The Operational Art of War IV

[mirth]

I do like the rounded corners of the counters.

[Crossroads]

Again, curious: what would you have expected to see in a 2017 hex and chits game? Honest question.

I want 4k 3d Hexes and Chits modeled on true, photo realistic terrain.

Cheers

[undercovergeek]

Got to side with toonces here

For a long wait for release only to see, essentially a 1980s game screenshots, what's the big wait for?

Again, curious: what would you have expected to see in a 2017 hex and chits game? Honest question.

Something more dynamic with the map - I'm not talking total warhammer

If the dev or publisher really want to convince me this isn't 2 or 3 in a box that's says 4, then show me some love before asking for my money

Because, and I know this is no measure of an update and new features, it looks EXACTLY like the last one I paid for

[mirth]

Because, and I know this is no measure of an update and new features, it looks EXACTLY like the last one I paid for

bingo

[SirAndrewD]

Something more dynamic with the map - I'm not talking total warhammer

If the dev or publisher really want to convince me this isn't 2 or 3 in a box that's says 4, then show me some love before asking for my money

Because, and I know this is no measure of an update and new features, it looks EXACTLY like the last one I paid for

I'd like to see something more dynamic as well, but it's easier said than done once you go to the Operational Level and above. 

I remember the old Three-Sixty game Patriot from the 90's.  It tried to do away with the typical hex and counter model, and it was pretty awful. 

Still, technology has come a long way.  I'm just not sure TOAOW is really the game series to be the standard bearer of a new approach to operational level wargaming.

[Crossroads]

I've always liked the maps and chits no issues with them, but the TOAW III user interface is so clunky I finally stopped going back to it. That's supposedly changed, I'm curious to see the new turn resolution mechanism for instance, it's remade to be easier to grasp according to a post at their Matrix forum.

[-budd-]

I never had a problem with the map, someone will mod it anyway, it's the turn/ rounds system I had trouble with. It was hard to get into. Looks like Larry will be doing an AAR soon, so we' ll get to see more.

[Tuna]

Got to side with toonces here

For a long wait for release only to see, essentially a 1980s game screenshots, what's the big wait for?

Again, curious: what would you have expected to see in a 2017 hex and chits game? Honest question.

Something more modern. Not sure what exactly that would look like, but those screenshots look pretty much like TOAW III. I know it's purely visual and there will be substantial changes under the hood, but the pics don't sell me on the idea that this is really a new game.

Having seen the screenshots, I'm less enthusiastic about the game than when I read the first announcement.

Agreed looks like TOAW III was modded.

[IronX]

I remember the old Three-Sixty game Patriot from the 90's.  It tried to do away with the typical hex and counter model, and it was pretty awful. 

One of the only wargames I ever returned to the store.

[mirth]

Three-Sixty Pacific... that first version of Harpoon haunts me to this day.

[bbmike]

Three-Sixty Pacific... that first version of Harpoon is one of the many things that haunts me to this day.

FTFY

[jomni]

The new UI has that War In The West look.

[RyanE]

Three-Sixty Pacific... that first version of Harpoon haunts me to this day.

Harpoon had been out for a while when Patriot was released. It was supposed to be 360's big follow up to Harpoon.  I still have the 5-1/4" disks in a box in storage.

[mirth]

Three-Sixty Pacific... that first version of Harpoon is one of the many things that haunts me to this day.

FTFY

Much better.

[solops]

I remember the old Three-Sixty game Patriot from the 90's.  It tried to do away with the typical hex and counter model, and it was pretty awful. 

One of the only wargames I ever returned to the store.

I was a beta tester on that one. We tried to tell them......I think the marketing suits must have demanded a release.