So it's not like Space Force is really a "new" thing.
Space Force on Netfilx was really a lot of fun, shame it got cancelled.