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Title: 144 Hz monitor worth it?
Post by: WallysWorld on November 27, 2019, 04:18:50 PM
I have a 6 year old 25" Asus LED monitor at 60 Hz and was wondering if it's worth replacing it with a slightly tinier 24.5" LED that runs at 144 Hz and is G-Sync compatible.

With my new i9-9900k with RTX 2070 Super desktop, am I missing out on anything by not going to a higher refresh monitor? I really don't want a 27" monitor as I only sit about 28-29 inches away from the screen.

Any opinions are greatly appreciated.

This is the monitor I am considering as it's $80 CAD off at my local computer store:  AOC G2590FX 25" Frameless Gaming Monitor (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07D377Q6D/ref=psdc_1292115011_t4_B078DFJ91X)
Title: Re: 144 Hz monitor worth it?
Post by: SirAndrewD on November 27, 2019, 04:27:47 PM
Short answer, yes.  At least in my 24 hour old opinion.

Just upgraded myself yesterday to a 144Hz 34" curved Ultrawide.   It's a huge improvement in quality of life over my older 27" 1080p.   

The immersion alone is incredible, and the frame rates are incredible. 

I've got virtually the same specs as you except a Ti over the Super, but both will likely perform similarly on the vast majority of games.
Title: Re: 144 Hz monitor worth it?
Post by: SirAndrewD on November 27, 2019, 10:57:55 PM
30 minutes in a P-38 in solo flight of IL2 and I can't ever go back to 16:9 1080p. 
Title: Re: 144 Hz monitor worth it?
Post by: Pete Dero on November 28, 2019, 04:59:02 AM
 I would prefer a larger monitor with a higher resolution over a smaller monitor with a high refresh rate.

I don't think the human eye can detect a difference above 60 HZ.  Maybe a 144 hz is worth it for gamers who are into competitive multiplayer but they will want a higher resolution than 1080p.
You will also need a GPU that can render those games at 144 fps (but your RTX 2070 at 1080p will have no problem with that).


@SirAndrewD : correct me if I'm wrong but the biggest improvement you have is from the larger monitor and less from the higher refresh rate.
Title: Re: 144 Hz monitor worth it?
Post by: Huw the Poo on November 28, 2019, 05:40:36 AM
I haven't really looked into it but I was under the impression 144Hz is worth it if you game at higher than 60fps.
Title: Re: 144 Hz monitor worth it?
Post by: Pete Dero on November 28, 2019, 08:11:23 AM
Quote from: Huw the Poo on November 28, 2019, 05:40:36 AM
I haven't really looked into it but I was under the impression 144Hz is worth it if you game at higher than 60fps.
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https://www.pcguide.com/tips/60hz-144hz-240hz-monitor/

If you've ever asked yourself, "Is a 144 Hz monitor worth it?" then the answer is probably yes. The smoother motion and generally more modern feature set of the 144 Hz option will be surely worth the minor extra investment.

Still I would prefer a 4k monitor at 60 hz over a 1080p at 144 hz.
Title: Re: 144 Hz monitor worth it?
Post by: Huw the Poo on November 28, 2019, 08:20:17 AM
Me too.  I doubt I'd notice the difference unless I saw a side-by-side comparison.  I'm one of those people who can't tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps unless it's demonstrated to me.
Title: Re: 144 Hz monitor worth it?
Post by: Pete Dero on November 28, 2019, 09:06:57 AM
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Title: Re: 144 Hz monitor worth it?
Post by: SirAndrewD on November 28, 2019, 12:39:40 PM
Quote from: Pete Dero on November 28, 2019, 04:59:02 AM

@SirAndrewD : correct me if I'm wrong but the biggest improvement you have is from the larger monitor and less from the higher refresh rate.

You're not wrong.   The move to 1440 21:9 with less than 1ms refresh and the monitor curve really have made the most difference. 

However, I'm not aware of many monitors in this class that don't exist in the 120-144 range. 

But yes, I should clarify that upgrading into the 21:9 low refresh world is really what's worth it, and it is. 
Title: Re: 144 Hz monitor worth it?
Post by: Con on November 28, 2019, 05:42:22 PM
I am interested in a new monitor. I currently have a 2 monitor 22inch setup. I am beginning to struggle with text rich games especially like command modern where there is a lot of info in text boxes. I wanted to know if a curved large monitor would help make text more legible larger especially as my eyes age.
Title: Re: 144 Hz monitor worth it?
Post by: SirAndrewD on November 28, 2019, 08:18:57 PM
I find it a lot easier on the eyes overall.

My eyes are pretty bad as well and I feel like I'm able to read more easily with extra real estate and the curve. 

The curve was a very brief adjustment but really prefer it now.  It just feels easier to look at, especially in games properly formatted for 21:9.
Title: Re: 144 Hz monitor worth it?
Post by: WallysWorld on November 29, 2019, 11:16:21 AM
Super thanks for the comments. I will consider the great advice given.
Title: Re: 144 Hz monitor worth it?
Post by: bobarossa on November 29, 2019, 12:26:42 PM
Bigger is not always better.  I bought a 32" monitor earlier this year and I think I would have been happier with a 27".  Depending on how far away from your eyesyou place the monitor, the edges of the monitor may be outside the sweet spot for your field of vision.  I play a mahjong (tile matching) game and I simply can't recognize the tiles on the edges of the monitor while looking at the middle of the screen.  I have also noticed it on some war/strategy games where it is annoying to find the info panel on the side is too far away from the middle.  I think it affects how quickly I get the mouse to the proper button because I can't 'see' it before I start moving the mouse.
Title: Re: 144 Hz monitor worth it?
Post by: SirAndrewD on November 29, 2019, 01:16:58 PM
Bob's right in that distance and the type of game you're playing is very important. 

With the larger monitor, the curve does make a difference in being more easily able to see the stretched ultrawide display. 

But, it's still big for strategy games, especially ones that put their info on the four corners.  I'm getting used to it, but it's not the ideal use for the monitor. 

Some strategy games might be better served to be played black boxed or windowed on a ultrawide in the 32-34 inch range. 

For sims and shooters though, it's amazing.  IL-2 Great Battles and Arma 3 are beyond stunning, and the extra FOV is both immersive and beneficial to the player, especially with head tracking.

You just have to consider what you really want to do.   I game across a lot of different genres so the ultrawide for me was the way to go.   

If you're strictly doing top down strategy, especially turn based or the like, and you sit close, it might not give you the benefit you're looking for.
Title: Re: 144 Hz monitor worth it?
Post by: JasonPratt on December 01, 2019, 10:36:41 AM
The obvious solution is to have two gaming rigs in your gaming room, one with a more immersive monitor for sims and shooters and things like that; one with an easier-to-read monitor for strategy games.

>:D

(I didn't say it was a FEASIBLE solution.)
Title: Re: 144 Hz monitor worth it?
Post by: Yskonyn on February 19, 2020, 07:45:22 AM
I have a 43" 60hz screen for sims and a 27" 144hz screen for shooters and high paced games.
It's definately an advantage to play those games on 144hz as long as your PC can pump out the high framerate.
As the video linked above shows, you actually see more within a slice of time on 144hz, which is especially useful in shooters.
I've had much less 'where the heck did that come from' moments in Battlefield since I switched to 144hz and my own gameplay has improves as well.
144hz is also more relaxing on my eyes than 60hz I find.

Still, if you mainly play strategy games I don't feel 144hz is necessary at all and I would invest in a good bigger size panel over refresh rate capability.